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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-100654</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kgaard

I care, thanks. You sold it well, too - haven&#039;t heard about the religious angle, interesting.

I don&#039;t think &#039;decadent&#039; is the right word, though. It just means lazy and indulgent. The west is greedy for evil. The west exults corruption, perversity, and depravity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kgaard</p>
<p>I care, thanks. You sold it well, too &#8211; haven&#8217;t heard about the religious angle, interesting.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8216;decadent&#8217; is the right word, though. It just means lazy and indulgent. The west is greedy for evil. The west exults corruption, perversity, and depravity.</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-100306</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, should anyone care, here is a very interesting article from the latest Foreign Affairs entitled, &quot;What the Kremlin is Thinking: Putin&#039;s Vision for Eurasia,&quot; by Alexander Lukin. It is very Dugin-ian in its approach. In addition to geopolitics he makes some interesting points about the religious resurgence across the former FSU and central Asia, involving Orthodox, Muslim and even Buddhism. He argues that these people are a lot more concerned about the next world than this one, and thus agree with Dugin that the west is decadent and would rather side with Russia. Says the pan-Slav trade bloc has been a big success and a lot of FSU states were eager to join it.

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141538/alexander-lukin/what-the-kremlin-is-thinking

I read this at the counter of a new diner that opened at the end of my street. Waitress was a Russian in her 20s. Probably a 6 by Moscow standards but a 12 by suburban DC standards.  The aesthetics gap between the FSU and the US cannot be overstated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, should anyone care, here is a very interesting article from the latest Foreign Affairs entitled, &#8220;What the Kremlin is Thinking: Putin&#8217;s Vision for Eurasia,&#8221; by Alexander Lukin. It is very Dugin-ian in its approach. In addition to geopolitics he makes some interesting points about the religious resurgence across the former FSU and central Asia, involving Orthodox, Muslim and even Buddhism. He argues that these people are a lot more concerned about the next world than this one, and thus agree with Dugin that the west is decadent and would rather side with Russia. Says the pan-Slav trade bloc has been a big success and a lot of FSU states were eager to join it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141538/alexander-lukin/what-the-kremlin-is-thinking" rel="nofollow">http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/141538/alexander-lukin/what-the-kremlin-is-thinking</a></p>
<p>I read this at the counter of a new diner that opened at the end of my street. Waitress was a Russian in her 20s. Probably a 6 by Moscow standards but a 12 by suburban DC standards.  The aesthetics gap between the FSU and the US cannot be overstated.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-100303</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(I&#039;m in tune with this reaction, too.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I&#8217;m in tune with this reaction, too.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-100284</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great points. I had the same response to Dugin. Liked him right out of the box. I see he is an Evola fan, which may help explain it. I hope the next US president takes a more circumspect approach to dealing with Russia, though I am not overwhelmingly hopeful. I see Romney is toying with running in &#039;16 now.  He has positioned himself as a hard-liner on Russia. That sells well in flyover country but presumably he himself knows better -- though perhaps the Deep State wouldn&#039;t let him get away with an easing-up of Cold War strategies even if he wanted to ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points. I had the same response to Dugin. Liked him right out of the box. I see he is an Evola fan, which may help explain it. I hope the next US president takes a more circumspect approach to dealing with Russia, though I am not overwhelmingly hopeful. I see Romney is toying with running in &#8217;16 now.  He has positioned himself as a hard-liner on Russia. That sells well in flyover country but presumably he himself knows better &#8212; though perhaps the Deep State wouldn&#8217;t let him get away with an easing-up of Cold War strategies even if he wanted to &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-100263</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 23:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally got around to the Dugin interview. I&#039;m at 42:00 now.

Thede-spasm? Broken out in hives? I rather like him, at least according to what he says in this interview. (He might be motte-bailing like mad.) He wants Russians to win in conflicts with America. He thinks Russians who take American aid and comfort and use it against Russia should be treated as traitors. I find these things very forgivable given he&#039;s a Russian. Further, he&#039;s not strictly a philosopher, but some sort of Russian style of intellectual, so I find his philosophical failings similarly unimportant. 

By contrast, Posner was revealed as a revolting revenant of a man. Sophistry and narcissism. Narcissistry and Sophism. Christ, let the man speak! He didn&#039;t force is way onto the set, you invited him! Of course, it&#039;s not that surprising, since he voluntarily took a job in showbiz. (Read as; &#039;voluntarily stuck his hand in a wood-chipper.&#039; Or perhaps his brain.)

It&#039;s downright pleasant to have a enemy who isn&#039;t trying to convince me to lay down and die for my own good. Annihilation! Open calls for censorship! Fantastic. When asked to name names, Dugin in fact named names. 

With an enemy like Dugin, there&#039;s clear victory and defeat conditions. Once defeated, he&#039;s safe, as he will honourably admit defeat and abide by the terms. 

An enemy like Posner is a zombie. The infection must be cleansed with a scorched earth policy. Anyone even mildly suspected of having been exposed must be treated as an active combatant. The only peace possible is the Roman kind. This involvement of the innocent is exactly why zombies should never be granted quarter. Every activist should be treated as if they&#039;re proposing mass murder, because that is what it will take to save anything good from them. Or: when someone proposes total war, the rational, proportionate response is to immediately declare total war on them. 

Thinking about how zombies can&#039;t be reasoned with, I suspect enemies like Dugin are a problem for anti-appeasement theory as well. He can be reasoned with, which means under certain conditions he can be appeased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got around to the Dugin interview. I&#8217;m at 42:00 now.</p>
<p>Thede-spasm? Broken out in hives? I rather like him, at least according to what he says in this interview. (He might be motte-bailing like mad.) He wants Russians to win in conflicts with America. He thinks Russians who take American aid and comfort and use it against Russia should be treated as traitors. I find these things very forgivable given he&#8217;s a Russian. Further, he&#8217;s not strictly a philosopher, but some sort of Russian style of intellectual, so I find his philosophical failings similarly unimportant. </p>
<p>By contrast, Posner was revealed as a revolting revenant of a man. Sophistry and narcissism. Narcissistry and Sophism. Christ, let the man speak! He didn&#8217;t force is way onto the set, you invited him! Of course, it&#8217;s not that surprising, since he voluntarily took a job in showbiz. (Read as; &#8216;voluntarily stuck his hand in a wood-chipper.&#8217; Or perhaps his brain.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s downright pleasant to have a enemy who isn&#8217;t trying to convince me to lay down and die for my own good. Annihilation! Open calls for censorship! Fantastic. When asked to name names, Dugin in fact named names. </p>
<p>With an enemy like Dugin, there&#8217;s clear victory and defeat conditions. Once defeated, he&#8217;s safe, as he will honourably admit defeat and abide by the terms. </p>
<p>An enemy like Posner is a zombie. The infection must be cleansed with a scorched earth policy. Anyone even mildly suspected of having been exposed must be treated as an active combatant. The only peace possible is the Roman kind. This involvement of the innocent is exactly why zombies should never be granted quarter. Every activist should be treated as if they&#8217;re proposing mass murder, because that is what it will take to save anything good from them. Or: when someone proposes total war, the rational, proportionate response is to immediately declare total war on them. </p>
<p>Thinking about how zombies can&#8217;t be reasoned with, I suspect enemies like Dugin are a problem for anti-appeasement theory as well. He can be reasoned with, which means under certain conditions he can be appeased.</p>
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		<title>By: First Off, I Was Wrong &#124; Clown Town</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-91363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Off, I Was Wrong &#124; Clown Town]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] left with lots of questions, to be sure. For example, Land aligns himself with the Atlanteans, but I don&#8217;t feel like I quite understand what this means to him. I [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] left with lots of questions, to be sure. For example, Land aligns himself with the Atlanteans, but I don&#8217;t feel like I quite understand what this means to him. I [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-87370</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m reluctantly to get involved for as long as some tattered camouflage remains, for fear of doing police work (of however pitiful a variety) on behalf of those I don&#039;t like. As soon as the matter is settled, I will descend upon it like a hawk.

I&#039;m entirely in concurrence with your sense of what this would mean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reluctantly to get involved for as long as some tattered camouflage remains, for fear of doing police work (of however pitiful a variety) on behalf of those I don&#8217;t like. As soon as the matter is settled, I will descend upon it like a hawk.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m entirely in concurrence with your sense of what this would mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasputin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-87355</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 17:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, I would be very interested to read it. 

Had you posted about the Szabo-is-Satoshi theory already? I&#039;ve arrived at this very late, but it&#039;s quite fascinating stuff. It also leads me to speculate on CY&#039;s motivations behind his Urbit project; after all the two clearly have several overlapping areas of competition going (for instance Neocameralism vs Juristopia), and if Szabo IS Satoshi he must have made out like a bandit not a thief, making millions (potentially billions) while enduring a real world influence and legacy potentially as important as anyone this century. Faced with that no wonder CY has been too busy with code for regular updates...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I would be very interested to read it. </p>
<p>Had you posted about the Szabo-is-Satoshi theory already? I&#8217;ve arrived at this very late, but it&#8217;s quite fascinating stuff. It also leads me to speculate on CY&#8217;s motivations behind his Urbit project; after all the two clearly have several overlapping areas of competition going (for instance Neocameralism vs Juristopia), and if Szabo IS Satoshi he must have made out like a bandit not a thief, making millions (potentially billions) while enduring a real world influence and legacy potentially as important as anyone this century. Faced with that no wonder CY has been too busy with code for regular updates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrea Castillo argues &#039;no&#039; (I believe) based on some evidence I&#039;ll try to hunt down. I normally take her very seriously on Bitcoin-related questions, but in this case I don&#039;t think she can be right. The Szabo-is-Satoshi evidence is just too compelling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrea Castillo argues &#8216;no&#8217; (I believe) based on some evidence I&#8217;ll try to hunt down. I normally take her very seriously on Bitcoin-related questions, but in this case I don&#8217;t think she can be right. The Szabo-is-Satoshi evidence is just too compelling.</p>
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		<title>By: Rasputin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-20/#comment-87321</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wondered if anyone around these parts had any thoughts concerning the speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is in fact Nick Szabo? 

https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/

https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/occams-razor-who-is-most-likely-to-be-satoshi-nakamoto/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wondered if anyone around these parts had any thoughts concerning the speculation that Satoshi Nakamoto is in fact Nick Szabo? </p>
<p><a href="https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/" rel="nofollow">https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-nick-szabo/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/occams-razor-who-is-most-likely-to-be-satoshi-nakamoto/" rel="nofollow">https://likeinamirror.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/occams-razor-who-is-most-likely-to-be-satoshi-nakamoto/</a></p>
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