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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2013 13:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been thinking about this concept for a few days and have decided you have a point. Trying to spur action on the right via shock methods -- pushing the limits of lefty commentary on blogs and Slate-type websites -- does make strategic sense. That said, it seems like it would be tough to pull this off in reality because there is still so much residual residual guilt surrounding slavery, the Holocaust and displacement of Mexicans and American Indians. Check out the comments on this Huffpost article about the opening of the Mosque in Murfreesboro TN. There are so many cross-currents in the comments -- and there are 969 comments -- that I don&#039;t see how you could hope to make a dent with any sort of covert strategy. The themes are just too crazy, diverse and disjointed on both sides (and the average IQ of the commenters seems to barely scrape 100).  If anything, this problem just lends credence to the notion that America is a lost cause because it&#039;s not a true nation-state and most Americans don&#039;t view themselves as BEING part of a nation-state. So there is simply no defense against the progressive virus. There aren&#039;t enough white blood cells on hand to fight it. Kind of like leukemia or something.  

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/11/after-long-fight-opening-day_n_1768915.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this concept for a few days and have decided you have a point. Trying to spur action on the right via shock methods &#8212; pushing the limits of lefty commentary on blogs and Slate-type websites &#8212; does make strategic sense. That said, it seems like it would be tough to pull this off in reality because there is still so much residual residual guilt surrounding slavery, the Holocaust and displacement of Mexicans and American Indians. Check out the comments on this Huffpost article about the opening of the Mosque in Murfreesboro TN. There are so many cross-currents in the comments &#8212; and there are 969 comments &#8212; that I don&#8217;t see how you could hope to make a dent with any sort of covert strategy. The themes are just too crazy, diverse and disjointed on both sides (and the average IQ of the commenters seems to barely scrape 100).  If anything, this problem just lends credence to the notion that America is a lost cause because it&#8217;s not a true nation-state and most Americans don&#8217;t view themselves as BEING part of a nation-state. So there is simply no defense against the progressive virus. There aren&#8217;t enough white blood cells on hand to fight it. Kind of like leukemia or something.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/11/after-long-fight-opening-day_n_1768915.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/11/after-long-fight-opening-day_n_1768915.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Severen</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11660</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Severen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2013 13:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BTW,  &quot;Undead-Americans&quot; was soooooo antilifist yesterday. Today, the proper antilifist term is &quot;walkers&quot;. I&#039;d advise everyone to adopt this term. Failure to do so would be lifist. You don&#039;t have to be going around throwing out the ugly zed slur to be a lifist, ya know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW,  &#8220;Undead-Americans&#8221; was soooooo antilifist yesterday. Today, the proper antilifist term is &#8220;walkers&#8221;. I&#8217;d advise everyone to adopt this term. Failure to do so would be lifist. You don&#8217;t have to be going around throwing out the ugly zed slur to be a lifist, ya know.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 20:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got what I wanted.

Swipple is now a RACE.  

GAME ON.  Amen.

Fuck the Puritan meme.  Who has time for that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got what I wanted.</p>
<p>Swipple is now a RACE.  </p>
<p>GAME ON.  Amen.</p>
<p>Fuck the Puritan meme.  Who has time for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Thales</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11507</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 18:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL! New cardboard sign slogan: &quot;Wight Power!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! New cardboard sign slogan: &#8220;Wight Power!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Severen</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11501</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Severen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 17:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You’re oppressing the Undead-American!&quot;

Wight Privilege!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’re oppressing the Undead-American!&#8221;</p>
<p>Wight Privilege!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11494</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Plus, terms such as “swipple” are inappropriate and crude and will not be published.&quot; -- That&#039;s seriously hyper-sensitive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Plus, terms such as “swipple” are inappropriate and crude and will not be published.&#8221; &#8212; That&#8217;s seriously hyper-sensitive.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 14:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well apparently Swipple is racist now.  I&#039;ve arrived.  LOL LOL LOL 
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Hi, VXXC.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well apparently Swipple is racist now.  I&#8217;ve arrived.  LOL LOL LOL<br />
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<p>Hi, VXXC.</p>
<p>Thanks for your EconLog comment, quoted below. It has been withheld pending confirmation of your email address.<br />
In addition, your comment cannot be published for irrelevance.  There is no mention of &#8220;Mexicans&#8221; in the post or anywhere in the thread. So, your yelling, upper-case start of &#8220;Mexicans you say&#8221; is entirely irrelevant.  Plus, terms such as &#8220;swipple&#8221; are inappropriate and crude and will not be published. </p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11473</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another possibility is Finland. I was there last week and basically everyone there is Finnish (with 9% Swedes). Helsinki is beautiful. I saw like 2 muslims in 2 days. I know there are a few more but it hasn&#039;t hit critical mass.

Seems to me the big competitive disadvantage the US has is that it&#039;s not consciously a nation-state, so there is no intellectual argument for keeping people out. The Russians can say, &quot;We are RUSSIAN and this is RUSSIA. RUSSIANS FOR RUSSIA. And that has a certain sense to it. But Americans just can&#039;t pull that off anymore -- in part because the initial inhabitants were Mexican and Indian -- and because most black people in the US pre-date most white people. So the US is at a unique disadvantage when it comes to stopping immigration.

As Ed West pointed out in his book, it&#039;s almost like the last 70 years have been a mass delusion brought on by the Holocaust. European peoples were so guilt-ridden over the Holocaust that they couldn&#039;t see fit to protect the integrity of their own nation-states. That period is clearly drawing to a close. So the best places will be those that didn&#039;t see a huge mess of immigration during the delusional period. Finland is one example. ALL of Eastern Europe is pretty much untouched by heavy immigration, so that&#039;s another idea.

But I don&#039;t know ... this is largely conceptual. I still haven&#039;t been able to pull the trigger on permanently expat-ing from the US. Life is pretty easy there and the weather is nice. It&#039;s just the spiritual reality of it that depresses me 24/7.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another possibility is Finland. I was there last week and basically everyone there is Finnish (with 9% Swedes). Helsinki is beautiful. I saw like 2 muslims in 2 days. I know there are a few more but it hasn&#8217;t hit critical mass.</p>
<p>Seems to me the big competitive disadvantage the US has is that it&#8217;s not consciously a nation-state, so there is no intellectual argument for keeping people out. The Russians can say, &#8220;We are RUSSIAN and this is RUSSIA. RUSSIANS FOR RUSSIA. And that has a certain sense to it. But Americans just can&#8217;t pull that off anymore &#8212; in part because the initial inhabitants were Mexican and Indian &#8212; and because most black people in the US pre-date most white people. So the US is at a unique disadvantage when it comes to stopping immigration.</p>
<p>As Ed West pointed out in his book, it&#8217;s almost like the last 70 years have been a mass delusion brought on by the Holocaust. European peoples were so guilt-ridden over the Holocaust that they couldn&#8217;t see fit to protect the integrity of their own nation-states. That period is clearly drawing to a close. So the best places will be those that didn&#8217;t see a huge mess of immigration during the delusional period. Finland is one example. ALL of Eastern Europe is pretty much untouched by heavy immigration, so that&#8217;s another idea.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know &#8230; this is largely conceptual. I still haven&#8217;t been able to pull the trigger on permanently expat-ing from the US. Life is pretty easy there and the weather is nice. It&#8217;s just the spiritual reality of it that depresses me 24/7.</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11471</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see how hastening collapse via rampant immigration helps anything:

* The logical outcome is Elysium for 10% + semi-normality for 15% + twerking retardation for 75%. 
* That is DEPRESSING even if you are in the Elysium portion. It&#039;s not a fun way to live.
* We have ample historical examples of entire regions that have been decimated by importation of second-raters. Topping the list would be Greece and Southern Italy. And now of course France. Once those people come in, they&#039;re never leaving.

I have been in Tokyo for the last week. I cannot TELL you how nice it is to be in a country that has not &quot;caught the disease of progressivism.&quot; I believe it was Max above who used that formulation -- and it feels absolutely spot-on. This place is NOT progressive. It is like America 40 or 50 years ago. It feels incredibly normal. I am an INTJ and normally walk around all day in a judgmental rage. But here ... all my judgments are positive! There is no rage!

If the entire reactionary worldview is really an INTJ quirk (which one could argue it is) then isn&#039;t the easier path just for the INTJs just to GTFO while the getting is good? It seems to me the masses are not gonna be won over to any kind of change. And you can&#039;t control even a SMALL piece of real estate in the U.S. without a fairly broad spectrum of political support. Or else they pull a Waco on you. 
 
Here&#039;s another way to think about it: Women don&#039;t care about civilizational decline. Kids don&#039;t care. Extraverts don&#039;t care. SPs don&#039;t care (i.e. Sensing-Perceivers). Minorities don&#039;t care. So what does that leave you with? Maybe 4% of the population who doesn&#039;t like the new reality?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how hastening collapse via rampant immigration helps anything:</p>
<p>* The logical outcome is Elysium for 10% + semi-normality for 15% + twerking retardation for 75%.<br />
* That is DEPRESSING even if you are in the Elysium portion. It&#8217;s not a fun way to live.<br />
* We have ample historical examples of entire regions that have been decimated by importation of second-raters. Topping the list would be Greece and Southern Italy. And now of course France. Once those people come in, they&#8217;re never leaving.</p>
<p>I have been in Tokyo for the last week. I cannot TELL you how nice it is to be in a country that has not &#8220;caught the disease of progressivism.&#8221; I believe it was Max above who used that formulation &#8212; and it feels absolutely spot-on. This place is NOT progressive. It is like America 40 or 50 years ago. It feels incredibly normal. I am an INTJ and normally walk around all day in a judgmental rage. But here &#8230; all my judgments are positive! There is no rage!</p>
<p>If the entire reactionary worldview is really an INTJ quirk (which one could argue it is) then isn&#8217;t the easier path just for the INTJs just to GTFO while the getting is good? It seems to me the masses are not gonna be won over to any kind of change. And you can&#8217;t control even a SMALL piece of real estate in the U.S. without a fairly broad spectrum of political support. Or else they pull a Waco on you. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another way to think about it: Women don&#8217;t care about civilizational decline. Kids don&#8217;t care. Extraverts don&#8217;t care. SPs don&#8217;t care (i.e. Sensing-Perceivers). Minorities don&#8217;t care. So what does that leave you with? Maybe 4% of the population who doesn&#8217;t like the new reality?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/#comment-11450</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 04:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perry de Havilland over at Samizdata has also advocated hastening the collapse. &quot;Tedd&quot; argued the other side: &quot;[T]he argument against collectivism and progressivism needs to be won before the collapse happens. Once the system collapses, people will assess blame according to the political paradigm they already subscribe to....&quot;
http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-250/#comment-293812

What is the right rate at which to introduce learning experiences to students before administering a test?  If you give them the final exam on the first day of class, you may end up flunking a lot of them.  I would suspect a teacher who does this of having hidden motives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry de Havilland over at Samizdata has also advocated hastening the collapse. &#8220;Tedd&#8221; argued the other side: &#8220;[T]he argument against collectivism and progressivism needs to be won before the collapse happens. Once the system collapses, people will assess blame according to the political paradigm they already subscribe to&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-250/#comment-293812" rel="nofollow">http://www.samizdata.net/2013/02/samizdata-quote-of-the-day-250/#comment-293812</a></p>
<p>What is the right rate at which to introduce learning experiences to students before administering a test?  If you give them the final exam on the first day of class, you may end up flunking a lot of them.  I would suspect a teacher who does this of having hidden motives.</p>
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