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	<title>Comments on: Beyond the Face</title>
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		<title>By: drivebyidiocy</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-121118</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course this post prods into eliminitavist right-sellarsian dennet metzinger blind brain etc etc (which is fascinating but part of a much larger conversation).

If you are interested in modern western conceptions of faciality, Sloterdijk has a chapter on faciality in Bubbles which might be worth a read. I don&#039;t have the book on hand, but it traces from evolutionary snout —&gt; face emergence into the Christian facial iconography which dominated western art. I believe he then goes on to show how when Christ&#039;s hegemony of the face started falling apart, everyone, through their face, in a sense, became Christ. This tracks Moldbug&#039;s universalist protestantism as hyperchrist-manifest-image right into Sellars, and I will reread it in this light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course this post prods into eliminitavist right-sellarsian dennet metzinger blind brain etc etc (which is fascinating but part of a much larger conversation).</p>
<p>If you are interested in modern western conceptions of faciality, Sloterdijk has a chapter on faciality in Bubbles which might be worth a read. I don&#8217;t have the book on hand, but it traces from evolutionary snout —&gt; face emergence into the Christian facial iconography which dominated western art. I believe he then goes on to show how when Christ&#8217;s hegemony of the face started falling apart, everyone, through their face, in a sense, became Christ. This tracks Moldbug&#8217;s universalist protestantism as hyperchrist-manifest-image right into Sellars, and I will reread it in this light.</p>
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		<title>By: That Rabbit</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120995</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, the obsession with faces seems to be deeply rooted in our pre-hominid, even pre-brain plasticity past.  According to Daniel Dennett, many animals (and fish) evolved an acute sensitivity to vertical symmetry, a property rare in nature, with the prominent exception of another animal&#039;s face staring straight at you! (See RorschachRomanov&#039;s avatar.)

There&#039;s even a slight parallel to the &quot;over-attribution of agency to regularities&quot; of nature, in that an especially symmetrical plant can accidentally set off the &quot;orienting response&quot; (basically an all-brains-on-deck alert).  Dennet writes that false alarms are the price to be paid for &quot;a fast cheap, portable mechanism&quot;, and one that &quot;organisms, in their narcissism, pay willingly&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, the obsession with faces seems to be deeply rooted in our pre-hominid, even pre-brain plasticity past.  According to Daniel Dennett, many animals (and fish) evolved an acute sensitivity to vertical symmetry, a property rare in nature, with the prominent exception of another animal&#8217;s face staring straight at you! (See RorschachRomanov&#8217;s avatar.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s even a slight parallel to the &#8220;over-attribution of agency to regularities&#8221; of nature, in that an especially symmetrical plant can accidentally set off the &#8220;orienting response&#8221; (basically an all-brains-on-deck alert).  Dennet writes that false alarms are the price to be paid for &#8220;a fast cheap, portable mechanism&#8221;, and one that &#8220;organisms, in their narcissism, pay willingly&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: wen shuang</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wen shuang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 14:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Psy-Ops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our laughter is tragic above all, promising deeper tears...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our laughter is tragic above all, promising deeper tears&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Psy-Ops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Friday night horror soundtrack coming straight to you from Outside In, trend-setter in all things techno-commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwaEOyOw9tk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friday night horror soundtrack coming straight to you from Outside In, trend-setter in all things techno-commercial:</p>
<p><span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='640' height='390' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/fwaEOyOw9tk?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0' allowfullscreen='true'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://youtu.be/kQC5bQKPj6o]]></description>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120354</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Psy-Ops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate the internet...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the internet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Psy-Ops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Safer to hide unmasked in a masked affair… this should be &#039;go&#039; rather than &#039;hide&#039;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safer to hide unmasked in a masked affair… this should be &#8216;go&#8217; rather than &#8216;hide&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trustful surrender to Divine Providence does not come easily to your gnostic, it&#039;s true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trustful surrender to Divine Providence does not come easily to your gnostic, it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/beyond-the-face/#comment-120341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Psy-Ops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Superficial from out of profundity&#039;, Nietzsche said of the Greeks, who populated their tragic landscapes with masks. Our own times are profoundly superficial, and no less tragic, excepting the different masks we wear.  Under our face is the same fresh soil for maggots, beyond it hides fear and loathing, past that there&#039;s pain unending, and after an indefinite wait death as heaven&#039;s sweetest mandate. It could be a game at a masquerade to describe the masks that we have seen, so I will start with Zizek&#039;s perverts in the Cathedral who make of their face a closet, with a peak-hole to peer out when impotently aroused. They will tell you, these Zizekian faces, hideous and dumb, they only observe a display as impotent as themselves.  Zizek himself repulses me to a fault, but he is so blatantly obvious with things his own readers miss them completely, and instinctively worship him as a sublime objectified ideal of castration. Mmm... I&#039;ve said such cruel things to faces my own face shudders in comprehension, and is scared sensitive. Safer to hide unmasked in a masked affair...

Personally, I&#039;m an aesthetician, and think grammatical persons are a beautiful lie, the face a mask that gives too much away, and how much does gesture betray?  Ultimately, our most intimate thoughts are never shared by any but the faces closest to ours, and &#039;face&#039; is too distant a word.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Superficial from out of profundity&#8217;, Nietzsche said of the Greeks, who populated their tragic landscapes with masks. Our own times are profoundly superficial, and no less tragic, excepting the different masks we wear.  Under our face is the same fresh soil for maggots, beyond it hides fear and loathing, past that there&#8217;s pain unending, and after an indefinite wait death as heaven&#8217;s sweetest mandate. It could be a game at a masquerade to describe the masks that we have seen, so I will start with Zizek&#8217;s perverts in the Cathedral who make of their face a closet, with a peak-hole to peer out when impotently aroused. They will tell you, these Zizekian faces, hideous and dumb, they only observe a display as impotent as themselves.  Zizek himself repulses me to a fault, but he is so blatantly obvious with things his own readers miss them completely, and instinctively worship him as a sublime objectified ideal of castration. Mmm&#8230; I&#8217;ve said such cruel things to faces my own face shudders in comprehension, and is scared sensitive. Safer to hide unmasked in a masked affair&#8230;</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m an aesthetician, and think grammatical persons are a beautiful lie, the face a mask that gives too much away, and how much does gesture betray?  Ultimately, our most intimate thoughts are never shared by any but the faces closest to ours, and &#8216;face&#8217; is too distant a word.</p>
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