2014: A Prophecy

As has been said innumerable times before, any prophecy concerning outcomes that involve the ‘prophet’ as an agent are seriously suspect. For the (apparent) moment, such concerns are being pushed up the road into the future.

There they have already made themselves ‘at home’ — along with much else related to the general phenomenon of prediction (which is strictly indistinguishable from time travel, when incisively understood). Present knowledge of the future is an action of the future upon the present, but all that can wait, since — of course — it doesn’t need to.

For now, the Prophecy: 2014 is the year in which Neoreaction tears itself apart. This is not at all to say, the year in which it dies. On the contrary, it will end the year strengthened in ways it has not to this point envisaged, having carved out vast tracts of clarity, hardened itself through close intellectual combat, refined its methods of de-synthesis (or catabolism), and — most importantly of all — made schism an internal dynamic principle. What integrates Neoreaction by the end of the year will no longer be elective tenets (reflecting the more-or-less precarious ideological preferences of individuals) but conflict-toughened structures of objective micro-cultural cohesion, selected and sculpted by many months of ferocious storms.

The approximate contours of these impending ruptures will provide the content for the first 2014 Prognoses post (which is already overdue). In anticipation, it need only be noted: the Dark Enlightenment finds nothing external to itself that is hard enough to sharpen its claws. It has feasted on soft, fat, bleating lambs long enough. Thus the introverted ripping begins …

ADDED: Rigorous evidence for time travel still thin.

January 5, 2014admin 37 Comments »
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  • VXXC Says:

    Bad.Idea.

    Attack the enemy, train on him. Soft bleating lambs my ass. They have power , numbers – hordes even – money, vast resources. It’s not about the better ideas, they barely think. Islamic Praybruisers have more introspection and reflection than ProgTards.

    Neg. No enemies in DEC. Right out of Shining Path….nope…Satanic Verses. The fever will pass…

    Now maybe I’m missing some POV…?

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    admin Reply:

    It’s a prophecy, not a proposal.

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    VXXC Reply:

    OK.

    Internecine conflict is bad practice.

    And in conflict Small Wars [soft bleating sheep] is best practice prior to the main event.

    I wish I had Taleb handy right now….he puts Nietzsche in perspective.

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    VXXC Reply:

    Listen Muhameds fine.

    Just no Denethor.

    You’re probably right. Now there is a way this can happen where the enemy gets sucked into it..and ruined.

    Call it the Black Pill then.

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    Diogenes Reply:

    “Black Pill”

    I think you’re on to something.

    Lesser Bull Reply:

    A prophecy with a cheery gloss. The gloss is as convincing as cheery glosses usually are.

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    Kevin C. Reply:

    @VXXC:
    “Soft bleating lambs my ass. They have power , numbers – hordes even – money, vast resources.”

    Exactly; and overwhelmingly so. That’s why your position of “attack” is so misguided; they have the power, the numbers, the money, etc; enough to crush us all. In any sort of true confrontation, the Cathedral wins, period.

    @Admin:
    “On the contrary, it will end the year strengthened in ways it has not to this point envisaged, having carved out vast tracts of clarity, hardened itself through close intellectual combat, refined its methods of de-synthesis (or catabolism), and — most importantly of all — made schism an internal dynamic principle.”

    So what? Even if Neoreaction becomes stronger than it currently is (and that’s not hard, considering that a handful of people venting to a few like-minded others on minor blogs to no real end isn’t exactly high on the power scale), it will never be strong enough to stop the runaway, overwhelming avalanche that is the Modern Left. I still maintain that nothing less than the permanent, irreversible collapse of industrial civilization can stop it, and have yet to see any real evidence (i.e., not based on wishful thinking) to the contrary.

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    Lesser Bull Reply:

    I think I agree with you (except on the permanent, irreversible part), but so what? If that’s the alternative, any other course of action, no matter how unlikely, starts looking pretty reasonable.

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    Kevin C. Reply:

    If every piece of technology made after 1800 were to disappear, could we rebuild? Most certainly not, since all the energy resources that Eighteenth Century technology can tap with an EROEI greater than one have all long since been tapped out, along with most the mineral resources harvestable at that tech level. Change the cutoff date to 1850; same result. Even 1900, the result is likely the same: insufficient resources to build. And while these are artificial scenaros, the point is that it is quite clear that there exists a point of no return, a level of decay and capital loss beyond which recovery becomes impossible; the industrial revolution can only happen once per planet. To use a metaphor from commenter Grey in response to my own comment on Steve Sailer’s recent Fermi Paradox post, we picked the low-hanging fruit, and used much of it to make a ladder to reach the higher-hanging fruit, but now Progressivism is “eating the ladder”, to fuel their futile projects, leaving us to collapse, with no reachable fruit to build a new ladder.

    As I commented to Handle, technology is more easily lost than most think. Read “I, Pencil”. Our civilization is the opposite of Ragnarök proof. Between ever greater plundering of the productive to pay for Head Start × ∞, “diversity programs”, feeding (and drugging) the burgeoning dysgenic masses, etc., eventually taking funds from infrastructure maintenance; neo-Aztec Gaia worshippers attacking resource extraction, and demanding technological progress be reversed to a more “sustainable standard of living” (and killing much of the world population in the process); dysgenic idiocracy leading to too few people with the needed smarts to maintain modern high technology; warfare, especially the likelihood of nuclear warfare, biological warfare, and information-eradicating cyber-warfare as the Cathedral, endlessly doubling down, switches more from the “convert the heathen” mode to “burn the heretic mode” (these being the only modes of treatment the Cathedral has for non-believers, and why they will never allow exit: exit would allow the unbeliever to persist in unbelief, and that will forever be unacceptable: convert or die is the only choice that they will ever offer), it’s hard to see any way to avoid the headlong Progressive charge over that event horizon.

    So yes, permanent and irreversible.

    Igitur Reply:

    He didn’t say stronger. He said more (or barely) coherent. Or at least that’s my summation of

    by the end of the year will no longer be elective tenets (reflecting the more-or-less precarious ideological preferences of individuals) but conflict-toughened structures of objective micro-cultural cohesion, selected and sculpted by many months of ferocious storms.

    For all the talk of battle and bleating sheep, after all, the blood from a hypothetical wound unto one of them would drown the warrior and anyone in immediate vicinity — these are huge animals. I mean literally. Find a situation where Cathedralism is undisputedly in the wrong, other than for its vague morality of egalitarianism and demotic progress; then refute them, soundly and persuasively. What happens is that the mess of incoherent ethics and falsified truth beliefs still knocks you out. Ruins your career, drives you into the fringe, bans you from calling talk radio stations.

    Come on. We’re seeing these purges; all the time, reactosphere blogs relish in collecting them. I mean, martyrs only become useful to a political project too long after they’re dead, after the tactical situation has shifted entirely and a strategy of solidifying gains has to be put in place. And well, HBD already has James Watson the Nobel Prize Winner — you’re more useful to your cause alive.

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    Igitur Reply:

    What we need is a way to edit comments ex post posting.

    For the time being, I think everyone can discern where the quote was meant to end.

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  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    Are all these impoverished idealisations of ‘reality’ honing themselves, through an arena of contentious involutions, into a stuttering neo-wehrmacht, its angry gears barking out a comfort zone of ‘necessary’ imperatives: such a layer of narcotic nostalgia feeding identity addictions originating in a Hell(enic) mythological regime?

    Lord Ha(w)-Ha(w)?
    Ha(rsh) Ha (rsh)
    R(i)sh(i) R(i)sh(i)

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  • Obvious Conservative Is Obvious Says:

    “hardened itself through close intellectual combat”

    How so? “Do you even Moldbug bro?” is about the extent of it. My immediate beef with NRs is they slag conservatives all day every day and they get pissy when we return fire. NR is not infallible and there are holes from here to Carlyle’s grave in the narrative. For example: Christianity. How is this Asian Jewish sect which was forced upon Europeans on pain of death only 1000 years ago reactionary? If we still worshiped Wotan…

    Thede is to NR as Bread And Peace was to Bolsheviks: it’s pretty obvious most NR have contempt for their thede or at least a good 90% of it. Even Trotsky didn’t hate his own thede. Bad things happen when your starting point is misanthropy.

    “If anything, neoreaction is the opposite of progressivism”, said Moldbug, and who am I to argue? We conservatives were loudly opposing progressivism before a lot of NRs were even born. To criticize NR one has to be an NR, says one of these young NRs, and I agree; we conservatives are uniquely positioned to criticize NR, although at this point I find them so insufferable I will not bother.

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    admin Reply:

    Some concrete references would help — NR clearly looks a lot more consensual to you than it does to me.

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  • Alex Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9z798t9Ovg

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  • peppermint Says:

    If everything stays as it is, everything stays as it is.

    “Attacking” is a maudlin metaphor.

    The fault lines in neoreaction are between neoreaction, White supremacy, and Christian theocracy. Ironically, neoreaction is a much easier sell to progressives than White supremacy or Christian theocracy. They do understand the need for eugenics, and that a master race must be constructed; they can also be convinced to vaguely understand the need for some kind of state religion – how could they not? – but disagree that it is Catholicism.

    We do not need to convince x% of “the people”. “The people” do not rule.

    Mitt Romney knows that 47% of “the people” are tax consumers. He does not fully appreciate human biodiversity.

    Michael Bloomberg has shown some appreciation of human biodiversity. Does he know that the history of democracy is a history of tyranny and disaster?

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  • Igitur Says:

    Muscle has to tear apart to build up. A good image this is.

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  • Mai La Dreapta Says:

    As others have noted, Neoreaction becoming “stronger” does not at all mean that it becomes, in itself, a threat to the Cathedral. The path to victory, if it exists, is not by seizing power, but by convincing those that already have power to adopt our ideas. We won’t destroy the Cathedral. We’ll convert it.

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    VXXC Reply:

    Start with Pajama Boy Mai.

    You could convince him and his that it’s self interest not to be nihilistically destructive of all civilization from the very sexes and marriage up, even though there’s been lots of laughs and profits for about 25 years. That the firestorm will certainly consume them.

    However they have already thought of that.

    Mai this place is mostly Cathedral Converts. Try and remember Dostoyevsky’s Grand Inquisitor was somewhat autobiographical on his part. Then lets remember how it all ends – 1917 and the Bolsheviks.

    Their not going to destroy themselves. Your plan’s most wildly optimistic outcome of converting the Cathedral would allow it to take reaction’s and Dark Enlightenment’s strong but ruthless DNA into the memeplex and form a more perfect, solvent, and ruthless tyranny. Elysium Triumphant, with Billions in the Favelas.

    Yes actually Bloomberg does understand democracy and Dark Enlightenment, that’s why he made sure stop and frisk was saved. That’s why DeBlasio [The Tragedy of Dinkins repeats as Farce ] made Bratton the Head of the NYPD. Stop and Frisk [wogs] and the National Security State bugging the Dell Dataedge Server Blades aren’t conservative policies Y’all. They’re reactionary.

    You see the DNA co-option has already begun. It had before we existed. The worst elements of Reaction are already being incorporated into the DNA of the Cathedral. It’s called survival of the worst. The problem is the vast mass of humanity will be mired in degradation and a giant slum, rap music, pron, drugs galore. Reactions strong and ruthless elements are natural to man. But as they are Progs it shall all be sanctified and available only to at most 1-2% of the population. The rest of us will see our posterity in the Favelas.

    Oh and the overclass remains for the most part nihilistic scum like Pajama Boy. The Pornocracy stumbles on for a bit more and the entropy continues.

    That’s your converts Mai. And the rest of you. We’ll be converted, or rather absorbed with our distinctivness into the Borg Hive. Buying it time at the cost of a new Dark Age.

    Admin I am now getting it. Blood on!!

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    Saddam Hussein's Whirling Aluminium Tubes Reply:

    Yeah, that’s the thing about reactionaries. Reactionaries from different groups don’t automatically get along.

    I’m a reactionary, Mullah Omar is a reactionary. While our current activities in Afghanistan are retarded, it’s still entirely possible that a conflict between a hypothetical reactionary America and a reactionary Afghanistan might have emerged, as they pursued their reactionary religious goals.

    Israel and Hezbollah are both… kind of reactionary, at least relative to the West. They don’t get along.

    Spreading reactionary insights to those who run the Cathedral may make them better at governing. But it won’t necessarily or automatically change the fact that they hate a lot of their subjects. It might make them more brutal, as a few progressive moral qualms about the use of certain tactics are stripped away.

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    peppermint Reply:

    Really? Why would the aristos want that?

    And a darker question: if that is really the future that the aristos, fully cognizant of the available options, would choose for us, how is it that you know better?

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    Saddam Hussein's Whirling Aluminium Tubes Reply:

    Why would they want *what*? We can guess who they hate, but I don’t think we know for sure what exactly they’d do to those they hate, if they were free of the moral restraints imposed by their progressive religion.

    I’m just sayin’, there is nothing that says that they’d stop hating the groups they currently hate.

    “And a darker question: if that is really the future that the aristos, fully cognizant of the available options, would choose for us, how is it that you know better?”

    I don’t claim to know better than Cathedral elites. But I do have a different position than the Cathedral elites do. I’m a member of a group that the leaders of the Cathedral appear to hate, based on their actions. As such, I would trust myself, or a randomly selected member my group to make important decisions about our future, rather than the Cathedral elites that appear to hate us.

    Question: What do you get when you combine Communism and reactionary insight?

    Answer: Joseph Stalin, reactionary communist. He who stopped the left singularity, introduced reactionary reforms, won the war and saved the Russian people. Also the second biggest mass murderer in history.

    He liked to put entire ethnic groups in train cars and send them to Siberia.

    Question: What do you get when you combine Progressivism and reactionary insight?

    Answer: I don’t know, but I’m not sure I want to find out.

    VXXC Reply:

    I think I can choose a better future for me and mine then someone who hates me for everything I am.

    As to conflict between reactionaries: Europe in WW2.

    Notice which reactionaries won. And how they did it. Had they stayed pat in Europe and not attacked two huge Progressive powerhouses of industry and men outnumbering them many times over on all counts, they would remain in power now.

    Never mind right and wrong. I mean..never mind it. Ever. Never.

    One street fight would cure of such illusions forever. In the meantime take the advice.

    Mai La Dreapta Reply:

    These are the disadvantages of brevity. I don’t necessarily mean that we will convert the same Cathedral, by taking over the existing organs. Rather, I was alluding to the following truism: Any society needs a sacred order, and a sacred order needs a priesthood. The Cathedral you will always have with you. Thus, if a neoreactionary state ever exists, it will exist with a cathedral of its own which maintains and polices orthodoxy in some manner. After all, what do you think the actual stone-and-stained-glass CATHEDRALS were for, if not monuments to the ruling sacred order?

    I would just rather have a cathedral which is not aligned with Chaotic Evil.

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    Saddam Hussein's Whirling Aluminium Tubes Reply:

    Makes sense.

    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    Moldbug made an observation a while back that Fox News doesn’t tell people what to think, it tells them that they have permission to think what they already do think. What the Cathedral does is act as gatekeepers to social status. You have to parrot the party line in order to be admitted to The Good Little Boys and Girls Club. Our primary job is to make Club membership less attractive. Sour the milk.

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  • Igitur Says:

    @

    Allow me to expand this further.

    NR isn’t an intention, it’s a muscle — a muscle that has to rip, tear and build. It’s an exertion of power, not of philosophy. It’s not Body without Organs. Remains to be seen if it’s smooth or striated muscle, but the metaphor of ripping apart to grow stronger wants to go with striated, intention-bearing (but not intention-generating) biceps.

    Question is: I have biceps (scrawny ones) that are multipurpose, because I contain multitudes. How can NR be a muscle in service of the multitudes that congregate around it? What is its mechanical power here — its patois and brand recognition, its mutual support and fact/reality sharing, its emergent critical culture?

    (I’m overextending metaphor, I know)

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    fotrkd Reply:

    You’re impatient too! Did you see DianeB on the opening post of this blog? ‘I’m looking forward to reading it… but god, change the black…’ – well read first and you might understand the black impenetrability (as a feature not a bug) 🙂 Sorry – I’m not directly equating. NR (and xenosystems particularly) are deeply irritating vessels… my conclusion? Best just float along for a little while (and do what I say more than what I do).

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  • John Lerner Says:

    Are you suggesting we start persecuting the Christians? I wouldn’t recommend it – they get off on that.

    In my mind, neoreaction can’t schism because it is defined by taking a red pill. A red pill is a meme that tears a whole in the consensus vision of reality – after you take the red pill you start to think that almost everyone around you is crazy and that you have achieved a higher level of sanity than them.

    The soft underbelly of progressivism is quite unexotic – it is built on lies.

    Leave HBD links on a forum like hacker news and speak in a scientific tone and they lap it up. Truth has a fascination, and no truth is more delicious than the forbidden.

    As a movement, neoreaction is not defined by a belief system, but by the fact that all like to take the same drugs. Some groups of us take different subsets of drugs, but there is overlap knitting it all together. There is no need for a schism between the psychonauts, tweekers, and potheads. We are a junky subculture.

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  • KarmaKaiser Says:

    @John Lerner

    “In my mind, neoreaction can’t schism because it is defined by taking a red pill. ”

    Have you met, well, anyone?

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