the capacity for people to self determine is of course predicated on their capacities.

I’d love to hear more about your perspective on Whigs vs. Tories.

You can get it for free here its a pretty good read:

http://archive.org/details/revoltagainstciv00stoduoft

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” — Benjamin Franklin

You do have it wrong. I think mostly we’re a bunch of Aspies who see a looming catastrophe, but don’t agree on the details and don’t see a solution. We don’t want a piece of Barack Obama’s action.

I also think you’re mistaken about the numbers. You seem to be trying to practice “the politics of mobilization”. What I think we need is “the politics of persuasion.” I keep hearing about Obama’s popularity bottoming out, but it bottoms out above 40%, and there is no consensus among the opposition about what his replacement should do differently. Americans who self-identify as “conservative” may outnumber those who self-identify as “progressive” or “liberal”, but any politician who tells a group of “conservatives” that he wants to reform Social Security is likely to be crucified by them.

I also disagree with your claim that the US isn’t a democracy. I interpret your statement as meaning that my friends who voted for Obama have no moral responsibility for him being in power. I don’t accept that.

The rot you refer to is Human Nature. The Rule of Kings seems enlightened because it’s been gone for centuries.

Would you like to live in Saudi Arabia? That’s a typical Kingdom, except that it has shitloads of money.

No King could rule America without ridding it of Americans first. Ask the Progs, they’re trying.

So here is the Great Question: No serious man would willingly live as the slave of tyranny for long if there was any choice, certainly not anarcho-tyranny. So the question is: will you share power in a Constitutional or some other power sharing arrangement, or do you wish to be part of the Tyranny?

Most in Dark Enlightenment have made their choice, the Tyranny. However seeing the encroaching anarchy this tyranny means, wish to form a more perfect Tyranny.

Do correct me if I have it wrong.

Who promised anyone , anything?

“What if they just keep waiting for the right time, until they’re too old to do anything?”

What if they’re waiting for leadership that is lacking because all the natural leaders are on the Cathedral Payroll?

What if the the 2010 census doesn’t show the dystopia that seemingly must be surrendered to? Mind you I don’t give a damn about “Red State” vs Blue State. It’s a bit more fundamental.

What magic trick? It’s not magic.

And what, you’re helpless?

Giving it best guess they’re quite ready. However spectators shouldn’t criticize others for not playing up to the game the spectators want. The game being the most dangerous contact sport.

They certainly won’t restore it with elections. I think they have at least begun to realize this.

Again not personally, the fighting may or may not be done by fools, but the thinking is certainly done by cowards.