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		<title>By: Outside in - Involvements with reality &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gyres</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-69221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Outside in - Involvements with reality &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gyres]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] This excitable but nevertheless broadly convincing application of the Strauss &amp; Howe generational theory of historical cycles to recent news headlines is a reminder of the inevitability of story-telling. (Outside in has touched upon this particular tale before.) [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This excitable but nevertheless broadly convincing application of the Strauss &amp; Howe generational theory of historical cycles to recent news headlines is a reminder of the inevitability of story-telling. (Outside in has touched upon this particular tale before.) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Outside in - Involvements with reality &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote notes (#74)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-38649</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Outside in - Involvements with reality &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote notes (#74)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] from Fernandez here, and here. For those who can&#8217;t get enough of that &#8216;back to the 1930s&#8216; feeling there&#8217;s WRM (sensible but lost) and Paul Johnson (lost), but both picking up [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] from Fernandez here, and here. For those who can&#8217;t get enough of that &#8216;back to the 1930s&#8216; feeling there&#8217;s WRM (sensible but lost) and Paul Johnson (lost), but both picking up [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29232</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brin is attacking a straw-man (from my point of view, at least), but the tone of his post is quite calm. We&#039;re still at the &quot;let&#039;s find some really good reasons for not looking at this crazy / horrible stuff&quot; stage -- but that&#039;s OK. Best for us to chip people off the consensus discreetly, then discuss things with them in the shadowy depths of the reactosphere, rather than encouraging the illusion of open public debate (about the structurally-rigged system of public debate).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brin is attacking a straw-man (from my point of view, at least), but the tone of his post is quite calm. We&#8217;re still at the &#8220;let&#8217;s find some really good reasons for not looking at this crazy / horrible stuff&#8221; stage &#8212; but that&#8217;s OK. Best for us to chip people off the consensus discreetly, then discuss things with them in the shadowy depths of the reactosphere, rather than encouraging the illusion of open public debate (about the structurally-rigged system of public debate).</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Religious conservatives and libertarians are the prime targets for the NR appeal.  They are the most attuned to the fact that some things (largely orthogonal things respectively) are totally fscked up and getting worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religious conservatives and libertarians are the prime targets for the NR appeal.  They are the most attuned to the fact that some things (largely orthogonal things respectively) are totally fscked up and getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29230</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 04:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. What on earth would drive the Chinese to roll the dice like that? They gain from patience. 

Best contrary argument I&#039;ve come across is that the Obama-as-C-in-C bonus sets a three year adventure window. (I don&#039;t think even this is enough to provoke a reckless gamble.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. What on earth would drive the Chinese to roll the dice like that? They gain from patience. </p>
<p>Best contrary argument I&#8217;ve come across is that the Obama-as-C-in-C bonus sets a three year adventure window. (I don&#8217;t think even this is enough to provoke a reckless gamble.)</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China is a Asian Land Power, THE Asian land power.  It&#039;s interests are not in the Pacific.

Attack &lt;i&gt; with what ? &lt;/i&gt;  It&#039;s suicide for them to attack our Fleet and bases in the Pacific.

The saber rattling may indicate domestic problems, perhaps Admin knows.  Unless they&#039;ve got a secret fleet however, one that&#039;s caught up to us doing it for centuries..we are after all a Sea Power...

The end of the petro-dollar is more serious.  However I don&#039;t like the petro-dollar or the Empire it props up. Not because I give a damn about foreigners - kill them all or leave them alone - but the Empire over my people is quite Mad.  I would chafe but could live under a Sane Empire.

But that&#039;s not what they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is a Asian Land Power, THE Asian land power.  It&#8217;s interests are not in the Pacific.</p>
<p>Attack <i> with what ? </i>  It&#8217;s suicide for them to attack our Fleet and bases in the Pacific.</p>
<p>The saber rattling may indicate domestic problems, perhaps Admin knows.  Unless they&#8217;ve got a secret fleet however, one that&#8217;s caught up to us doing it for centuries..we are after all a Sea Power&#8230;</p>
<p>The end of the petro-dollar is more serious.  However I don&#8217;t like the petro-dollar or the Empire it props up. Not because I give a damn about foreigners &#8211; kill them all or leave them alone &#8211; but the Empire over my people is quite Mad.  I would chafe but could live under a Sane Empire.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not what they are.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NR/DEC is an attack.  

Forget Defense.   The Defense is the attack, you are pointing out their ridiculous contradictions, the horrid consequences, and the sum of neo-reaction is a preference for truth over lies.   

You defend by attacking.  It is an attack.  

Truth and Beauty to the Victors.   Win first, then worry about what next.  If what&#039;s next is a preference for truth over lies, beauty will eventually follow truth.   We may not live to see it, for we are all now living guilty of Shirking.  A mortal sin in original Islam you know, and the Man knew what he was doing.   Beauty is for our Daughters.   We must first stand for them.

Truth is for Men.

Beauty for Women.  

Be Men, and the Sun will shine again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NR/DEC is an attack.  </p>
<p>Forget Defense.   The Defense is the attack, you are pointing out their ridiculous contradictions, the horrid consequences, and the sum of neo-reaction is a preference for truth over lies.   </p>
<p>You defend by attacking.  It is an attack.  </p>
<p>Truth and Beauty to the Victors.   Win first, then worry about what next.  If what&#8217;s next is a preference for truth over lies, beauty will eventually follow truth.   We may not live to see it, for we are all now living guilty of Shirking.  A mortal sin in original Islam you know, and the Man knew what he was doing.   Beauty is for our Daughters.   We must first stand for them.</p>
<p>Truth is for Men.</p>
<p>Beauty for Women.  </p>
<p>Be Men, and the Sun will shine again.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s an inherent problem with criticism of NR.

For NR to be persuasive it has to criticize the mainstream. Government, science, art, everything.

How do you criticize a critique? With a defense of the status quo? If the status quo was defensible then NR wouldn&#039;t be persuasive at all.

I think the best critic of NR is someone like Megan McArdle. She writes about how you can tweak the status quo in a few ways here and there and get huge benefits. If she&#039;s right then the progressive structure isn&#039;t doomed and falling apart. If the tweaks she favors are impossible because of the structural flaws in progressivism then the NRs are right.

You&#039;re not going to successfully persuade anyone who was open to the NR critique of progressivism that actually things are pretty good. You can only hope to persuade them that things don&#039;t have to get worse and that progressives are capable of sanity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an inherent problem with criticism of NR.</p>
<p>For NR to be persuasive it has to criticize the mainstream. Government, science, art, everything.</p>
<p>How do you criticize a critique? With a defense of the status quo? If the status quo was defensible then NR wouldn&#8217;t be persuasive at all.</p>
<p>I think the best critic of NR is someone like Megan McArdle. She writes about how you can tweak the status quo in a few ways here and there and get huge benefits. If she&#8217;s right then the progressive structure isn&#8217;t doomed and falling apart. If the tweaks she favors are impossible because of the structural flaws in progressivism then the NRs are right.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to successfully persuade anyone who was open to the NR critique of progressivism that actually things are pretty good. You can only hope to persuade them that things don&#8217;t have to get worse and that progressives are capable of sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I&#039;ll take suicide bombers over that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;ll take suicide bombers over that.</p>
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		<title>By: Thales</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/1930-somethings/#comment-29219</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rub is that protracting the cycle means you get stuck with Nomads indefinitely.  Saudi Arabia is an example of this: suicide bombers. &lt;a href=&quot;http://youtu.be/BBAtAM7vtgc?t=68s&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is the American equivalent, and it would just go down from there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rub is that protracting the cycle means you get stuck with Nomads indefinitely.  Saudi Arabia is an example of this: suicide bombers. <a href="http://youtu.be/BBAtAM7vtgc?t=68s" rel="nofollow">This</a> is the American equivalent, and it would just go down from there.</p>
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