Comments on: Chaos Patch (#28)

By: nydwracu

nydwracu — Wed, 24 Sep 2014 04:49:32 +0000

I used to be a syndicalist, but I was also a neoconfederate then, so. (I was raised in PG County fuck-whitey post-leftism, but then I went to public school.)

Never managed to be a libertarian, even back when everyone I knew was.

By: Neener

Neener — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 07:58:36 +0000

Yes. Those two blogs I pointed out are really interesting.

Here is another slightly related field that you and Nick might be interested in:

The HSR journal had a recent issue on security and conspiracy theory that tries to make a new academic study called “security history” that is about how governments use conspiracy theory and genuine conspiracies to legitimize security operations. The issue is here:

http://www.gesis.org/en/hsr/current-issues/current-issues/381-security-and-conspiracy/

If you scroll down to the bottom there is a table of contents, and you can find some of the papers from the issue online. Here is one:

http://www.academia.edu/3551616/Security_Politics_and_Conspiracy_Theories_in_the_Emerging_European_State_System_15th_16th_c._

By: Neener

Neener — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 07:49:41 +0000

@taz, if you enjoyed Wells’ writing/topics, you might also enjoy those two occult blogs I picked out above (if you haven’t heard of them already).

Chris Knowles’ Secret Sun blog is in the middle of a series tying together Gnosticism, ISIS, and Jacques Vallee / John Keel, so you could jump right in. It is worth going through the following tags for some genuinely weird shit that he manages to dig up:

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Occult
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search/label/Freemasonry
http://secretsun.blogspot.com/search/label/H.P.%20Lovecraft

Gordon at Runesoup is great as well. Has a number of apocalyptic themes under: http://runesoup.com/tag/apocalypse/

Some classic runesoup occult posts worth reading:

http://runesoup.com/2012/03/when-we-met-the-neighbours-the-whisky-rant-part-7/
http://runesoup.com/2013/11/the-unreality-of-the-rulers/
http://runesoup.com/2013/07/very-bad-company/
http://runesoup.com/2013/07/saint-sirius-and-the-dog-days/
http://runesoup.com/2013/07/crowley-and-the-nine-interpretatio-chaotica/

Both blogs definitely tie into the extinction aesthetic with their fin de siècle feel and apocalyptic/occult posts.

By: Was Enlightened

Was Enlightened — Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:57:50 +0000

Was Enlightened does what it does. So does futuremurder. And admin.

The Parthians may have viewed the Dacians as degenerate barbarians.

Rome’s annihilation of Dacia should have terrified the Parthians all the same.

By: SanguineEmpiricist

SanguineEmpiricist — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:49:24 +0000

I’ve been trying to get neoractionaries to accept operational security for awhile. At least some prudent understanding about basics. I think we shoiuld write a very basic primer, although there are already a lot of resources for that.

A NRx forum would be good on the darknet either over TOR/i2p. Especially for people afraid of retribution for their views.

TOR is essentially made for activists. Some minimum amount of work will go a good amount of the way.

By: SanguineEmpiricist

SanguineEmpiricist — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:31:04 +0000

I don’t really know about Authoritarian let, but I was a revolutionary leftist for awhile. I tried to find home in a lot of differet viewpoints over the years, while keeping what I knew was correct from the results of the genome project close. I can expound a bit, but the best I found was anti-dialectics analytical marixsm(gross), but I preferred the understanding from the Anarchist F.A.Q that we need not be concerned with the Communist obsession with names ie “Trotskyist, Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist” etc. I found Barefoot Bum which was one of the only people at that age that I found any one discussing empiricism and actually thinking about stuff.

I was interested in results and I found *some* in say Albania, the massive industrialization of russia during the revolution moving the economy from fuedal to an industrialized nation.

To me if someone were to speak well of Pinochet, it still strikes a pain in my heart to hear him spoken of well. I am not any more but I think I’m one of the few that actually skirted with the ultra-left. One of the more interesting things that I kept in mind was Kayazkinsci’s manifesto and criticism of some parts of leftism. I even printed a copy and underlined some words and gave them to my english teacher to describe the flaws in her leftism(lol).

Libertarians I had some sympathy for because they tried to actually think, but the curse that is Austrian economics destroyed them, Some weird obsession with axiomatic frameworks that do not have empirical correspondence of relevance that I NEVER found a legitimate critique from other than my own. I used to be so pissed of I planned to write a paper describing to them where they fell astray. The obsession with Ron Paul was distasteful. A good critique from the right I enjoyed, was “Marxism of the Right”

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/marxism-of-the-right/

It was until I found Curt Doolittle(who was never a letist from what I understand), that I saw any type of similiar critique. I really like Doolittle in how educated he is. Glad he’s a part of NRx. A guy I can believe in

Somewhere before that I found Less Wrong, but I had gone most of the way already by doing a minimum amount of legwork reading Taleb, who is the person who pushed me away from Leftism and forward past almost all mainstream american politics.

By: Kgaard

Kgaard — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:37:39 +0000

“Can society support a whole generation of young men that do nothing and have no future?” To that I would answer an emphatic “Yes!” That is precisely the game plan. It’s more humane than sending them to die in wars or coal mines. In this context I consider most recreational drugs, video games and porn as basically all of a piece: A way to anaesthetize excess males and take them out of the power struggle. Society doesn’t need them, really. And with the obesity crisis there are nowhere near enough hot women to go around. So, excess males are free to stock shelves at Target, live in $400/month apartments in the exurbs, eat ramen noodles, smoke dope, play video games and watch porn to their heart’s content. To me it was entirely logical that drugs would be legalized. It serves the interests of the powers that be as much as it does the hippies.

Of course, out of this mess will evolve a few breakaway creative winners who, Turchin-like, ride in out of the desert with world-dominating new technogadgets …

By: taz

taz — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 21:40:04 +0000

Oh my goodness! RigInt (rigorous intuition) quoted here. The Wells’ inspired forum is decidedly leftwards.

By: Nathan Turner Overdrive

Nathan Turner Overdrive — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:23:47 +0000

Eau de NRx, anyone?

http://phys.org/news/2014-09-people-body-odor-similar-political.html

By: Izak

Izak — Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:54:41 +0000

4chan and all other kinds of mob-based activities are natural occurrences and constitute a basic force of nature, like fire, or the wind. The wind can be really lame if you’re reading a book, because it will blow your pages around and ruin your day. It also might annoy you because you get cold and have to button up your jacket. But you also could make a windmill and harness its natural power for something useful. It’s pretty much up to you.