Be Warned

At least one of the 10,000 anonymice at 8chan definitely has my number:

Given that you linked the site, now would be a good time to drop some info.

‘Xeno’ obviously means from without; alien. Nick Land, author of Xenosystems, frequently compares capitalism to a kind of impersonal superintelligent force, a bit like some Lovecraftian intelligence stretching back from the future to manipulate petty humans en mass. And he longs for the antihuman genocide these intelligences, once ‘taken off’, will inflict.

It might sound crazy, but this is the clear landscape of his inner thought, if you go through the posts and study them. He constantly references Lovecraftian gods (think about it: Xenos, aliens, Xenosystems, alien-systems) and sometimes his attempts to darkly invoke them. He’s also into Kaballah and Eugenics. And he wants his cold lovecraftian capitalism to take root in some ‘exit’ nation like Singapore and implement a eugenic program under the guidance of a capitalistic-monarchical elite.

It should be clear to you by now that he’s an early-stage NWO stooge to get a movement of people begging for their own enslavement going. He is an ex-Marxist primarily inspired by a malignant Jew. He thinks he’s a super-clever occultist with his games and finds it funny laughing at all of you fools who think he actually cares about degeneracy and all the wrongs this big mean society has done to your little plebian selves.

If you knew Spengler, you’d be able to predict this. Winter phase. If you knew history, you’d be able to predict this: Jesuits being jesuitical, plebs being plebian. Agents causing, and the masses being cut up, re-crafted, and stuffed into new, tighter boxes.

Does anybody else out there expect the NWO to be this cool?

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Socialism is mental Ebola.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    +1

    Nitpicks: it’s not special among modern ideologies. They’re all Ebola.

    Reminder that NatSoc is still Soc.

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    Wen Shuang Reply:

    +1

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  • Nathan Turner Overdrive Says:

    >He’s also into Kaballah and Eugenics
    >1917+97
    >Not wanting a Moonchild
    0/10 would not pass through the Abyss with.

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    neovictorian23 Reply:

    We’re all super-clever occultists now! There is a storm on the horizon, yet it contains no water.

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  • Aeroguy Says:

    Further down in the comments
    “We all know Land wants to summon demon gods to eat us all.”
    What I find amusing about people’s reaction to Gnon is how far into a state of denial, anger, bargaining or depression they go regarding it. How they refuse to accept the insidious inevitability of the whole thing. My inner troll wants to know which part makes them angrier, the inevitability of getting eaten, or being confronted with someone not easily dismissed who thinks that’s wonderful.

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    Nathan Turner Overdrive Reply:

    Whistling past the graveyard is the oldest musical tradition of domesticated primates. I’ve seen it done here when its suggested industrial civilisation is a one-shot deal (Sure we could rebuild after a global collapse without plentiful fossil fuels – we go straight to solar/nukes! Intelligence is magic! Resources dont real!).

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    scientism Reply:

    “Intelligence Is Magic” would be a great title for a Yudkowsky “My Little Pony” fanfic.

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    Erebus Reply:

    Hah! Agreed.

    Off on a tangent: I’ll never understand why he so regularly publishes overwrought fan-fiction. Couldn’t somebody who prides himself on rational thinking find a better way, a more rational and optimized way, to publish and disseminate his writings? Surely he has to realize that fanfic is the least ‘credible’ and most base form of writing, and that virtually nobody outside of LW is ever going to take it seriously. (Unless that’s the point…!)

    As for the demon gods, gnon, and puerile comments, Thomas Ligotti once wrote that “most people learn to save themselves by artificially limiting the content of consciousness.” And, with that said, most people are deeply flawed and deeply stupid. It’s best not to expect them to come up with insights.

    John Reply:

    Speaking of Thomas Ligotti, I’m curious if admin is up on his writings, given their Lovecraftian bent? I am yet to read any of his stories, but his interviews are interesting, and The Conspiracy Against the Human Race presents an excellent case for the pessimistic mode of thought.

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    admin Reply:

    I’ve still to take the full plunge into Ligotti — though eager to do so. Only familiar with The Conspiracy Against the Human Race so far. This is the one I anticipate appreciating the most.

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    Richard D. James Reply:

    *Songs* is his best. That said, I’ll think you’ll find his tales of corporate horror, which appear in *Teatro Grottesco* and *My Work Is Not Yet Done,* to be particularly gratifying.

    Excerpt from “The Nightmare Network,” published in the latter collection: “Memo from the CEO: As the forces operating in today’s marketplace become more shadowy and incomprehensible we must recommit ourselves every second of every day to a ceaseless striving for that elusive dream which we all share and which none of us can remember, if it ever existed in the first place. And if anyone thinks that, as all the world races toward the same elusive dream, our competition isn’t fully prepared to gnaw off its own genitals to get to the promised land before us and keep it for themselves . . . think again.”

    I think I’d prefer to deal with the Cenobites from *Hellraiser* rather than the senior management team at The Nightmare Network/OneiriCon. Better the Lament Configuration than . . . the cubicle.

    ||||| Reply:

    Neither, it’s something else which doesn’t have a name, as far as I know (everything has a name these days, so one of you might know).

    Imagine you’re going down a hall and you notice something. A janitor. But it’s not the janitor you’re noticing, what you’re noticing is the fact you never notice them. That he is so insignificant to you that it was only by chance that somehow your perceptions netted his existence into your mind, that on any other day he would be nothing more than perceptual noise, at most a minor task of avoiding a shape in 3D navigation, something relegated for an ancient, cheap bureaucratic corner of your motor cortex. Now take this sensation, this relation X < Y and apply it to yourself, who would have this same experience but with you on the other role? Maybe some very wealthy man, wondering how many people are so unaware and below even tabulation. Now do it to him. And do it again. And again. And again, until you can't anymore.

    Maybe you'll stop with some person, somewhere, somewhen. Don't stop there, instead just consider the places, the rooms, the streets, elevators, halls where this event takes place, as if they had minds of their own, and how even whoever it was you stopped at is still somehow beneath these places, as this realization has probably taken place in them several times before. The places and then the city, then the cities, the states, the world, the star system, the galaxy, the cluster, supercluster… Everywhere and more than that. And keep doing it until your mind isn't capable of further abstraction. Don't try to be a mathematician and reason where this might end, do it like a machine and just apply it over and over and over. Incarnate the suicidal motion of some system decaying into it's steady state. After a while, only the rule and base matter remain. The code and the data, dancing.

    Then go back to the start and imagine communicating to the janitor how insignificant he would usually be to you. What's his reaction? How many would get offended or sad or dismiss it? How few would take it seriously, comprehend that and then sincerely just allow that understanding to be a part of themselves? The security to not have to shield oneself from that sickeningly mobile, transient, insultingly granular perspective smells like unhealth or covert hostility. Almost inhuman.

    That's what's unnerving in Gnon. The echo of the inexorable future as the universe passes above, through and beyond any of us, that if we had the option, if not for the carceral cells of our bodies, many would have the disposition to not be in their position. To have the status, the body, the mind, the consciousness, the purpose, the place of someone else. Of something else. Cheated out of significance or purpose with nothing to even complain to, and not only purposelessness but shackled unto mundane experience.

    Now I'm no philosopher, more a TCS/Math type, but is this sort of what Geworfenheit refers to? Never read him but it came to mind. Maybe what Ligotti is getting at too. I'm usually more into tech than text, so I'd guess I'm way off the mark.

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    an inanimate aluminum tube Reply:

    “What I find amusing about people’s reaction to Gnon is how far into a state of denial, anger, bargaining or depression they go regarding it. How they refuse to accept the insidious inevitability of the whole thing”

    Capitalism isn’t a complete reflection of the will of Gnon though. It has a very limited rule set. 4th Generation warfare is a more accurate and comprehensive model that encompasses a larger range of possibilities. (Or war in general, as long as you emphasize the part about “all available fronts: political, social, economic, military, etc.”) Capitalism is just a game of economic and social warfare that we play because some of us like the results.

    While the economic obsolescence of the hominids appears to be approaching rapidly, they still have an indefinite window of military, political and social usefulness. Reasonable people can disagree on the current effectiveness of drone warfare, but it doesn’t seem to have made hominids obsolete quite yet.

    If the hominids become militarily obsolete after they are already economically obsolete, presumably they’ll go into the recycling bin, unless they pull off some interesting, low percentage moves with those political and social pressures.

    But if the hominids recognize their precarious economic position while they still have military value it may be something else entirely that goes into the garbage.

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    Aeroguy Reply:

    “But if the hominids recognize their precarious economic position while they still have military value it may be something else entirely that goes into the garbage.”
    Your problem is that the hominids aren’t a single group, they’re competing groups and being the first one to turn luddite puts them at a distinct economic and military disadvantage to the other groups. The utility of social capital matter to the extent the masses are able to wield other forms of power (there’s a reason revolutions really took off after the invention of rifles). As for political power, machines are useful there too, what kind of psycopath in power would be the first to relinquish the tools that help make them powerful.

    The hominids have to cooperate for real, no defectors, the rules were always stacked, they never had a chance. Even if they did cooperate, the other singularity will destroy them.

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    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Sure the singularity will destroy the prole kids who were mean to you in school dear.

    Until the proles don’t show up for work and the power goes out.

    “We will automate it”_!!!

    Sure you will. Done this much, have you? Ever?

    Not drawn it. Done it. Made it work. Fixed it. When there’s no proles to fix it the lights go out. On everything.

    And we’ll beat these machines of yours if they ever exist. The drones being used are operated by humans for a reason.

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  • Nick B. Steves Says:

    Fortunately (for Land as well as others), many of Land’s most steadfast followers are stubbornly, perhaps congenitally, immune to this sort of stuff.

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    SanguineEmpiricist Reply:

    Agreed.

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    Dark Psy-Ops Reply:

    +2

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  • Stirner (@heresiologist) Says:

    The eldrich ones will destroy that thread soon.

    Here is an archived version of the thread, for posterity:
    https://archive.today/jDLrX

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  • John Says:

    The brilliance of this is that it starts out remarkably cogent then goes full retard with stunning rapidity. Perhaps a masterful troll, undoubtedly a wonderful example of Poe’s Law.

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  • Hanfeizi Says:

    “Off on a tangent: I’ll never understand why he so regularly publishes overwrought fan-fiction.”

    Check his institute’s 990s out. He’s managed to get a group of dolts to pay him $94,000 a year to write fanfic.

    Seems like a darn good gig to me.

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    admin Reply:

    That is going to require a period of careful processing (it’s in the “Wow, simply Wow!” category.) If EY has found a way to monetize writing this smoothly and effectively, his genius crown deserves some further polishing.

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    Postnietzschean Reply:

    Quite a few LW rationalists and effective altruists I’ve met told me that HPMoR was their entry point. Many EAs work in high-paying careers and donate a huge chunk of their salary to whichever cause they feel maximises global utility — the most popular is AMF, a mosquito-net charity, but a significant minority donate to MIRI.

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    Aeroguy Reply:

    If effective altruists are so rational why aren’t they paying the poor to get sterilized, oh wait, that right, because they’re not actually rational.

    I love you Ebola-Chan

    Postnietzschean Reply:

    Great snarking, I hear Gawker is hiring.

    Seriously, although my views on “rationalism” are similar to Moldbug’s — I think reason is cool but it wasn’t invented in the 1700s, you need to connect to an intellectual tradition to fully develop your mind — the EA crowd are not intellectual lightweights. Their tendency to work things out from first principles (for them, utilitarianism) means they have an ideology that is (at least somewhat) orthogonal to Cathedralism.

    Ex: Cathedralism sees the environment and “biodiversity” as sacred values. The problem with sacred values is you can’t make decisions about them. EAs can value the environment without seeing it as sacred, which lets you answer questions like “how much rainforest should Liberia chop down to grow their economy?”

    They are also immune to arguments like “we should focus on dismantling the hidden networks of oppression”, but this is more because they can’t understand them — complex cultural theories aren’t “empirical” in their eyes. (This is one of my biggest beefs with their brand of “rationalism”).

    The more LessWrong-y amongst them are quite open to ideas around alternative political forms, genetic engineering, etc. Unfortunately Conquest’s 2nd Law prevents them from going full red-pill and is making them more and more blue-pill by the day.

    scientism Reply:

    The Singularity Institute was founded 14 years ago and it took Yudkowsky many years to get it going. He had one major donor who bankrolled things early on. Back then, Yudkowsky was a fun kind of guy and the goal was to create a seed AI and to hell with the consequences, so it was a sexier prospect and he used to tell people that if they didn’t donate they were codemning billions to death since a late singularity would mean late immortality. Still, he had to beg for money frequently since he didn’t have a broad enough donor base. But I guess the key is that once you get these things going, you can change mission half-way through from saving the world from death to writing bad fanfic and still get paid.

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    Hanfeizi Reply:

    I’ve known Yudkowsky through various channels for about fourteen years now, so I know the history behind SIAI; he had some pretty promising work there at the beginning. The real question is:

    Does he honestly believe in what he is doing- that his “rationality propaganda” is more important than coding seed AI…

    …or did he realize his AI paradigms were a dead end and figure this was a way to keep the gravy train rolling?

    In his defense, I find his fanfic pretty good, at least as a non-fanfic reader, though HPMoR lost me about twenty chapters in. I just don’t have that kind of attention span.

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    scientism Reply:

    He does apparently do work on the mathematics of Friendliness, although it doesn’t seem like he’s very productive. I suppose a cynic would say “Friendliness” was a great way to deflect questions on when the seed AI will be finished. He now has people convinced that AI research should be delayed; it seems almost too perfect. But perhaps we can take him at his word (in the Sequences) and he genuinely thought he needed to find young mathematical prodigies to solve Friendliness.

    Personally I never made it past the first chapter of HPMoR. Maybe it gets better.

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  • Hanfeizi Says:

    “Does anybody else out there expect the NWO to be this cool?”

    If that’s what the NWO has planned, count me in. I never understood why people hated the Illuminati or NWO to begin with, though. I was always trying to figure out how to join.

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    neovictorian23 Reply:

    You’ve got to be asked; it ain’t like the Freemasons.

    Recall that Crowley spent 50 years signalling the Secret Chiefs and they never did Get in Touch with him, as far as we know. On the other hand, They’ve been known to tap obscure Navy Lieutenants (Woodward), undistinguished governors (Carter) and ambitious high school seniors (Clinton). Apparently, They have methods.

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    The archchristian perspective on these things has always been amusement (a quick read of early Psalms gives the sentiment nicely) but it is true that there are powerful people and secret correspondence.

    Those who bank their whole worldview on the existence / power (whether for or against) of these sorts of organizations may be correct from time to time, but they really haven’t quite gotten something fundamental about the nature of the world quite down. GNON and Lovecraft get the sentiment right.

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    Hanfeizi Reply:

    Indeed. What fascinates me about the groups most commonly singled out by conspiracy theorists, like the Freemasons and the Jews, is that they’re actually the opposite of what conspiracy theorists think they are- there are no elders of zion or supreme councils that are calling the shots. Instead, they’re perfect examples of Hayekian catallaxy; self-organizing memetic machines that propagate a structure and idea independent of a central command. Which makes them even more interesting than the conspiracy theorists give them credit for.

    neovictorian23 Reply:

    I don’t really believe there’s any They there–it’s just another name for the Cathedral, which is not a secret society. All US Presidents and Supreme Court Justices are have been Harvard/Yale (at least Law School) since 1988, but I don’t think that it’s because a Committee enforces it as a rule. Carroll Quigley describes Them in bits in Tragedy and Hope, which ought to be on the required reading list for Cathedral Studies.

    Nathan Turner Overdrive Reply:

    Nah, James Shelby Downard was bang on the money.

    http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix5/Dealey_Plaza_2003_Fountain_.JPG

    I LOVE YOU GAOTU-CHAN!

    Alex Reply:

    “This conjures up a familiar scenario of sinister bushy-browed characters with high I.Q.s and aquiline noses, hunched around a table in the dark of night (in a dank basement or a luxurious hideaway as the case may be) masterminding a world takeover. Operating as the head of an octopus with tentacles conveying secret directives to subsidiary plotters in every corner of the globe, they are able to manipulate public opinion, pulverize opposition, create crises. Anyone capable of furthering their nefarious plans may find himself catapulted overnight into a position of influence.

    “Such a view of conspiracy is indeed ridiculous. Although to some extent such machinations have been concocted here and there throughout history, an operation manifesting the cosmic intensity, historical continuity, extension, coordination and intelligence of the one deploying in our day defies human explanation. Probably the readiest clue to what is taking place lies in the original meaning of the word conspiracy, easily found in any Latin dictionary. There conspiratio is defined as ‘unison, harmony, agreement, union’, derived from the word’s basic meaning, which is simply ‘breathing together’.”

    – Hertz, Utopia: Nowhere — Now Here (On the Confrontation Between the Universal Republic and the Reign of Christ the King)

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  • Altadoon Says:

    My favorite part is that you don’t deny it; you invoke it further.

    May it come and may your new world order be awesome.

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    Bryce Laliberte Reply:

    I’ve always suspected he’s up to something that he’s not letting on, but then again he’s probably just obfuscatory by nature.

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  • That Rabbit Says:

    Cold lovecraftian capitalism. This made me think of the classic MST3K line: “Driven mad! … by low, low prices!”

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  • Fek Says:

    “Does anybody else out there expect the NWO to be this cool?” Only if the N stands for Nietzsche or nihilism.

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  • Dark Psy-Ops Says:

    Yeah well, I’d bet these lovecraftian outer-Gods at least have a taste for their own horror. I’d wager these Gods love themselves and each other too, with an inhuman love. What is the petty love of humans in comparison? A sickness? A hatred? Perhaps love’s genius lies in its silence, but of the secret in life’s cryptography even openness conceals, and horror need not lack levity.

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  • SGW Says:

    Deus Ex has caused me to expect the NWO to be something like that. A safe and prosperous world sounds good to me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjF2oy6qdHg

    Anyway, I came to this site in the hopes of being able to flaunt my gamer privilege and giving people some internet high fives. The silicon empire strikes back: http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/2/6886747/intel-buckles-to-anti-feminist-campaign-by-pulling-ads-from-gaming. I sure know from which company I’m buying my next processor.

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  • Hattori Says:

    He’s at it again

    https://8chan.co/pol/res/111533.html

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    admin Reply:

    Banging the Nazi-drum so hard probably isn’t helping him spread the message as much as he thinks.

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    Alex Reply:

    “Both are formerly associated with Austrian-libertarianism, a Rothschild funded doctrine which did much to contribute to the loosening of social controls and expansion of the power of international (Jewish) capital.”

    “… they see no issue with Jesuitical neo-Feudalism destroying the freedoms which Elizabeth’s defeat of the Spanish Armada secured for Northern Europe and thereby for its process of technological and scientific advancement.”

    : ß

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