Chaos Patch (#116)

(Open thread + links (delayed))
Given recent disruption, probably especially patchy. (Chaos Patches might be moving to Tuesday’s regularly for a while, coincidentally.)

The death of exit. The Pope of Moldbuggian ‘orthodoxy’. The Hoppean road. A fake civilization. The church cannot lead. WeSearchr (repeated). The weekly round (in doom), and outliers.

This is an insanely difficult perspective to adopt …” Ascended Economy (1, 2), and very related.

Return of the tribe (also). The monarchist moment. Amren quafs leftist tears (1, 2). Resentment cannot be assuaged. Sexy pagans.

Alt-Right panic report. The Aryan Goddess (1, 2, 3). The unnecessariatBlame the left for the Alt-Right. “It’s really concerning …” (video).  Origins of the Alt-Right. Fashy birds.

More Duerte Harry. Venezuela‘s only friends are idiots (there’s a Marxist take). Low-T Europe (1, 2), plus the center cannot hold (1, 2, 3). Flashpoint Austria. Tomorrow‘s EU. Greece is going nowhere. Britain’s true friends. The US and SE Asian geopolitics (over ideology). The old South Africa. Indian demographicsChallenges and opportunities in China. Global security welfare. Deglobalization. The Westphalian order is dying (video).

Trumpenführer panic report (0, 1, 2). Resistance is futile (plus, and double-plus). The SCOTUS factor. Authoritarians for Trump (video). Foreign drama.

Slack Twitter.

Asian racism (inversely related).

Thiel and private deterrence (1, 2, 3, 4), relevant. Milo does DePaul (video).

Brains do not compute. Vox does IQ. End of the anti-biotic era. Information processing in bacteria. Zombie ants.

VR and philosophy. Quantum philosophy.

The Uber-effect. Crypto-radicalization. Implementing swarm intelligence.

On dares. Hyper-Reality.

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  • Outliers (#7) Says:

    […] Unreported race riots. Black Nationalism. European extremism. Brain drain. We. Violence as voting. Cures. Awakening. AmRen overview, highlights and significance. Flailing religion. Conservatism++. Last-minute substitutions. #nrx evaporation. Pan-Europeanism. Love, possibly. What is falling, push. Aggregation: here, here and here. […]

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  • Alrenous Says:

    That aeon brain article is so bad it’s an argument against itself. Dude can barely think of a single argument that isn’t a bald assertion. A glorious failure of metacognition, the same way the Hindenburg made a glorious fireball.

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  • useablecrania Says:

    The ” The empty brain” article is terrible. It’s not only full of assertions, but demonstrably wrong. The brain loses information all the time, true, but it *can* simulate a Turing machine (however slowly). This capability puts it, as a matter of mathematics, in the same category as the common electronic computer. And of course the brain is representational. In fact, we’ve already decoded some of the representations: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4669501/

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    admin Reply:

    Some demolition here.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    On the plus side, he raises basically all the relevant issues, and helpfully lists some neuroscientists who can go on the scholarly blacklist.

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  • Tentative Joiner Says:

    A detailed dissection of how UAE allegedly does HUMINT over the Internet. Don’t let the lame title dissuade you from reading on.

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  • Denswend Says:

    Surprised you haven’t linked SA’s newest hit piece “Ascended Economy”. I don’t want to spoil it so check it out when you can.

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    Tentative Joiner Reply:

    The link is there. You’ve missed it.

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    Denswend Reply:

    Huh, I could have sworn there wasn’t any. Oh well, a random brain fart.

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    admin Reply:

    “Hit piece” is unnecessarily harsh.

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  • wu-wei Says:

    Pope of Moldbug – very funny. Where the RF blogger sees the intellectual diversity of post-Moldbuggian thought as sin, XS admin appears to see it as strength – at least, within the admittedly liberal conception of the “marketplace of ideas”. Still, RF raises some extremely excellent points, as well as cogent objections – although perhaps too often wrapped in an (unfortunately) disgruntled and combative disposition.

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  • wu-wei Says:

    From the Hoppe-libertarian link, final paragraph:

    “but in their zeal to tear down the state, libertarians are perfectly happy to undermine social trust as well. After all, many don’t even recognize that it exists.”

    As a recovering libertarian, and (long time ago) globalization/open-borders religious zealot, this really drives it home. I’ll bet this rings true for a lot of libertarian-to-NRx converts, as well. Surely even arch-libertarians such as Bryan Caplan would immediately renounce their ideological pedigree, if they only understood this simple truth.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    The problem with Libertarianism and National Socialism is the same: they are trying to build a society from outside in, meaning that they use external manipulation to try to achieve social order.

    The real answer is Darwinism: choose the competent, put them in charge, and stop making rules.

    Many of us got into libertarianism because we dislike any Leftist economy solely because it does not work. Looking at the ruins of America, we see Leftist economic theory at work as usual.

    But the problem is that the social Conservative ideas must go hand-in-hand with it, and there must be some kind of leadership above the markets, or we end up right back at demotism.

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    michael Reply:

    And all those kings and Emperors you admire they got there blogging and waiting to be considered worthy [And smoking their pipes LMAO]? No they fucking killed everybody that got in their way then did as they pleased.

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    michael Reply:

    you dont put the competent in charge, they put you in chains for even thinking shit like that. Kings didnt bother learning to read and write on those clay tablets it was bothersome all that code,they had slaves for that.

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  • Grotesque Body Says:

    From the (((Epstein))) article.

    “We are organisms, not computers. Get over it.”

    Look before you leap, Dr Epstein. Problematic thoughts come from applying the same standard of thinking to humans as we do to other organisms.

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    ‘Further, I suspect that the future belongs more to the Alt-Right than the conservatives, because it is a consequence of “Progress”, the more America “progresses”, the stronger the Alt-Right will grow.’

    Pepe smiles.

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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    lol Tyler discovers people do not like the status quo..about two years late on that one

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  • Butler Says:

    Got a Trumpenführer panic for you from the BBC, which perhaps only surprised me with its audacity because the metropole is usually fairly restrained (relatively speaking):
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-36422611

    TL;DR: Jon Sopel pens a piece which displays such a negative correlation with actual truth that I genuinely laughed out loud while reading it. After Trump lambastes the media for being classic Cathedral shills, Sopey opines “The remarkable thing that has struck me as a British correspondent living in Washington, and who is used to a robust relationship between journalist and politician, is how Trump has been treated with kid gloves”, citing the fact that no-one in the media has ever managed to force The Donald to elude *specifically* how he would Build Wall and Evict Mexican.

    Well, John, I suppose you’re technically correct, but that may have something to do with the fact that the media class has been so busy screaming “Racist, raaaaaaccccciiiiissssstttt!!!!!” at the top of their lungs for months that there’s not all that much breath left in ’em to talk logistics.

    So remember readers, ‘Donald Trump has been treated with kid gloves by the media’.
    And Oceania has always been at war with East Asia.

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  • Gc Says:

    >The unnecessariat

    The original article was sanctimonious drivel (Scott Alexander thinks it’s awesome, of course).

    The general denial of agency seems to be an on-going theme with the left in general. No matter how much they howl about objectification, they seem to regard other human beings like objects rather than subjects – helpless things that get acted upon by drugs, unemployment, technology, capitalism etc. and not subjects that act.

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    admin Reply:

    When pity is always the answer, you’re probably running a leftist protocol.

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    Alrenous Reply:

    >No matter how much they howl about objectification

    SJWs always project.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    Quantum philosophy.

    deriving philosophical concepts from physics is nothing new and mostly had a bad endings. it is easy to conclude, that philosophy based on some fundamental laws of physics going to be as much fundamental. problem is that our interpretation of fundamental laws of phisics are changing. therefore, philosophical concepts directly dirived from phisics, is not a fault prove. such concepts can be wrong right from begining too, especially if used phisical postulates are not the current ones. for example, gravitation currently considered as weakest from all four fundamental interactions of nature, and not all matter made of ”composites’, neutron starts for example contains nothing but neutrons.

    really risky way to go, just be sure it worth all that troubles.

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  • Dale Rooster Says:

    “but in their zeal to tear down the state, libertarians are perfectly happy to undermine social trust as well. After all, many don’t even recognize that it exists.”

    News to me. I thought most libertarians argue that markets foster and cultivate social trust. Libertarians correctly acknowledge that nation-states are generally hostile to markets. Capitalism entails trust. Command societies working for collective unity and warm, fuzzy group feelings destroy it.

    Also: “Good government promotes social trust, bad government undermines social trust. Social trust, assabiyah, group feeling: these are all terms denoting the same thing. A high-trust society will have a great deal of cohesion; people will interact without much conflict and engage in collective action, whether building a skyscraper or raising the next generation….members of a high-trust society are willing to pay high taxes, to submit to regulations for the public good, to support a welfare state and expansive public services, to send their children to public school, to be conscripted during times of war, and in general to respect their social superiors.”

    Sure. On the other hand, this sounds like Soviet propaganda.

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    Ahote Reply:

    Neoreaction was a mistake. It’s nothing but trash.

    Those who identify as ‘neoreactionaries’, they sicken me deeply.

    Curtis Yarvin

    On the more serious note, it’s exactly the things like high taxes, regulations, welfare state and expansive public services, public schools, and war that destroy community and the traditional way of living the most, those people should really get into reading Robert Nisbet and Russel Kirk. (And what to say of public schools and conscription, French revolutionary inventions whose sole purpose was to indoctrination and subsequent gobbling up of kids into Grande Armée?) Ah, you evil libertarians, how dare you to have a desire to destroy all the greatest achievements of the Left?

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  • Tentative Joiner Says:

    Today CY presented Urbit at LambdaConf. There were no apparent attempts to sabotage his talk. Slides and a bootleg video have already been released.

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    Tentative Joiner Reply:

    Scratch that. The video was released today but CY gave the talk on May 27.

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    SVErshov Reply:

    thanks for sharing, very impressive. and what a huge scope of work. definitely I want one.

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    If have nowhere near the technical cred to evaluate whether this measures up to the hype, but if it does he’s going to go down in history alongside Leibniz and Babbage.

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    SVErshov Reply:

    redesign the whole internet architecture from ground zero, use IP as your digital property, run anything on top of it including any kind of crypto coins, it is huge by its scope.

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  • Grotesque Body Says:

    “Resistance is futile”

    Rick Perry and other assorted RINOs cucking for the Trumpenfuhrer. Cuckservatives never change. Demonstrate strength and they will cuck themselves for you.

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  • Tentative Joiner Says:

    Elon Musk, simulationist.

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  • Axel Mckibbin Says:

    Responding to Chaos Patch # 116

    here,

    http://theanti-puritan.blogspot.com/2016/06/responding-to-chaos-patch-116.html

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  • Eye Says:

    All Hail the Grandfather of NRx:

    http://eliezeryudkowskyquotes.tumblr.com

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    Steve Johnson Reply:

    Is there a reason someone put Moldbug quotes on pictures of the fat degenerate Yudkowsky?

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    Grotesque Body Reply:

    EY is my favourite high-IQ idiot.

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