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		<title>By: Bull Market in Bitcoin? &#124; The Reactivity Place</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3902</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] been stably around 170k &amp;plusmin;10k for many weeks. Since Tuesday, it has been dropping, as I mentioned over Nick Land&#8217;s yesterday. Now it has tumbled to about 113,000, which is the lowest I&#8217;ve ever seen. In fact, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] been stably around 170k &amp;plusmin;10k for many weeks. Since Tuesday, it has been dropping, as I mentioned over Nick Land&#8217;s yesterday. Now it has tumbled to about 113,000, which is the lowest I&#8217;ve ever seen. In fact, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: fotrkd</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3878</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 10:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The added Peter Thiel article puts the action against MT Gox in a much more positive light:

&lt;I&gt;Asked about yesterday’s action against Dwolla Gallippi said much of the coverage was wrong and once you looked at the actual warrant it was clear it was a very specific problem of non-compliance – “the shell company was not licensed to do what it was doing.”&lt;/I&gt;

Further, MT Gox is probably the major problem for BTC right now. It&#039;s crap and bloated beyond its capabilities. Anything - including USG creating a market opportunity - that can lead to more competent exchanges should surely be welcomed? They&#039;re going to try to regulate, but that&#039;s just part of constructing the system, isn&#039;t it?

Interesting that &quot;Joining Founders Fund is ‘Mad Max’ Keiser’s Heisenberg Capital – a London-based fund focussed on Bitcoin investments.&quot; Keiser&#039;s stated on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSOHwCOnG0&amp;sns=em&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;RT&lt;/a&gt; awhile back that BTC needs an exchange with a &#039;market-maker&#039; and that he was looking to get involved. There was a discussion on another post about the extent the left were embracing bitcoin - Keiser will generate a lot of interest from that direction. Interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The added Peter Thiel article puts the action against MT Gox in a much more positive light:</p>
<p><i>Asked about yesterday’s action against Dwolla Gallippi said much of the coverage was wrong and once you looked at the actual warrant it was clear it was a very specific problem of non-compliance – “the shell company was not licensed to do what it was doing.”</i></p>
<p>Further, MT Gox is probably the major problem for BTC right now. It&#8217;s crap and bloated beyond its capabilities. Anything &#8211; including USG creating a market opportunity &#8211; that can lead to more competent exchanges should surely be welcomed? They&#8217;re going to try to regulate, but that&#8217;s just part of constructing the system, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Interesting that &#8220;Joining Founders Fund is ‘Mad Max’ Keiser’s Heisenberg Capital – a London-based fund focussed on Bitcoin investments.&#8221; Keiser&#8217;s stated on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbSOHwCOnG0&amp;sns=em" rel="nofollow">RT</a> awhile back that BTC needs an exchange with a &#8216;market-maker&#8217; and that he was looking to get involved. There was a discussion on another post about the extent the left were embracing bitcoin &#8211; Keiser will generate a lot of interest from that direction. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3870</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 07:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a confusing picture. For sure, the Cathedral globally overwhelms the planet to an almost farcical extent, penetrating the most minute tics of political correctness into the unlikeliest of places, and installing the ideal of universal democracy as sole criterion of legitimacy in the souls of its few remaining challengers. Even the Chinese seem to think they have to pay lip-service to it, perhaps in large part due to the legacy of Western-influenced democratic doctrine inherited from the pre-communist Republican period (&#039;democracy&#039; evokes Sun Yat-sen). USG&#039;s command of raw military power on a colossal scale is also undeniable. 

On the other hand, which enemies has it &quot;destroyed with utmost efficiency and ruthlessness&quot; since WWII? Not the North Koreans, not the Vietnamese communists, not the Sandinistas, not al-Qaeda, not the Taliban, not the Iranians, not the Latin American &#039;Bolivarians&#039; ... The Soviet Union dismantled itself. The Iraqi military was destroyed, but that was just a displacement target for the real enemy (energized Islamic radicalism), so I&#039;m not sure whether it counts as much. USG&#039;s ability to impose its will concretely, i.e. in a way that furthers practical national interests, seems to have declined in perfect concert with its ideological mesmerization of the world. US-hegemonic globalization operates like a machine ensuring the controlled collapse of Occidental power, transferring it automatically -- and relatively smoothly -- to more efficiently organized societies. 

If we go Moldbug on the question, and treat the only &#039;real&#039; enemies of USG as right-wing governments (Marcos, Pinochet, Rhodesia, the RSA ...) then for sure, they&#039;ve gone. This only deepens the puzzle, though, because it suggests that USG can only demolish tractable regimes -- those disposed to be friendly -- and thus weaken its effective influence with every &#039;accomplishment&#039;. The Moldbug analysis begins to look quite plausible: this isn&#039;t foreign policy as it has ever been understood before, but rather domestic religious neurosis projected outwards onto the global stage. Systematically eliminating right-wing pro-American regimes isn&#039;t &quot;efficiency and ruthlessness&quot; but extraverted self-flagellation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a confusing picture. For sure, the Cathedral globally overwhelms the planet to an almost farcical extent, penetrating the most minute tics of political correctness into the unlikeliest of places, and installing the ideal of universal democracy as sole criterion of legitimacy in the souls of its few remaining challengers. Even the Chinese seem to think they have to pay lip-service to it, perhaps in large part due to the legacy of Western-influenced democratic doctrine inherited from the pre-communist Republican period (&#8216;democracy&#8217; evokes Sun Yat-sen). USG&#8217;s command of raw military power on a colossal scale is also undeniable. </p>
<p>On the other hand, which enemies has it &#8220;destroyed with utmost efficiency and ruthlessness&#8221; since WWII? Not the North Koreans, not the Vietnamese communists, not the Sandinistas, not al-Qaeda, not the Taliban, not the Iranians, not the Latin American &#8216;Bolivarians&#8217; &#8230; The Soviet Union dismantled itself. The Iraqi military was destroyed, but that was just a displacement target for the real enemy (energized Islamic radicalism), so I&#8217;m not sure whether it counts as much. USG&#8217;s ability to impose its will concretely, i.e. in a way that furthers practical national interests, seems to have declined in perfect concert with its ideological mesmerization of the world. US-hegemonic globalization operates like a machine ensuring the controlled collapse of Occidental power, transferring it automatically &#8212; and relatively smoothly &#8212; to more efficiently organized societies. </p>
<p>If we go Moldbug on the question, and treat the only &#8216;real&#8217; enemies of USG as right-wing governments (Marcos, Pinochet, Rhodesia, the RSA &#8230;) then for sure, they&#8217;ve gone. This only deepens the puzzle, though, because it suggests that USG can only demolish tractable regimes &#8212; those disposed to be friendly &#8212; and thus weaken its effective influence with every &#8216;accomplishment&#8217;. The Moldbug analysis begins to look quite plausible: this isn&#8217;t foreign policy as it has ever been understood before, but rather domestic religious neurosis projected outwards onto the global stage. Systematically eliminating right-wing pro-American regimes isn&#8217;t &#8220;efficiency and ruthlessness&#8221; but extraverted self-flagellation.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3867</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladimir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 06:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[admin,

&lt;i&gt;That’s what the Cathedral means: there’s no resolution to anything.  Winning is too cruel to be allowed [...] settling problems isn’t in any agency’s bureaucratic interests — it’s bad for career prospects.  [...] 
I really don’t see USG ‘dealing’ with anything — do you? What was the last thing it dealt with? Its competence decays every year. &lt;/i&gt;

Is this impression a result of USG&#039;s truly diminished ability to fight and exercise control -- or merely of the fact that it has no serious enemies left? It seems to me that USG&#039;s most recent enemies have been destroyed with utmost efficiency and ruthlessness; it&#039;s just that unlike those from some decades ago, they were so puny and feeble that it didn&#039;t require any impressive exertion on USG&#039;s part. 

Now, your remarks about bureaucratic sclerosis are certainly true. However, a good comparison (as in so much else) would be the Brezhnevian Soviet Bloc. There was a horrible bureaucratic sclerosis and dysfunction in this system, and nothing ever got done in an efficient and pleasant way -- but if you tried any serious opposition against the system, you would be crushed instantly and ruthlessly, as it happened collectively to the Czechs in 1968 and individually to countless dissidents throughout this period. A political system can keep an efficient immune system against internal destabilizing forces for a very long time, even after it becomes otherwise hopelessly dysfunctional and sclerotic. 

The key difference is that the Brezhnevian system eventually capitulated to a superior external power, but USG has no such competition. And while it&#039;s certainly getting more Brezhnevian as time goes by, I see no reason why any organized serious opposition against it in the foreseeable future can expect anything but a Prague Spring of its own.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>admin,</p>
<p><i>That’s what the Cathedral means: there’s no resolution to anything.  Winning is too cruel to be allowed [&#8230;] settling problems isn’t in any agency’s bureaucratic interests — it’s bad for career prospects.  [&#8230;]<br />
I really don’t see USG ‘dealing’ with anything — do you? What was the last thing it dealt with? Its competence decays every year. </i></p>
<p>Is this impression a result of USG&#8217;s truly diminished ability to fight and exercise control &#8212; or merely of the fact that it has no serious enemies left? It seems to me that USG&#8217;s most recent enemies have been destroyed with utmost efficiency and ruthlessness; it&#8217;s just that unlike those from some decades ago, they were so puny and feeble that it didn&#8217;t require any impressive exertion on USG&#8217;s part. </p>
<p>Now, your remarks about bureaucratic sclerosis are certainly true. However, a good comparison (as in so much else) would be the Brezhnevian Soviet Bloc. There was a horrible bureaucratic sclerosis and dysfunction in this system, and nothing ever got done in an efficient and pleasant way &#8212; but if you tried any serious opposition against the system, you would be crushed instantly and ruthlessly, as it happened collectively to the Czechs in 1968 and individually to countless dissidents throughout this period. A political system can keep an efficient immune system against internal destabilizing forces for a very long time, even after it becomes otherwise hopelessly dysfunctional and sclerotic. </p>
<p>The key difference is that the Brezhnevian system eventually capitulated to a superior external power, but USG has no such competition. And while it&#8217;s certainly getting more Brezhnevian as time goes by, I see no reason why any organized serious opposition against it in the foreseeable future can expect anything but a Prague Spring of its own.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3830</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mt. Gox total sell offers down to 144k at this moment.  BTC are REALLY fast and easy to take out of Mt. Gox and into a wallet or other exchange.  My suspicion is that people are taking them off to find other exchange methods.  With Mt. Gox on partial lockdown we may not be able trust their price as THE &quot;official&quot;  trade price for much longer.  I&quot;m going to start paying more attention to BTCe and bitstamp.  Bitstamp&#039;s volume appears to be roughly half of Mt. Gox&#039;s in the last 24 hrs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mt. Gox total sell offers down to 144k at this moment.  BTC are REALLY fast and easy to take out of Mt. Gox and into a wallet or other exchange.  My suspicion is that people are taking them off to find other exchange methods.  With Mt. Gox on partial lockdown we may not be able trust their price as THE &#8220;official&#8221;  trade price for much longer.  I&#8221;m going to start paying more attention to BTCe and bitstamp.  Bitstamp&#8217;s volume appears to be roughly half of Mt. Gox&#8217;s in the last 24 hrs.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3818</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Course the gold sellers would need to accept BTC... But AFAIK bitpay is shouldering a lot of this on the legit side.  Of course that adds more friction to what is supposed to be frictionless...  As much as paypal?  I dunno.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Course the gold sellers would need to accept BTC&#8230; But AFAIK bitpay is shouldering a lot of this on the legit side.  Of course that adds more friction to what is supposed to be frictionless&#8230;  As much as paypal?  I dunno.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never really thought about that, but yeah that would work.  They can&#039;t shut down the commerce side.  What&#039;s gonna stop the &quot;money launderers&quot; from buying physical gold and then selling that?

Does USG really want to turn a bunch of law-abiding citizens into scoff-laws? To treat financial regulations like we treat speed limits?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never really thought about that, but yeah that would work.  They can&#8217;t shut down the commerce side.  What&#8217;s gonna stop the &#8220;money launderers&#8221; from buying physical gold and then selling that?</p>
<p>Does USG really want to turn a bunch of law-abiding citizens into scoff-laws? To treat financial regulations like we treat speed limits?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick B. Steves</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3816</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick B. Steves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m as identified to Mt. Gox as I am identified to my Credit Union.  Dwolla AND Mt. Gox both.  They both got my NJ-issued photo ID.  Mt. Gox wanted a utility bill as well.  The &quot;Verify&quot; was already onerous and would have discouraged &quot;Money Launderers&quot;.  Japan based Mt. Gox has been passing the Astroglide to USG for at least 6 months now.  I don&#039;t see what this changes, except taking away the least friction USD exit, i.e., Dwolla, from Mt. Gox.  There are many others.  They just cost a bit more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m as identified to Mt. Gox as I am identified to my Credit Union.  Dwolla AND Mt. Gox both.  They both got my NJ-issued photo ID.  Mt. Gox wanted a utility bill as well.  The &#8220;Verify&#8221; was already onerous and would have discouraged &#8220;Money Launderers&#8221;.  Japan based Mt. Gox has been passing the Astroglide to USG for at least 6 months now.  I don&#8217;t see what this changes, except taking away the least friction USD exit, i.e., Dwolla, from Mt. Gox.  There are many others.  They just cost a bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3813</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 15:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s too much (great stuff) here to respond to in one spasm. You&#039;re right that a structured debate would provide discipline, although the market sets the frame for us automatically. 

I&#039;m not sure that the BTC topic is separable from wider questions of government competence and Cathedral prospects. We&#039;re agreed the BTC can&#039;t, strictly speaking, die -- i.e &quot;go to zero and stay there&quot;. That&#039;s technically and economically impossible, or at least requires an exotic form of state intervention beyond any yet seriously discussed. The NSA could buy up all Bitcoin? But then, they&#039;re still being mined. The algorithm is extraordinarily robust. 

So whatever happens to USG going forward, Bitcoin will be out there, waiting, along with the drug mafias, terrorists, rogue states, and other scary things. Nothing gets resolved anymore. That&#039;s what the Cathedral means: there&#039;s no resolution to anything. Winning is too cruel to be allowed, and as Moldbug has explained, settling problems isn&#039;t in any agency&#039;s bureaucratic interests -- it&#039;s bad for career prospects. The incentives point to endless festering, which can easily be spun as humanitarian delicacy (or nuance), bringing more liberal applause, more jobs, more resources ... So it all just builds up. That&#039;s the context. 

I really don&#039;t see USG &#039;dealing&#039; with anything -- do you? What was the last thing it dealt with? Its competence decays every year. Scandals used to be something like ruthless conspiracies. Now people just ask: What the hell were they trying to do? It&#039;s slapstick government, and it&#039;s in no one&#039;s real interests for it not to be. If &quot;it hits hard&quot; where are the defeated enemies? (I&#039;m not seeing any.) The only people it really gets to push around are the domestic middle-class dupes who pay for its ineffective flailing. ... OK, I&#039;m rambling. Here&#039;s the test: let&#039;s try to agree on a list o five serious policy challenges (other than Bitcoin) that USG might conceivably resolve over some time span to be mutually agreed. I don&#039;t think it will solve any, ever, although some might get solved for it by accident, and despite its ineptitude (e.g. energy independence). I think USG is done. Its problem solving days ended decades ago. If Bitcoin becomes a &#039;problem&#039; it will fester too. Then, when the time for opportunistic infection comes around, it breaks out ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s too much (great stuff) here to respond to in one spasm. You&#8217;re right that a structured debate would provide discipline, although the market sets the frame for us automatically. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that the BTC topic is separable from wider questions of government competence and Cathedral prospects. We&#8217;re agreed the BTC can&#8217;t, strictly speaking, die &#8212; i.e &#8220;go to zero and stay there&#8221;. That&#8217;s technically and economically impossible, or at least requires an exotic form of state intervention beyond any yet seriously discussed. The NSA could buy up all Bitcoin? But then, they&#8217;re still being mined. The algorithm is extraordinarily robust. </p>
<p>So whatever happens to USG going forward, Bitcoin will be out there, waiting, along with the drug mafias, terrorists, rogue states, and other scary things. Nothing gets resolved anymore. That&#8217;s what the Cathedral means: there&#8217;s no resolution to anything. Winning is too cruel to be allowed, and as Moldbug has explained, settling problems isn&#8217;t in any agency&#8217;s bureaucratic interests &#8212; it&#8217;s bad for career prospects. The incentives point to endless festering, which can easily be spun as humanitarian delicacy (or nuance), bringing more liberal applause, more jobs, more resources &#8230; So it all just builds up. That&#8217;s the context. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t see USG &#8216;dealing&#8217; with anything &#8212; do you? What was the last thing it dealt with? Its competence decays every year. Scandals used to be something like ruthless conspiracies. Now people just ask: What the hell were they trying to do? It&#8217;s slapstick government, and it&#8217;s in no one&#8217;s real interests for it not to be. If &#8220;it hits hard&#8221; where are the defeated enemies? (I&#8217;m not seeing any.) The only people it really gets to push around are the domestic middle-class dupes who pay for its ineffective flailing. &#8230; OK, I&#8217;m rambling. Here&#8217;s the test: let&#8217;s try to agree on a list o five serious policy challenges (other than Bitcoin) that USG might conceivably resolve over some time span to be mutually agreed. I don&#8217;t think it will solve any, ever, although some might get solved for it by accident, and despite its ineptitude (e.g. energy independence). I think USG is done. Its problem solving days ended decades ago. If Bitcoin becomes a &#8216;problem&#8217; it will fester too. Then, when the time for opportunistic infection comes around, it breaks out &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Schlarlach</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/btc-end-times/#comment-3809</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schlarlach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 14:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brilliant. I mean, that&#039;s the direction things need to go, yes? Alternatives to fiat currency shouldn&#039;t fail or succeed based on the ease with which one can exchange them back for fiat currency. Put your Bitcoins into precious metals . . . or precious plants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant. I mean, that&#8217;s the direction things need to go, yes? Alternatives to fiat currency shouldn&#8217;t fail or succeed based on the ease with which one can exchange them back for fiat currency. Put your Bitcoins into precious metals . . . or precious plants.</p>
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