Brexit Open Thread

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For discussion of UK independence, UK fragmentation, EU disintegration, Pan-secessionism, and catabolic geopolitics in general.

Here‘s Geert Wilders widening the conversation.

(Content coming later, probably in a subsequent post.)

ADDED: There’s a lot of gravy. One little drip. Bye: “Prime Minister David Cameron, who had led the campaign to keep Britain in the EU, said he would resign by October and left it to his successor to decide when to invoke Article 50, which triggers a departure from European Union.”

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It just keeps getting better:

ADDED: Open thread over at Briggs’ place. (“Britain Free. France, Texas Next?”)

June 24, 2016admin 145 Comments »
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  • anonyme Says:

    68% vote to leave in Rotherham

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 6:18 am Reply | Quote
  • D. Says:

    Let’s hope that Brexit prompts similar responses from other EU member-states, ultimately leading to the collapse of the European Union, which from the beginning has been designed to replace national institutions and identities with unitary, supranational ones. A wave of geopolitical creative destruction might entail short-term sacrifices but can only be beneficial in the long-term.

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    Reactionary Expat Reply:

    Prominent figures in several other European nations already stated that they wanted their own votes before this vote.

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    Erebus Reply:

    Exactly. Here’s hoping this comes to pass.

    I think that it shall. The EU was extremely poorly-managed, and is now too deeply unpopular to survive. From meddling in trifles and imposing utterly pointless regulations, to importing “refugees” beyond counting and giving them freedom of movement… No way that sort of thing lasts. No way it ends well.

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    Mark Reply:

    Here, here, D! My sentiments to a t.

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 6:23 am Reply | Quote
  • Johan Schmidt Says:

    The tone police and passivists need to take a long, hard look at themselves after this one.

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    admin Reply:

    [*Facepalm*]

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    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Is that the humble facepalm or the “you just don’t get it, we’re right and all of human history is wrong including last night”…facepalm?

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    Johan Schmidt Reply:

    [Vacuous abuse]

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    Anabolic Reply:

    [*raises paw*]

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    Mariani Reply:

    I lol’d

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 7:14 am Reply | Quote
  • foam Says:

    was a great shorting opportunity

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    Quint Essential Reply:

    Didn’t need to short, just bet on Brexit. Bookies must have been inconsolable.

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    Orthodox Reply:

    The bookies made money. The odds were there because some fools, probably trying to manipulate the financial markets, made a few huge bets and pushed the odds.

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    Orthodox Reply:

    They may not have been fools if they sold the Cox bounce, but if they held into Thursday night, they lost everything they gained.

    grey enlightenment Reply:

    buying SPP 500 puts on the night of the vote yielded much better returns than the 2-1 odds by bookies. A weekly S&P 500 1990 strike put contract that could have been purchased for $25 on Thursday , just as the polls closed, was worth $850 six hours later as the market began to plunge.

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 8:16 am Reply | Quote
  • Anon Says:

    I have to say this has been extremely entertaining, there’s nothing like watching Sky News as an American and seeing the similarities between the UK media and the US media. Did anyone catch this?

    “Every country is basically the same. Time to get back to Economics 101.”

    The horrific pall over the faces of those who have to go on television and scramble to put the pieces back together is priceless.

    By the way, congrats on Brexit.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Of course, Economics 101 tells us that the case for free trade is unilateral, & does not invoke imperialist-commie bureaucracy. Pseudo-free trade globalists (incl. cucks) are completely deranged liars.

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  • foam Says:

    most of my virtual and actual international social scene seems pretty emotional and upset about this.

    Good time to pause, and remember to chill

    https://youtu.be/yJMlaupGHTM

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 8:37 am Reply | Quote
  • cyborg_nomade Says:

    this is a historical day. let the domino effect begin.

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 9:19 am Reply | Quote
  • Aristocles Invictvs Says:

    Rule, Britannia! Albion has done it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2iLA3h_u60

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    holipopiloh Reply:

    The nostalgic undertow moving this decision is full of bitter-sweet irony. Britannia is dead for decades now. Chances are Scotland will also secede within Britain in the next couple of years, completely putting an end to that illusion.

    The biggest tumour on the face of Europe is France though, where Mandarinism is a national fetish. Since the Sun King, France has been a bit more into all things Oriental than its neighbours, including on manners of government (centralisation and bureaucratisation). Contrast with the federalism of the Germans (including the Austrians and the Dutch) and Italians. Must be something in the blood — even the french Swiss are a lot more given to centralisation than their compatriots (language is a natural proxy: compare the variety of dialects).

    The European Union does seem increasingly set for disintegration (and good riddance): it was designed by the French, after all.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Of course, many people (including Brits) have been saying that GB/UK are a millstone around the neck of England and has been such since their early days of Indian adventurism. British prosperity existed in spit of the Empire, UK or EU, not because of it.

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  • The Electric Philosopher Says:

    Well, if nothing else it’s the most interesting thing to happen in British politics in my lifetime (yes I’m nodding to that Chinese proverb that doesn’t actually exist). It’s difficult to see a scenario in which the right don’t make huge political capital out of this, but everything is going to rest on the economic outcomes of leaving the EU, specifically finding as many new trade deals as possible before the inevitable blow of losing full access to the single market really hits hard.

    It’s not inconceivable that the left could see a powerful resurgence if the Tories screw up the endgame, though I can’t see Corbyn winning any elections.

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    Quint Essential Reply:

    It’s a loss for Labour, they aren’t going anywhere soon. Corbyn might be Eurosceptic, but the rest of Labour love Brussels.

    I’d be looking at how quickly it takes Boris to take over from Cameron, or how long it takes Cam to call a leadership election.

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    The Electric Philosopher Reply:

    The next most interesting thing to come up is whether or not there will be a general election. A friend has pointed out that it seems unlikely a Tory would take the risk of ending up another Gordon Brown, with only a very limited claim to a democratic mandate. This being said, Johnson could easily argue that vote acted as a kind of proxy vote in favour of the people behind Vote Leave itself.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    English exports to Europe are overstated, and as I said above the case for free trade is unilateral. ‘Trade deals’ are just bureaucratese pseudo-economics, unless they’re diplomacy that accomplishes NOTHING but tariff reduction on both sides. NAFTA etc. can eat Ricardo’s cock.

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    Posted on June 24th, 2016 at 9:21 am Reply | Quote
  • anonyme Says:

    Marion Le Pen is asking for a Frexit on Twitter now.

    Marion Le Pen (Marion_M_Le_Pen)

    Du #Brexit au #Frexit : Il est désormais temps d’importer la démocratie dans notre pays. Les Français doivent avoir le droit de choisir !

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    The French hate the EU more than the Britbongs. If only they’d let southern France secede from the Communist parisian empire, hypocritical bunch of bastards they are.

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  • John Hannon Says:

    Best possible replacement for Cameron now has got to be this fine gentleman –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0rj2DWwFBU

    Even though he spells his name wrong.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    In terms of existing political parties/figures UKIP & the BNP (despite the latters’ protectionist shit) are pretty exclusively the only decent parties/politicians in all of Britain.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    “If you strike me down, you will only make me more powerful than you can imagine.”

    “The South will rise again!”

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Sadly the old quasi-aristocratic culture of the Old South is dead, & many of its citizens are Azteks, negroes and dole addicts. I’m an Arizonan myself, the ‘Confederacy’ pretty much sucked despite the Union being an evil empire that deserved total annihilation.

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  • Dividualist Says:

    Talking power to truth is at full force at Reddit. How the EU will punish the UK, how the economy is forever ruined, how Scotland will get indie and Ireland unified, the whole mood is that the UK pissed off the true rulers of the world and the hunting season is on. And of course the typicaly young signallers apologizing for their country, in a very transparent “my self esteem would not survive if people would think I am one of these unfashionable simpletons” way. Absolutely disgusting and hopefully will help triggering further secessions.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    It’s actually the UK globalists that are more upset than the Eurocrats.

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  • Laguna Beach Fogey Says:

    We need a solution to the Scottish Problem.

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    michael Reply:

    disintegration forces locales to feel the reality of [dusky cousin] raising rather than pass on on the cost to entities that can print money. Scotland raises white niggers as well let then secede and get involved with reality. The other advantage is it will demonstrate to americans the idea of intra national secession Texit

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    Orthodox Reply:

    Centuries of British abuse worked wonders.

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    michael Reply:

    LOL
    fee fie foe fum I smell the blood of an englishmen be he alive or be he dead Ill grind his bones to make my bread – was the nursery rhyme i was raised on but i think it was the socialism lately that done em in.

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  • Laguna Beach Fogey Says:

    The Brexit vote, in the wake of the assassination of Saint Jo Cox, is a huge rebuke to those in Alt-Right and NRx who piously condemn direct political action.

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    Ahote Reply:

    Not really. Brexit happened in spite of, not because of, the assassination. Seems the establishment underestimated the discontent of the English. London rain probably helped too.

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    admin Reply:

    Why not take it as a vindication of popular democracy, if that’s the way your thoughts are running?

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    michael Reply:

    That might be synthetic interpretation, Id bet the vote correlates well with ethnic loyalty ,even as democracy vs new world order which is a more ethnic.I really think you have to find way to integrate your cyber tribalism with the reality of genetic tribalism. and in fairness the blood and soil reactionaries are going to have to integrate the realities of techxit into nationalism.Ans it needs to be done without recourse to things that wont happen for 50 years because this might be the worst time in history to predict what even ten years will bring.For the life of me I cant see why you and others cant concede the reality that homogeneous European nations are the most practical foundation for civilizations capable of facing threats and the future. It seems you think its impossible to dislodge the commies and niggers so the only hope is techxit. Techxit not only is a long long way off in any meaningful way but its impetus is profit which is commie nigger bait any techxit will be dealt with. On the other hand Ethnexit is the most powerful force on the planet is already mostly in place all that needs to happen is immigration laws followed to the letter. Now ethnexit might not help africans but it certainly eliminates the white mans burden. The cost of diversity is staggering its orders of magnitude more than the trillion a year the us spends on welfare we could have moved mars and terraformed it for what niggers have cost. a homogeneous civilization is infinitely more stable and I might add pleasant. This insistence that ethnexit must be socialist is absurd.All that is necessary is civilization is balanced with capitalism. even if you could create a techxit and defend it no one wants it its not involvement with biological reality its another elitist experiment in social engineering which will produce all sorts of unintended consequences the hubris is staggering. No ones denying technology in the future will present challenges to humans or that it isnt smart to think about as best we can how it might play out the only chance of getting anywhere remotely close to what will happen is to use initial conditions we know. The critique of modernity is essentially ancient dna confronting future tech. The short answer is we are not evolved for it. maybe one day crispr fixes that. meantime the lesson is stop trying to make the man fit the tech make the tech fit the man. Give the nazis their due “white nations” are as stable a platform to confront the future. Democracy and socialism are as inbred as capitalism and hierarchy find ways to make them work denying them is as silly as progs denying ethnic difference. I see zero evidence of white mobs wanting socialism unless manipulated into it by elites communists or left no choice by civilization destroying crony capitalists mostly an alliance of both these days. The cathedral demonstrate you can have democracy and still do whatever the fuck elites want and make the people think they asked for it.How much better would the cathedral work if reactionaries were behind it. Socialistic tendencies have to be faced square euros will not tolerate even niggers suffering social support sytems need to be market based and euro ethno states can easily make this work. The advantage of euro ethno states is a narrow gap this must be maintained as part of the future strategy;this idea of a galts gulch of elites is not sustainable on so many different levels its laughable. We need the proles as much as they need us but it is our responsibility to figure out how to keep the gap narrow into the future. Capitalism must be kept from undermining the culture and people that support it. Its beauty is in its efficiency at serving us not as its own sake.That doesnt mean socialism but probably something like cost analysis of a corporations use of a nations infrastructure defense systems courts markets R/D institutions etc and that negotiated into the deal Im guessing it might be worth looking at offering businesses a choice between intra and extra national status. If a nation were a patch it would negotiate with contractors and traders like this. Because as is endlessly pointed out a patch owner is in it for the long haul ending up with short term profits but a population full of niggers basic wage couch potatoes and all the plants used to manufacture military and strategic hardware located outside your borders would be well stupid no matter what a great deal you got on your autos and computers youre a shell that cant defend yourself from without or the mobs that will inevitable form within when its gets bad.

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    Seth Largo Reply:

    For you.

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    My problem regarding bio-tribalism is that it causes people to be loyal to/sympathize/tone police based on the feelings of the inferior members of their tribe. Loyalty to the underclass is disgusting, be they niggers or antifa.

    vxxc2014 Reply:

    It was an action of popular democracy.

    It was a fucking vote. A fucking direct referendum.

    Whatever was achieved it was achieved by direct democracy.

    It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t fit your model Dr. Green-Span-Land.

    It damn sure happened.

    There’s outside and then there’s Baghdad Bob Sir.

    Look out the window Bob. Something is happening Mr. Jones.

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    anon Reply:

    Baghdad Bob really is a good metaphor for people who say that BREXIT changes nothing.

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  • Laguna Beach Fogey Says:

    Violence works.

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    admin Reply:

    Sure, that’s why Somalia, the DRC, and Syria command human civilization.

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    michael Reply:

    You forgot the Mongolian Roman Ottoman British …………. and American empires

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    michael Reply:

    This violence must always be absent of intelligence meme, is as specious as ethno nationalism must always be absent of capitalism meme.

    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Of course violence works.

    How do you think the Cathedral got power?

    As for Somalia, Syria and whoever the DRC is…They’ve managed under sustained Cathedral assault to hold their patch Dear Admin. They did it by work – the violent kind.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Those places are filled by stupid [blacks], blaming it on violence or decentralization could be premature.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    lol novv you’re censoring the vvord [dusky cousin], [gratuitous curse word + colon delvers].

    admin Reply:

    You’re not an idiot. Why the stubborn determination to sound like a vulgar thug? (It’s screwing up my blog, and that isn’t acceptable.)

    General principle: If the comment you’re wanting to make is gutter-rage garbage, take it to the chans.

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Your fainting violet response to curse vvords may make sense to a bunch of leftist programmer jevvs on NPR that vvant to talk in lovv voices because nobody can be too particular, but calling people names that indicate an actual contempt and convey it vvell is something that non-homosexuals not raised by communists don’t actually get offended by. Your academician’s sense of propriety is […].

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    If Homo-Africanus doesn’t vvant to get called a nigger he ought to learn to speak and behave, & if Jevvs don’t vvant to be called Kikes they ought to stop acting like Bolshevik traitors. Or they can leave, if it bothers them so much. In any case I’m happy to offend anyone, vvhite or othervvise, that gets scared by muhHateSpeech.

    admin Reply:

    Last time I’m tolerating this rhetoric, because you’re — roughly — making a point.

    This is my blog. It’s for intelligent discussion of dissident-right-related topics, not for blowing-off steam. You sound like an angry thug, which would be okay if that didn’t drive away people who would be saying far more interesting things. So it’s not negotiable. Whine all you like, but if you can’t moderate your tone, you’re going to be regularly edited, deleted, and — I guess — ultimately banned. Otherwise this blog turns into another tedious chan sewer — no thanks.

    Look back at the kind of comments we were getting here consistently a couple of years ago, and weep. The Alt-Right is basically a low-brow protest movement, and it degrades everything it touches.

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I vvasn’t sure before but I’m beginning to suspect Michael & others are correct: you are still a liberal yankee and as much as you LARP othervvise it comes out clearly vvhenever someone actually pushes the boundaries, you get triggered just like any Democrat cat lady.

    admin Reply:

    It’s simple. Thug-life gutter rhetoric drives away smart, civilized people. If forced to choose, you’re the ones who get chopped. Call that “yankee […]” all you like. I’m not interested in hosting a convention for repetitive, angry, potty-mouthed people. There are plenty of others places to go for that.

    admin Reply:

    Are you deliberately refusing to get the point here?

    You’re driving away people I don’t want driven away. So […] you [..].

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Again, being scared off by ethnic slurs and curse vvords is retarded. I’m certainly inclined to call pinkos of any ilk by the most derogatory name that fits, but you can’t seem to understand that there is an entire universe of ‘intelligent people’ that don’t share your aversion to strong language & the potential for violence. As I said, you are a yankee, you obviouisly don’t knovv anyone that isn’t raised to your particular signaling. I knovv plenty of people vvell over 130 IQ that aren’t afraid to mock Communist Yids, and as I mentioned elsevvhere this is pretty standard for German Reformation or 19th century politics – you yankees use ‘polite speech’ as a form of status signalling, but that’s not true of many other cultures. Frankly, as I cannot stand Yankees (as a rule) I rather hope to offend and alienate them, I’d deport them if I could.

    admin Reply:

    There’s no Internet forum in which your preferred tone prevails that doesn’t pay a massive IQ tax for it.

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I’m not even complaining about the ‘censorship’, my point is that vvhat you & many of the UMC nerds that make up NRx consider ‘polite speech’ is actually an inoffensive academician’s tone that many perfectly intelligent people – from Texan ranchers to Spanish aristocrats – vvould consisder effeminate and priggish. I am not bourgeousie, I am not yankee, and I am not inclined to indulge their peculiarities.

    admin Reply:

    If you’re not inclined to indulge me, even slightly, then continual friction is inevitable. My house, my rules.

    admin Reply:

    I get that ‘your’ folks think incessant cursing like a mean drunk is cool. There are any number of places you can do that without getting harassed for it. This isn’t one of them.

    “Tone policing” is essential to civilization.

    Mountaingazer Reply:

    Violence works? Some crazed pos brutally murders an unarmed woman and you think that “works”? Are you a troll attempting to besmirch the Brexit vote? The vote had nothing to do with the murder (in spite of really) and to attempt to connect them is (in reality) to urinate on the victory, decency, and what remains of Christian civilization. Call it signalling, or whatnot, but only gutternsipe speak highly of murder (and of a woman!) as noble.

    Your attitude and that of Michael, as unhinged as he is ungrammatical, if you’re even both real, isn’t what it will take to carve out decent places in the world and maintain order and peace where they still exist. Mouthing blood, blood, blood from the couch, like crazed, drunken monkeys, is the antithesis of civilization. Crucify! Crucify! Is that it?

    Yeah, it comes down to neo-pagan […] vs what remains and can be rebuilt of civilization.
    Not only are there enemies to the right, there are couch-loads of dumbasses. The Chinese, a revitalized Christedom or even the robots will have no patience for basement-dwelling, would-be tribalists. You are showing your true Father, who was a murderer and liar from the beginning. Logos, not Chaos, is the true God of all who build and maintain, whether they acknowledge Him or not.

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    michael Reply:

    You think Im unhinged and shocking read moldbug

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    michael Reply:

    Dude VIOLENCE IS THE FOUNDATION OF CIVILIZATION VIOLENCE SOLVES EVERYTHING WITHOUT VIOLENCE THERE IS ONLY DISORDER all the sentimental faggotry you hold dear is made possible by violence can only be maintained through violence and will always be threatened by violence. GNON IS VIOLENCE if you can not grok this simple horror you are in the wrong place

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    Mountaingazer Reply:

    Dude, you’re not Gnon.

    Nor do you hold the sword, regardless how much ammo you got stored up.

    The sword is used on scum that murder unarmed women in the streets, not on unarmed women.

    There is a world of difference between an agent of order sniping roaming rape gangs and a guy with a scoped rifle blowing away people at a sporting event for Allah or muh people. If you can’t tell the difference between the two, that’s too bad.

    Your invoking of Gnon is amusing. Low IQ cretins who murder women in the streets aren’t going anywhere. Gnon is seeing to that. Nor do tribal blood-soaked rages end up, in Gnon’s scheme of things, anywhere but a dead-end Somalia.

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    michael Reply:

    your hysterical white knighting of that commie […] on a reactionary blog is amusing.your victorian values might be more appreciated elsewhere this is the heart of darkness

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    This unarmed female represented an evil communist bureaucracy. Can’t Knight for Reds, this bitch should’ve been deported even if killing her didn’t represent proper judicial procedure.

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    Mountaingazer Reply:

    Reactionary. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Here’s a hint: reactionary does not equal pretend tribalists with all-against-all fantasies.

    You mention Marxism. Something that Marx and Gnon have in common? Neither has much use for the lumpenproletariat.

    The heart of darkness? Ah, yes, Pandemonium’s own blogosphere. By the way, even Satan in PL is bright enough to know that violence is not always the answer. Give me a break. Rage-porn is what you’re up to, and as with any porn, you got to keep cranking it up to get an effect. What’s after unarmed women in the street? It’s like reading an overheated SJW.

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    michael Reply:

    neo reaction is about reality, old reaction is about throne and alter a more sophisticated way of saying blood and sand. You are about what NRO thinks of as conservatism which is conserving 1980s liberalism. you keep trying to lay some nat soc on me im neither just a realist that recognizes enemies even if they wear skirts. You have spent the thread defending commie cunts and christian democrats ironically using urination as a metaphor, We are actually probably of the same mind that it would be easier to salvage what we can of the old order than admins idea of eliminating mankind in favor of machines or some nonsense. He at least gets when it comes to power and survival its not going to be marquis of queensbury rules. I save my sentimental relapses for my own people the victims of rotherham,the whites murdered by niggers, and i certainly have no illusiansd the brexit vote was was considered opinion by informed true conservatives it was a chimpout by trumpsters but if thats what it too to move the ball so be it if murdering JC helped great more where she came from. The reality there are years not decades before the entire western world is overun by and run by niggers its mostly is already. They are not going to collapse and davos call mencius it will be Johannesburg time, admin thinks we have time to invent a secret software hes deranged. You come up with a peaceful transition ill help ill vote trump even but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to know only blood is going to stop this train. Blood now and we have a shot at winning and less will die blood in twenty years and its all over. You still think the heritage foundation will convince people admin thinks tech, i have though both those things but the wench is dead and besides that was another country

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    Mountaingazer Reply:

    You say, “Only blood will stop this train.” Blood isn’t going to stop the Cathedral. It is immune, a morphing entity that absorbs and commodifies enemies. A coup or rebellion will never work; it’s Cathedral all the way down. The Cathedral has no central organ that can be struck. It’s everywhere and nowhere.
    And any attempt would bring a David Koresh response. The United States government is not going anywhere, short of a civilization-ending natural black swan event.

    Still, there are decent lives to be carved out, families and churches to be built and maintained, and internal exits that can be had.

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    michael Reply:

    You thought that the cathedral is not only militarily undefeatable and also MMs argument that its a hydra is not completely unreasonable Im not proposing rural miltias should start attacking it today[ though i certainly enjoy their little pranks].I am suggesting some other things.
    There isnt time to wait for some miracle technology that may or may not have the result hoped.which is not to say DENRXAR should not think about how tech will impact culture through a HBD lens. For me the groundbreaking idea of DENRXAR is the irrefutability of HBD yes race gender but also the limitations of social engineering. European civilization begins to strain as new technology and its repercussions confront 10,000 year old DNA. I think an argument can be made that europeans are able to adapt but multicultural societies can not, although even monocultural quasi human civilizations such as african might if left alone to find gene specific adaptations.Lands Ideas strike me as more elitist social engineering of unproven social models basically a futurist leftism. Its tempting because we conservatives understand the importance of intelligence and hierarchy, but its flawed because its chimps all the way up.the same problems will simply be writ large. Humans need civilizations that recognize the realities of legacy DNA, until we can design matching DNA and cultures. Humans have forked into genetic types and coevolved cultures specific to and acting on those types. Progressives not only ignored the differences of type [race] and they ignored the limitations of our type [traits] both of which they could have learned from reading old books. But also were unaware of how humans have shaped their DNA through synthetic environment [culture] in a genetic specific feedback loop. The implication of this is that genetic specific cultures are neither fungible nor transferable. Not only does that doom multiculturalism feminism and progressivism but ought to give lands thinking pause.He can have his octopus face civilization when he can design the entire genome in confidence. And you what Im cool with that from my perspective they will be just as european as i and the neanderthal i like to pretend are also my ancestors.
    But that is a problem for land great great grandchildren.
    Today we are on the brink of extinction. The existential threat of third world invasion of western lands with the collusion of globalist/capcoms is nothing like the collapse we all feared twenty years ago from the weight of socialisms folly. we have watched formerly socialist countries reboot in the space of 20 years. The US is now only 60% white run by a anti white anti christian anti american avowed marxist mixed race child of two communist and communist grandparents mentored and possiblly actually fathered by a second black communist father and finished off as the protege of the founders of the weather underground, churched in a black supremacy congregation, and muslim schools. This is actually the president of the united states ruler of the world.Puppet or not this is how deep forces that wish the total destruction of the european race have reached. Can you doubt that is their goal after the past several years of white privilege and immigration invasions, if you can still doubt that stop reading because to think people as intelligent as cathedral elites are can beleive that after they reduce the european diaspora to oppressed minority status some elite whites will still be allowed to rule over a brown world order is just absurd Hilary and soros are either suicidal or stupid the outcome is the same. Europeans as such have no voice legal outside usa and here its punished socially. theres no exit as you suggest 25 years ago i exited to north idaho the sign are all over the place up there maybe Newfoundland would by you a decade.We will not survive in that environment already we do not have the security and dignity we require for family formation and are hunted like polar bears.
    I find it interesting that you praise your christian/? civilization yet are not willing to take the risks that the people who founded and maintained it would have accepted as simple duty. even if you think resistance futile they would have been bound by the tenets of that civilization to fight anyway if only to die like men.I find it telling that DENRX is full of under 50s some of the most self centered whites to have ever walked the earth to latch on to a theology of acceptance and passivism with a sneer.Not the manliest generations having never lived through total war or brought up by fathers who had. This is not to say putting some thought into your last act is not a wise plan just around here we have a lot who claim after careful consideration they plan to do nothing until the ANC knocks on the door.
    So can the cathedral be took.
    First lets dispense with MM he did not in facy say all right wing violence is futile in fact he specifically used the nazis as a brilliant counter example which he then dismissed because he is afraid of them he doesnt explore how a variation might work out, This idea of democracy i also find demonstrably overblown, yes its a good critique regarding the moral hazard power distribution but the reality is in european countries it was such a hard sell to get the mobs to demand socialism they had to import and invent minorities, all over the eurosphere the people want to be left alone to raise families and go about business, democracy is not the problem its a tool the cathedral uses to claim legitamacy to programs they developed at harvard and distributed through the cathedral until enough votes could be had. In other words the cathedral is brilliant it allows elites to do whatever they want even in a democratic nations naturally opposed to what they want to do [well if you also import a bunch of niggers to help]If reaction aries owned the cathedral democracy would not be a problem its not a help to the cathedral its a ra fact they work around like christianity once was. Your best shot at a bloodless change is seizing power through democracy and the likeliest organizational meme is going to be race. like it or not there a chance this will happen, a smart group would be prepared to not let it turn into the fourth Reich and to make sure it succeeds. because frankly its that or planing some sort of high tech insurgency surgical violence clever street theater and military coup which would be a herculean task but doable if smart guys put their minds to it.
    Yes the cathedral is an incredible military power its also riddled with discontents and was only recently pwnd in the exact same way im suggesting. its hydra distributed nature makes it susceptible to directed coordinated attacks its so internally inconsistent its easy to make it fight itself ridicule it and pawn it. What im trying to describe is obviously the work for thousands of dedicated men to work out a mossad like structure to probe and learn and act.just saying it can be done its not invincible its overreached before its would be wise for it to declare martial law.
    What is futile would be to think a multicultural civilization is stable guest workers probably jews im fine with if they can be assimilated certainly not socialism certainly only making it explicitly about whiteness where the nation is already of mixed european heritage, and to engender a sense of solidarity among euros but not animosity against no euros to essentially adopt the same racialist views the rest of the human population didnt breed out. This isnt about neo nazi its simply recognizing biological reality that humans need a civilization that supports its genetic profile.
    That said what would that civilization look like? I think you have to start with what worked what did stable european civilization look like as close to the modern era as possible and where did it go wrong thats a big topic

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  • cyborg_nomade Says:

    interestingly people do not divide so neatly on capitalism.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Do you mean that laissez-faire isn’t as divisive on the Right as violence is? That’s b/c most people are domesticated and utterly fear violence, just as the underclass fears free competition. The reason violence doesn’t ‘vvork’ is b/c most people are scared and soft, not b/c the Cathedral is magical or violence is bad tactics.

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  • Laguna Beach Fogey Says:

    Lots of hand-wringing and earnest virtue-signaling in certain Alt-Right and NRx circles lately, claming that direct action and political violence are uniquely detrimental to Rightist/Nationalist aims.

    They have been proved wrong yet again.

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    admin Reply:

    NRx originated in a rejection of populist violence. It’s not going to have an Alt-Right Eureka-moment on the subject.

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    Rasputin Reply:

    Jesus, the “logic” on sale here is just appalling. Killing JC very nearly swung the tide back against Brexit, but thankfully didn’t. Honestly, I think the rain was a factor in keeping the fair-weather, signal-happy, complacent Remain voters indoors away from the polling booths.

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    michael Reply:

    I saw a graphed poll broken into leave stay undecided on about the day of assassination stay remained unchanged enough leaves turned undecided to make it too close to call, I remained hopeful it was a temporary noise, it never got better or worse in the week between JC and vote so its really unclear if JC even had anything to do with the last minute pause in the leave lead that had developed over several months.

    The story of the marketing of the guy who wrote i hope they serve beer in hell though seems to be instructive,they purposely riled up SJWs to gain market share. They said they knew they couldn’t lose any SJWs so could only incite tribalism against SJWs. They surreptitiously started petitions and boycotts against themselves then reacted militantly to them. Theres actually all sorts of evidence that contradicts your theory including mencius moldbug saying naziism was right wing and brilliantly successful.But he jst didnt want to end up with dangerous nazis so that ruled out populism for him.
    Im not arguing for guerrilla war just saying neither side is being scientific about the matter. Offthe top of my head Id say ethno solidarity is the most potent force in human organization and if provoked by anti ethnofacism it is almost a certainty to erupt powerfully and if the altright/denrx doesnt want nazis running that situation you better start thinking about that probability and stop worrying about AI

    michael Reply:

    Really thats what it boiled down to Because to me if i had to pick one facet it would be “all men are not created equal” not the non aggression

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    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Perhaps best referred to as the St. Jo Cox and the Ballot Box Strategy and call it even?

    [Mike 😉

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  • Eldrick Says:

    The worst people in the world are writhing in agony.

    I’m good.

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    John Hannon Reply:

    “… writhing in agony.”

    And for absolutely no real reason whatsoever –

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-found-10-year-old-8276076#rlabs=2 rt$category p$2

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  • Thales Says:

    It’s a beautiful day.

    #LeaveWins

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  • Orthodox Says:

    I was looking into the demographic stats. There was one district with a lot of foreigners that voted Leave, it was also very young. An outlier in the stats as presented in scatter plot charts at the Guardian.

    Barking & Dagenham. The Council page has census data.
    https://www.lbbd.gov.uk/council/statistics-and-data/census-information/2011-census/

    The White British population has decreased from 80.86% in 2001 to 49.46% in 2011
    The Black African population has increased from 4.44% in 2001 to 15.43% in 2011
    The Bangladeshi population has increased from 0.41% in 2001 to 4.14% in 2011
    All religious groups have increased except for Christian and Jewish religions
    The proportion of Muslim residents has increased from 4.36% in 2001 to 13.73% in 2011
    Highest percentage of lone parent households with dependent children in the country

    That is a monster switch over 10 years and if the rest of London is like that, then I would not bet on London being able to break away as a “free city.” That is boiling frog and if anything, the English will seek to Anglocize the city.

    A city such as New York or LA, which much of America has written off, has a better change at achieving independence.

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    michael Reply:

    WOW OMG I had no Idea Britain was below the US white level I thought europe was at only 10%. There will be blood.

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    holipopiloh Reply:

    That’s demographics data for an eastern borough of London, not Britain.

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    Dave in Degenham Reply:

    Indeed, what the City Successionist seem to forget is that the Square mile is run by provincial whites who commute into London every day from the surrounding counties. If London declared independence it would descend in to a banana republic pretty fucking sharpish. And that’s putting it lightly.

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  • Ryan Says:

    LOL. At least they agree about the internet.

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  • Lesser Bull Says:

    Congratulations, England and Wales!

    If Scotland scoots, this will truly be a jubilee year.

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    admin Reply:

    If Scotland leaves, the Labor Party will be finished. Century-level turn around in Old World Anglo politics.

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    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Oh, yes., Scotland cannot leave fast enough.

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    Chris B Reply:

    @admin “If Scotland leaves, the Labor Party will be finished. Century-level turn around in Old World Anglo politics.”

    You work from Kabuki theater history. You have zero interest in Moldbug points except what you could wring out for your, quite frankly, political agenda (the claims to non-politicization are a joke.) Anyone who has read any Quigley, or bothered to engage in actual research would find this, along with all of your other statements absurd. You are drunk on liberalism, and push politics. You and the Hestia guys don’t deserve to maintain any claim to any name using reaction in it.

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    Rasputin Reply:

    @Chris B why don’t you say what you really feel?

    admin Reply:

    Seen this? (No point quoting the bits you like back at me — I know they’re there.)

    Ahote Reply:

    Oh, now you have a deed to the word ‘reactionary’ huh? Everything not sanctioned by you is ‘liberal’ eh?

    admin Reply:

    If we’d wanted “reactionary” why would we have bothered with “neoreactionary”? (HRx can have it.)

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  • Bettega Says:

    Remember when the left was anti-globalization? All they had to do to make them love neoliberal global capitalism was to paint opposition to it as “racist” and “bigoted”.

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  • Dividualist Says:

    It is sort of ironic for me that precisely in that period of my life when I figure out / read up on why democracy does not work in general, as the general case, it happens to sort of throw a positive exception and starts to work better temporarily.

    Nick, shouldn’t for the next 10-20 years the critique of democracy be hedged a bit? Basically it seems the Left managed to work themselves into such an elitist position that now popular sentiment more and more consistently begins to spite them and choose the opposite of what they want? It does not make the theory wrong but it it makes it less useful for the time being.

    Part of the story is that the voters of the right seems to be more and more defined as simply old people. They have certain characteristics. Less likely to believe hype, less likely to signal, more likely to care for safety first. If parts of the elite defect and go for the elderly vote because it is up for taking, then there is also elite support which even in the strict Moldejouvenelian sense can actually cause change. The only thing it cannot cause is a stable, reliable new system.

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    admin Reply:

    “It is sort of ironic for me that precisely in that period of my life when I figure out / read up on why democracy does not work in general, as the general case, it happens to sort of throw a positive exception and starts to work better temporarily.” — Indeed. Precisely why calm, wide-angle analysis is to be especially valued right now. The demotic machine is much more robustly constructed than is sometimes allowed for. It adjusts even to drastic systemic threats.

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    michael Reply:

    Its better to think of democracy as a ruse like the conservative [outer] party which couldnt exist without a democratic framework. Both are used to shill for a marxist/globalist cathedral elite that already decided ages ago what it was going to do.
    Democracy doesnt vote in progress, progress is conceptualized in Harvard etal and then distributed through the cathedral until enough propaganda has been generated to get 50.5% of the niggers fags women and jews to vote it in yes fags include non homsexual white men.
    This makes the productive law abiding half of the nation really really reluctant to object. Half the time they still cant get the vote so they reinterpret the law which has the same depressing effects on the productive and law abiding.
    Very few of the progressive votes are actually for progress they are ethnic and other types of tribalism. Democracy is not the problem democracy doesnt produce socialism/multiculturalism Harvard does. Most people dont want socialism/multiculturalism. The problem is elites have a scheme that uses democracy the way they used to use Christianity.
    The people want to be left alone in security and dignity to raise families and go about there business. Intellectual types want to experiment.Its becoming clear there are two schools in DENRX those that want to experiment with progress like ideas and those that want to end this nonsense.

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    michael Reply:

    No ones boostering democracy simply pointing out its a tool of progressives not the genesis,and that wasting time worrying about it rather than seizing power from progressives is futile.Did the soviet union vote for stalin?

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  • Laguna Beach Fogey Says:

    Lord, grant that Marshal Wade
    May by thy mighty aid
    Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush and like a torrent rush,
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the King.

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  • R. J. Moore II Says:

    All ‘gas the normies’ bantz aside, pan-secessionism is the only ‘pan’/’inclusive’/’big tent’ movement that has any legs toward a useful outcome. Keith Preston is “a boss”, as the kids call him.
    Please visit, kiddos: https://attackthesystem.com/

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  • R. J. Moore II Says:

    @AnonThe ‘economics, stupid’ argument of the Remainers & EU-philes is quite similar to those Cuck pundits that push ‘trade deals’, pseudo-capitalist nonsense. Anyone that knows (real) economics 101 knows that the case for free trade is unilateral and does not involve international communist bureaucracies.

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    Mike Reply:

    Social democrats crying crocodile tears over the “economy” is risible.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    They’re upset that the tap on their rent-seeking behavior has been narrovved, that’s all.

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  • TexasCapitalist Says:

    Here’s a nice image for a texit if it ever happens:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/USS_TexasSan_Jacinto_Park_in_Fog.jpg

    This is San Jacinto Historical park, where Sam Houston, despite being outnumbered and outgunned and out trained etc., defeated the lazy Spaniard/aztec army by attacking in the middle of their siesta, thus ensuring Texas independence.. The obelisk in the background is taller than the Washington Monument, the ship is the USS Texas, only persevered battleship of WW 2 I believe.

    The fog and water also have nice Faustian/explorer/water/space implications as well. This is also not far away from the Houston Johnson Nasa space command center.

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  • Uriel Alexis Says:

    if London and Scotland (N. Ireland also?) jump off, this is the most important swing towards exit ever to have happened. if the ethos sticks (let’s pray to gnon it does, even on the Left), the general motto “if you don’t like, screw off” is likely to be defining of the next 2 or 3 decades.

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  • anonyme Says:

    The lads up north are celebrating:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzivmOQWkVQ

    But in London, it’s a different story:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMZe5hXodQg

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  • Grotesque Body Says:

    Mr Farage is getting lots of pussy right now.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Clair Khaw of UKIP must be ecstatic right now.

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  • Alex Says:

    Let’s not forget that twhat unites us is greater than what divides us.

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  • anonyme Says:

    “Any true culture is based on race and blood.”

    – Antonin Artaud (1936)

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  • S.C. Hickman Says:

    I’d rather forget race and blood, give me my biomech carapace, my black metal streamlined decopunk armor-all body. Upload the jackknife brain-weave, kill this sick puppy off. Long live the clones. Exit the human race today! You’re not getting out of here alive anyway, so why not cut to the chase? Drip, drip, drip… frack the squirreled body, slip on into a cold impersonal zoot suit and let the games begin…

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    NRK Reply:

    Now that’s definitely the NRx aesthetic, but remember, whatever it is that is uploaded, *you* still die. Which of course raises the question, what possible benefit is there in uploading a “copy of your consciousness” (that way of phrasing it is already terminally inane, but we have no other) into anything? Some weird combination of death wish and narcissism?
    Also, someone pls tell me how Brexit even helps in that endeavor.

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    michael Reply:

    and vaguely transgender

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    NRK Reply:

    Trans, maybe, but not so much gender. We’re talking a whole different level of dysphoria that has no idea where it wants to go, and is therefore much more suicidal. What dies, after all, is just a monkey.

    michael Reply:

    @
    of course but self hating, dysphoric, detachment from reality, fetishization of fantasy, morbid fixation, suicidal ideation,and general faggotry

    NRK Reply:

    The more charitable term would be ego-death, but in the case of NRx, this desire exists simultaneously with liberal/capitalist notions of souvereignty and subjectivity. Which just makes zero damn sense.

    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    The fallacy is just here: you ask what’s the benefit of uploading a “copy of your consciousness”. Who gives a shit about consciousness? If you study the neurosciences consciousness is the last gap in a long series of processes that don’t even need it. And, if my buddy, R. Scott Bakker with his blind-brain theory (see his Neuropath fiction) is anywhere on the mark, and if as Deleuze/Guattari surmised with their productive unconscious notions of diagrammatic intelligence, etc. consciousness as we use it in human form will go the way of dinosaurs within AGI. And, sure, we as flesh-and-blood will die, no soul here; no immortality to carry over, only a pattern – a brain pattern, a diagram or even engram will be imprinted or mapped. Nothing of the human Subject, Self, etc. need apply, no applications necessary… it will be another form or mode of thinking and process – Intelligence, altogether. So, yea, most of the transhumanist crapology is a sink hole of regressive metaphysics, rather than what will probably happen. Obviously my little rendition was part parody, part hyperstitional infestation; possibility mongering… whatever is coming at us knows more than we know what it will do with us at that time. Why worry about what is inevitable, enter comic fatalism and realize you were never really in control – it has already happened. As Bataille would have done… just laugh a little, communicate.

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    NRK Reply:

    “a brain pattern, a diagram or even engram will be imprinted or mapped”
    What for? For the consolation of the human that what is eating his face, will also be wearing it?

    anonyme Reply:

    @ S.C. Hickman

    Very interesting comment….thanks!

    “In what will survive me I am in harmony with my annihilation.”

    “Sacrifice is nothing other than the production of sacred things.”

    ― Georges Bataille

    Aeroguy Reply:

    Following this sentiment implies someone willing to die for his children could also be described as “self hating, dysphoric, detachment from reality, fetishization of fantasy, morbid fixation, suicidal ideation,and general faggotry”. You’d say that’s different, at which point I suppose patterns of neucleotides is the end all be all, while values, thoughts, ideas, intelligence, wisdom are all mere bathwater, it’s weird how much people screech when the inverse is suggested.

    I pity those who have nothing they value more than themselves. Women being caregivers rather than philosophers are at least able to feel this way about their children, while men are capable of extending it into the abstract. Egalitarianism is a dangerous lie precisely because of how it’s able to hijack this sentiment, cucking is in the deception.

    Humanism is the worship of man, in it’s basest form it is worship of yourself, many extend it to worship of humanity in it’s entirety warts and all, a more refined version worships idealized humanity by calling it god. There’s a big question, does there exist something intrinsically valuable about those falling under the category of human? If there is then you get universal dignity, a sort of weak egalitarianism with a lowest common denominator of value. If there isn’t then it’s possible to say some humans are garbage, in fact since there’s nothing intrinsic to humans themselves that’s valuable it’s possible that at some point all humans could be viewed a garbage if there’s something better. The only possible middle ground on this would be setting the bar above some humans but it would be forever stuck there and still have weak egalitarianism built in. Once you stop drinking from the cup of egalitarianism, when you accept that some people are literally garbage and others are exemplars to be followed, you can separate the ideal from the human, attributes from the person. Once the ideal is accepted as more important than the human, the final step is viewing the human as mere means with the ideal as end, exit from humanism.

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    michael Reply:

    Cant tell if we agree or not. My comments were I think clear, snark at admins post humanism.I wouldnt hang on his blog though if i didnt think he has some points which I guess Id characterize as theres sure to be an intersection of tech and civilization,Id add thats what we are actually critiquing as conservatives mans tech as developed faster than his DNA and modernism is the denouement of things you can go back to the stoics at least to first see critiqued.where i think admin is wrong is engineering up some new social experiment will fix things until he can confidently re design humans from gound up to match his new civilization its just progressivism 2.0 And even if he could Id try to kill him so.
    So I may disagree with you but i cant make you out. I would categorically deny your first paragraph, First because dying for ones children is the prime directive.Sort of. The only non subjective moral law is to survive and reproduce,it is the first line of code of all life. Meaning it [life]is the point and good of life not just human not just conscious. From there the code says with any extra resources keep the next closest copy of yourself alive in ascending order.Everything after that is really an derivative of those two. Granted me as i think of myself is my DNA anthropomorphizing itself to better follow prime directives one and two and all my morals instincts traits etc are simply apps its developed over the years Admins correct in a sense about monkeys business he seems to get get its monkeys all the way up as well. So of course theres others euro parents, other ethnicities, races, species, who knows space aliens, all thinking they are evolutions little darlings and we cant all be. Thats beside the point While its conceivable at some point i may be the last human on earth and have to decide between saving some form of life in the universe or buy myself a few years of unreproductive life, or I may thrive and find i have enough resources I can afford to save the wales or the niggers,If i reason well and am sure i am not setting myself up for some serious competition down the road great. But its my responsibility as part of evolution to prioritize my gene line. Fortunately My DNA has made it my grate pleasure to do so, in fact my DNA has fucked itself and Im in charge now fortunately for my DNA our interests are aligned and i understand the morality of evolution.

    So if you think i am squeemish about burnt monkey meat no pile it high Ill take mine rare, Just not my monkey meat or my offspring or relatives or my race, I might be able to get by with less than a whole race theoretically but the way history has played out the smart move is to work as a race fortunately but not coincidentally I like my race i love it my brain fills with neat chemicals when i ponder its achievements and boils with venom when i think of those who threaten it. mostly it just gives me pleasure as well as security. My pleasure is integral to my survival just as the love for my children is.

    Does this make me a human worshiping humanist thats a stretch sure technically i value life over non life humans over non humans but choices wont ever come down to that if i have to chose between africans and african fauna Im confident euro man will do a better job of furthering human life and those elephants give me pleasure and may have some secrets locked in their DNA i might need one day Id probably reduce the african human population to their sustainable pre historic tribes and manage them with the elephants and at that level i would no doubt become fond of them again as my great grandparents were. So no there is not something intrinsically valuable about all humanity per se from the point of view of a competing species, evolution and my DNA have a myopic viewpoint only concerned from copies point of view. Since Im in charge the answer is yes in the sense that first and foremost they are my species,second humans as far as we know are the highest form of life so must be preserved at all cost, but valuing all humans equally threatens the survival of humans as a species so no if it comes to it someone must be thrown out of the life boat so be it. And I get they might throw me out and philosophically Im ok with the judgement of gnon. If Soros and Hillary and Merkel give the world to niggers and they kill us off well then shame on us, but Im pretty sure something like europeans will reevolve and not make that mistake again.

    But this also implies as a nigger to Lands AI or whatever his plan is this week They are my enemy if not human if they are simply my great grandchildren crispred then so what they are still pretty much mine certainly as much mine as i am my dnas.

    But when land and others ignore the existential threat to european race in our lifetimes and derides any proposal to stop this as monkey business while blithely assuring us technology that couldn’t possibly be significant for decades or longer will save us and if not who cares well yeah count me a lumpen proletariat. It doesnt even make sense he thinks we are smart enough to invent singularity level AI but cant overthrow some faggot leftys please.

    NRK Reply:

    Living and dying for ideals is, like, sooo Cathedral, further cementing ethnonationalists’ status as the most effective self-critics of liberalism (Adorno on Hitler, iirc).

    And dying into the machine is categorically different from sacrificing yourself for your children (or really, anybody else), for reasons that have little to do with DNA. For starters: one is altruistic, selfish genes notwithstanding, the other is…not even the opposite.

    John Hannon Reply:

    “… that way of phrasing it is already terminally inane”

    Yes, “copy of your consciousness” implies that consciousness is some kind of personal possession, whereas it can perhaps less inanely be thought of as the prior impersonal clearing within which personal self identity gets assembled.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Arguably people die constantly since the human body and mind are constantly changing Heraclitian objects and not Platonic souls that possess intrinsic identity.

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  • cyborg_nomade Says:

    so, the Cathedral thinks democracy is terrible. what does it propose? academic aristocracy (formalization of the Cathedral)

    http://blog.press.princeton.edu/2016/06/24/ethicist-jason-brennan-brexit-democracy-and-epistocracy/

    nrx triumph is glorious

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  • Cristina Says:

    Two years hence UK will vote again, this time to be part of the EU. That’s the beauty of democracy.

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    Shlomo Maistre Reply:

    Quite possibly.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    If they do I say let’s get the UKIP and BNP supporters out on Airforce Trump, then nuke the fucking island.

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  • Headwinds of Reality Says:

    I spent quite a long time lurking on this blog as I felt the level of discussion was too “high brow” for me to fit in. How quickly things can change. Anyway, congrats on the Brexit. I think I will return to lurking in the shadows.

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    michael Reply:

    LOL never let it stop me. seriously you should know a few things.One is they write purposelessly obscurely to keep people like me from dragging down the level of discourse which is smart, but smart people are also kind of stupid which is sort of the whole reactionary critique of cathedral. This blog is particularly smart and despite its name detached from reality its our duty to drag them back to work

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  • anonyme Says:

    Connecting the dots…..

    Martin Heidegger:

    “But neither will anyone ask us whether we will it or do not will it when the spiritual strength of the West fails and the West starts to come apart at the seams, when this moribund pseudocivilization collapses into itself, pulling all forces into confusion and allowing them to suffocate in madness.”

    Whether such a thing occurs or does not occur, this depends solely on whether we as a historical-spiritual Volk will ourselves, still and again, or whether we will ourselves no longer. Each individual has a part in deciding this, even if, and precisely if, he seeks to evade this decision. But it is our will that our Volk fulfill its historical mission.”

    Sir Karl Popper:

    “I appeal to the philosophers of all countries to unite and never again mention Heidegger or talk to another philosopher who defends Heidegger. This man was a devil. I mean, he behaved like a devil to his beloved teacher Husserl, and he has a devilish influence on Germany.”

    George Soros (writing in the Financial Times, July 2015):

    “As it pursues one integrated migration and asylum policy, the EU should eliminate the waste and redundancy of 28 parallel systems. There should be a single European asylum and migration agency, for example, that processes asylum applications for the entire union. …..the EU has to accept at least a million asylum seekers annually for the foreseeable future…”

    Not surprising that Soros considers himself a disciple of Karl Popper….

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    John Hannon Reply:

    Going off at a tangent ….

    Martin Heidegger –

    “No single man, no group of men, no commission of prominent statesmen, scientists, and technicians, no conference of leaders of commerce and industry, can brake or direct the progress of history in the atomic age. No merely human organization is capable of gaining dominion over it.
    Is man, then, a defenseless and perplexed victim at the mercy of the irresistible superior power of technology?
    Thus we ask now: even if the old rootedness is being lost in this age, may not a new ground and foundation be granted again to man, a foundation and ground out of which man’s nature and all his works can flourish in a new way?
    Perhaps the answer we are looking for lies at hand; so near that we all too easily overlook it. For the way to what is near is always the longest for us humans. This way is the way of meditative thinking. Meditative thinking demands of us not to cling one-sidedly to a single idea, nor to run down a one-track course of ideas. Meditative thinking demands of us that we engage ourselves with what at first sight does not go together at all.”

    – such as Out and Remain?

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  • anonyme Says:

    Off topic.

    1n 1940, with Britain near collapse and the armies of Hitler everywhere triumphant, the French writer Louis Ferdinand Céline made an astonishing prophecy of disaster to Lucien Rebatet, a fellow pro-German who had come to him for advice and encouragement. What he received was a terrible letdown. Céline told him: “The Germans have lost the war.”

    Rebatet describes his own reaction:

    I looked at him stupefied. What had happened to him? This was around October 12 or 15 [1940]. The most unbridled Gaullists would have been staggered by such a statement, as would even Churchill himself. “No kidding…What makes you think that?” [Rebatet asked] They blew it [Céline replied] and us with them. In wars like this an army that doesn’t bring a revolution with it is all washed up. The Krauts have had it.

    Céline was appalled by the accommodations that Germans had made with the French system and French society. In a letter to Jean Lestandi, he wrote:

    “In order to recreate France it would have to be rebuilt entirely on racist-communal foundations.”

    Since the Germans were doing little in that direction, he believed their occupation was too complacent. They were overwhelmed by French food, French wine, French women and café society. The Germans would never win enough friends among the French poor and working classes to achieve a lasting victory because they accomplished nothing revolutionary.

    Céline desired a total cleansing, a complete shakeout. When he realized the German army was disposed to do no such thing, he was certain they would lose.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    The Germans did actually let the long-separate non-Parisian southern France secede & put in povver syndicalist ex-anarchists. This isn’t revolutionary? Granted they later puppetized Vichy, but of anything the Germans did freeing Provence from Paris vvas the most benevolent.

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  • 4k Says:

    The Alt-Right is basically a low-brow protest movement, and it degrades everything it touches.

    Obviously. But the alt-right is also a combination of failure on the part of the left as well as the right. So is NRx in favor of flooding the sewer or stemming the flow?

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    admin Reply:

    It doesn’t want “the flow” running through its own living room, certainly.

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    Posted on June 29th, 2016 at 1:58 am Reply | Quote
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