Chaos Patch (#118)

(Open thread + links)

The American experiment, conservative insight, and formalism. Confused conservatives. Church and State. Border security (an SF story). Ideological mechanics. Basics of balance. Wrecked names. Responses to the Cowen “neo-reaction” post by Nydwracu, Anti-Gnostic, and VD (with much resonance). The weekly round, plus outliers.

Buried crimes of the Left. Race on campus. The incoherence of Liberal Democracy. America is broken. Defenses of militant atheism, and of mutualism. Jihad denial. Thiel unleashed. Parenthetical remarks (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). Alt-Right rhetoric. Evola and fascism.

Madness in France. Brexit panic spreads (1, 2, 3, 4). The Australian (immigration) model. Swiss still sensible. Venezuela still screwed. State of the jihad, pre-Orlando (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7). Islamic ruin in Bangladesh. Oh Canada. The Shenzhen model. Technological de-globalization. “… we are witnessing the end of one era of world history and the dawn of another.”

Trumpenführer panic report. Media fail (1, 2, 3). High-brow Trumpism (an epic troll?). The stupid party. Sad people.

Gawker fun. SV TV. Information suppression.

String-theory by elimination. Evolution of consciousness. Thoughts on the Fermi Paradox. Strange star. The geography of schizophrenia. EQ is BS.

21 Computer goes open-source. Google’s quantum ambitions. Radio disintermediation. An AI movie. China’s deep plans.

The Antikythera Mechanism. Lost cities of Cambodia. Hanson’s AOE book meta-reviews (1, 2, 3, 4, 5).

June 14, 2016admin 23 Comments »

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  • Uriel Alexis Says:

    mutualism caught your sight, that’s interesting.


    Posted on June 14th, 2016 at 3:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • Grotesque Body Says:

    First for Nigel Farage.


    Grotesque Body Reply:

    Didn’t even know about (((Nick Denton))).


    Posted on June 14th, 2016 at 4:11 pm Reply | Quote
  • Alrenous Says:

    The deep sea is a natural training ground for off-planet missions. If you’re serious about space, start underwater.
    Naturally, China beats America there. Not only that, they’ve learned from the treasure fleets. The base will be expected to pay for itself.


    Aeroguy Reply:

    If they produce something substantive and there’s no call for a deep sea race it would prove how weak the Pentagon has become especially given the geopolitical significance of conceding that region to the Chinese would be. The equation for pure immediate economic gain hasn’t quite reached the necessary critical point, but adding geopolitical power to the equation could be the catalyst to make it start happening. Potential for substantive Chinese technological innovation, haven’t seen that since the Song dynasty.


    Posted on June 14th, 2016 at 5:48 pm Reply | Quote
  • Tentative Joiner Says:

    “Algorithmic injustice”.


    Posted on June 14th, 2016 at 7:00 pm Reply | Quote
  • frank Says:

    This is incredible. How did I miss this? Especially complexity graphs.

    For all its retardation, the sheer amount of data collection/organization redeem academic econ.


    Posted on June 14th, 2016 at 10:34 pm Reply | Quote
  • Peter A. Taylor Says:

    Here’s an interesting podcast on Pascal’s Wager. Pascal made a whole lot more sense than the dumbed-down version of his ideas that I was taught. In engineering jargon, part of the problem is that belief is not a control variable. Pascal understood this. We should be talking about “commitment systems”, not “belief systems”. I especially liked the “weak dominance” game theory version of Pascal’s Wager.


    Posted on June 15th, 2016 at 4:28 am Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    String-theory by elimination.

    one man had 3 sons, two were particle physicists, and third one worked on string theory.

    this moves toward gravitation very clever one. gravitation is only one of fundamental forces where no source of particles still discovered. when it will be, and it will, as particles physics moving in fast pace, string theorists will fix it into their graffs and say, see it fit just fine.

    if you cannot disprove something (like string theory) you have to tollerate it.


    Posted on June 15th, 2016 at 4:50 am Reply | Quote
  • Augustus Pugin Says:

    “The neoreactionaries have only interpreted the world, the point is to change it.”

    – Peter Thiel’s 11th thesis on Moldbug


    Posted on June 15th, 2016 at 4:59 am Reply | Quote
  • Erebus Says:

    That article at “High-brow Trumpism” is profoundly stupid. It doesn’t have a shred of consistency. It closes with:

    >”I have no doubt that for some voters (and maybe for more than some) this is what’s most appealing about Trump: They want a defender, someone who’ll fight like hell for their interests as passionately as he fights for his own, someone who’ll respond to the identity politics of the left (which favors people of color and women) with an identity politics of the right (which favors Caucasians and men), even at the risk of being called a racist and a sexist by the politically correct elite of both parties.

    >This is what Trump appears to have in mind — a politics of ethnic, racial, and gender grievance for white male America. Only someone who lives entirely in and for ideas could believe that an America that descended fully into this kind of Balkanized politics could somehow emerge on the other side ready to re-embrace the colorblind rule of law. It would be far more likely to break apart into angry, rivalrous factions incapable of fastening onto any overarching notion of a common good.”

    There is only one possible response: We already have a politics of ethnic, racial, and gender grievance. (It has simply been utterly one-sided until very recently.) We already have angry, rivalrous factions incapable of fastening onto any overarching notion of a common good. (Besides, nobody can agree on a definition of “common good”; for who, whom?) We do not have the colorblind rule of law. (And what they call “rule of law” is itself turning into a sham.)

    The “politically correct Republican elite” have failed utterly, are quite obviously nothing more than Moldbug’s Outer Party, and conserve nothing. They have enabled and abetted America’s politics of ethnic, racial, and gender grievance. It should surprise nobody that voters are starting to notice. That these voters should latch onto whatever alternatives present themselves is also, of course, no surprise.

    Typically disgraceful showing from The Week.


    Posted on June 15th, 2016 at 9:53 am Reply | Quote
  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Neoreaction represents more of a vocabulary for analyzing modern society, like an API/SDK for a complex app, than an end result in itself. This is why pop-NRX has somewhat fallen into decay, and the alternative right is assimilating from within much of what remains.

    Us 1788 types are here pushing the alternative right to even greater extremes… 14/88 is just not far enough.


    Posted on June 15th, 2016 at 11:51 am Reply | Quote
  • pedanticmoron Says:

    Here’s a shit post if there ever was one, but I just can’t fucking stand Social Matter. What an awful website, what horrible writers.

    Nothing but a huge liability.


    Grotesque Body Reply:

    My grandfather’s conservatism looks pretty good in comparison.


    Posted on June 15th, 2016 at 3:55 pm Reply | Quote
  • Mark Warburton Says:

    Nick – worth a read.


    Tentative Joiner Reply:

    The ending of the game presents a trilemma very congruent with the NRx analysis of capital: do you, as a sovereign, try to maintain its apparently stable present orbit (by propping up and joining the Illuminati — comparisons to the Cathedral are far too obvious), push through the boundary of stability backwards into the peace and safety of a new dark age or accelerate forward towards a singularity that merges cyborg-you with it (“This is what I was made for, isn’t it?”)?


    Tentative Joiner Reply:

    The words “backwards” and “forward” above may unnecessarily suggest a strictly linear view of history. I should have instead evoked orbital mechanics more directly since the trilemma is agnostic towards the structure of human history; it only requires acknowledging that the history capital can be organized into — since we are talking computer games — a technology tree of rough dependencies.


    Posted on June 16th, 2016 at 2:06 am Reply | Quote
  • John Hannon Says:

    Re. the Evolution of consciousness link – maybe consciousness* is not what brains produce but rather what they accommodate, as succinctly suggested here by Peter Russell –

    *Maybe the term “conscious-ing” would be more appropriate here, implying as it does activity rather than thingness – an activity or process field that brains might accommodate or participate in to whatever degree their particular complexity facilitates.
    Just a thought.


    Posted on June 16th, 2016 at 8:26 am Reply | Quote
  • Alvin Says:

    Off-topic, but does anyone remember this article about a bankster analyst saying the only three relevant areas of the world for economic predictions were China, Europe and the US, and even Russia and Turkey were irrelevant? I remember reading it a few months ago but can’t find it now.


    Posted on June 16th, 2016 at 12:35 pm Reply | Quote
  • Tentative Joiner Says:

    Germany to stop tolerating polygamy (of the non-soft kind).


    Posted on June 16th, 2016 at 2:45 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dividualist Says:

    The DAO: the problem is that people vote with other people’s money, not just theirs, and all get rewards, not just those who voted rest. In other words, it works like shareholders in a business, the whole of a business invests into a project, and every shareholder gets the same proportional dividends. This is a classic public choice problem. Lack of feedback, lack of incentive to choose well. The reason it tends to work for most corporations is that shareholders are not employees.

    In the DAO only token holders can propose projects, hence shareholders are employees. Imagine a company where the head of IT is a shareholder and they vote for the yearly budget instead of just voting for a CEO who decides the yearly budget. The head of IT would vote a big IT budget because it benefits more than the lower proftis hence dividends or share price. So it has the classic democratic problem, conflicts of interest, private benefits, public costs, interest group scramble.

    This is bad. I will hold on to my tokens for a while because I think when Slock gets their smart locks out on the market – this is the main project anyway – they will appreciate, but overally it is not a good model of governance in the long run.


    Posted on June 17th, 2016 at 7:29 am Reply | Quote
  • Dividualist Says:

    Turns out there are far deeper problems, but Vitalik is on the rescue


    Posted on June 17th, 2016 at 11:33 am Reply | Quote
  • anonyme Says:

    The Yinon Plan

    “The Western front, which on the surface appears more problematic, is in fact less complicated than the Eastern front, in which most of the events that make the headlines have been taking place recently. Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

    The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

    Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi’ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.

    Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel.

    An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible.”

    excerpt from “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties” (aka the Yinon Plan)

    Now compare this to what Gen. Wesley Clarke revealed about about the lead-up to the Iraq War:

    Six weeks later, I saw the same officer, and asked:

    “Are we still going to attack Iraq?”   He said: “Sir, it’s worse than that. He said – he pulled up a piece of paper off his desk – he said: “I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense’s office. It says we’re going to attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years – we’re going to start with Iraq, and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.”


    Posted on August 15th, 2016 at 5:01 am Reply | Quote

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