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		<title>By: Izak</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-148037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Izak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 05:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey man thanks for the link!

I saw the reading list yesterday; the site is down now. I&#039;ll look at this guy&#039;s stuff some more a bit later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man thanks for the link!</p>
<p>I saw the reading list yesterday; the site is down now. I&#8217;ll look at this guy&#8217;s stuff some more a bit later.</p>
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		<title>By: Antisthenes</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-148034</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antisthenes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 05:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is NRx oriented with regard to Pascal Bruckner? I&#039;ve just gotten into the nouveux philosophes, keen to dig into a full-length treatment of the subject of Western ethnomasochism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is NRx oriented with regard to Pascal Bruckner? I&#8217;ve just gotten into the nouveux philosophes, keen to dig into a full-length treatment of the subject of Western ethnomasochism.</p>
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		<title>By: SanguineEmpiricist</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-147433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SanguineEmpiricist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 04:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way I wrote this came off wrong. Apologies. I just wanted to recommend him if you like RD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I wrote this came off wrong. Apologies. I just wanted to recommend him if you like RD.</p>
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		<title>By: SanguineEmpiricist</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-147413</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 04:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please read Curt Doolittle @ Propertarianism if you like RD. He is the necessary extension and he is actually legitimate. The humanities/politics people almost never have enough technical background to legitimize what they are saying. He actually does. That was not a statement about Ricardo Duchesne.

http://www.propertarianism.com/reading-list/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read Curt Doolittle @ Propertarianism if you like RD. He is the necessary extension and he is actually legitimate. The humanities/politics people almost never have enough technical background to legitimize what they are saying. He actually does. That was not a statement about Ricardo Duchesne.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.propertarianism.com/reading-list/" rel="nofollow">http://www.propertarianism.com/reading-list/</a></p>
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		<title>By: SanguineEmpiricist</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-147410</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SanguineEmpiricist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 04:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From Taleb

http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/LargeN.pdf

Watching Taleb win versus every one is like watching a hero in a movie/TV show get better and better and defeat all his enemies. I tried so hard to see if there was ever anything wrong(there wasn&#039;t). Reading him + recommended readings + bibliographies got me so much further than Less Wrong people(They are still stuck with Bayesian vs Frequentist arguments). Thank god.

&quot;It is also necessary to debunk a fallacy: we simply
do not have enough data with commonly discussed
fat-tailed processes to naively estimate a sum and
make series of claims about stability of systems,
pathology of people reacting to risks, etc.
FT
O u observe data and get some confidence that the
average is represented by the sample thanks to a
standard magical &quot;n&quot;. Now what if the data were fat
tailed? How much more do you need? This brief note
explore points more formally developed in Silent Risk

 I am extracting this piece as I initially underestimated
how bad the inference problem with fat tails could be.
What I thought was an underestimation by 40 times
turned out to be more like 10 4 times.

The common heuristics in entry level statistics is (for
some obscure reason) n = 30. Assuming we are con-
fortable with such a number in the standard Gaussian
domain, how much larger n does one need for the
same error under a different process? It is strange that
given the dominant role of fat tails nobody thought
of calculating some equivalence table. How can people
compare averages concerning street crime (very thin
tailed) to casualties from war (very fat tailed) without
some sample adjustment?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Taleb</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/LargeN.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/LargeN.pdf</a></p>
<p>Watching Taleb win versus every one is like watching a hero in a movie/TV show get better and better and defeat all his enemies. I tried so hard to see if there was ever anything wrong(there wasn&#8217;t). Reading him + recommended readings + bibliographies got me so much further than Less Wrong people(They are still stuck with Bayesian vs Frequentist arguments). Thank god.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is also necessary to debunk a fallacy: we simply<br />
do not have enough data with commonly discussed<br />
fat-tailed processes to naively estimate a sum and<br />
make series of claims about stability of systems,<br />
pathology of people reacting to risks, etc.<br />
FT<br />
O u observe data and get some confidence that the<br />
average is represented by the sample thanks to a<br />
standard magical &#8220;n&#8221;. Now what if the data were fat<br />
tailed? How much more do you need? This brief note<br />
explore points more formally developed in Silent Risk</p>
<p> I am extracting this piece as I initially underestimated<br />
how bad the inference problem with fat tails could be.<br />
What I thought was an underestimation by 40 times<br />
turned out to be more like 10 4 times.</p>
<p>The common heuristics in entry level statistics is (for<br />
some obscure reason) n = 30. Assuming we are con-<br />
fortable with such a number in the standard Gaussian<br />
domain, how much larger n does one need for the<br />
same error under a different process? It is strange that<br />
given the dominant role of fat tails nobody thought<br />
of calculating some equivalence table. How can people<br />
compare averages concerning street crime (very thin<br />
tailed) to casualties from war (very fat tailed) without<br />
some sample adjustment?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-146226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vxxc2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2014 00:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Police apologists: if you still think a few looted shops ‘distract from the message’, wait until you see the guillotines.&quot;

That&#039;s concluding sentence from the Stop with the Riot Shaming. 

There should be no mercy for the Left, none. This Tyler Reinhard punk could pass for white.

This is the kind of thing that really clears my occasional twinges of conscience, or doubts.  

Forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Police apologists: if you still think a few looted shops ‘distract from the message’, wait until you see the guillotines.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s concluding sentence from the Stop with the Riot Shaming. </p>
<p>There should be no mercy for the Left, none. This Tyler Reinhard punk could pass for white.</p>
<p>This is the kind of thing that really clears my occasional twinges of conscience, or doubts.  </p>
<p>Forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Frog Do</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-145616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frog Do]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2014 20:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IMO, &quot;Moldbug studies&quot; remain one of the more fertile areas of research for the American Outer Right. More interesting info in that &quot;Trilema&quot; piece than anything on Ferguson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, &#8220;Moldbug studies&#8221; remain one of the more fertile areas of research for the American Outer Right. More interesting info in that &#8220;Trilema&#8221; piece than anything on Ferguson.</p>
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		<title>By: Izak</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-145554</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Izak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2014 17:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this hasn&#039;t been linked before, I highly recommend this piece of criticism toward the ENR by my main man Ricardo Duchesne (with a nice bonus exchange between Duchesne and a New Right dude in the comments section): http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/11/the-european-new-right-and-its-animus-against-western-civ/

I suspect the admin here (and some other NRx dudes) would gravitate toward this quote from RD debunking the possibility for a revamping of paganism:

&quot;I learned much from Evola’s Revolt Against the Modern World; it offers fascinating ideas about the “higher world” of ancient cultures, how rulers, institutions, and laws were seen as divine in origin and how this divinity ensured spiritual stability with a clear sense of the proper ranking of classes and human activities, higher spiritual functions versus lower materialistic functions, giving purpose and meaning to life, uplifting everyone in the direction of the higher “invisible reality” and conferring a sacred dignity to leadership roles, rituals, and beliefs. His understanding of the meaning of “tradition” surpasses that of any sociologist.

But Evola is not a practical thinker in tune with the actualities of Western history, what is possible today in the modern world. Just as Spengler called for German conservatives to liberate themselves from Romantic, unrealistic goals based on “dead” programs, the New Right needs to accept and adapt to the realities of international finance, genetic engineering, and robotics. It must not let go of the Faustian ethos.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this hasn&#8217;t been linked before, I highly recommend this piece of criticism toward the ENR by my main man Ricardo Duchesne (with a nice bonus exchange between Duchesne and a New Right dude in the comments section): <a href="http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/11/the-european-new-right-and-its-animus-against-western-civ/" rel="nofollow">http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/11/the-european-new-right-and-its-animus-against-western-civ/</a></p>
<p>I suspect the admin here (and some other NRx dudes) would gravitate toward this quote from RD debunking the possibility for a revamping of paganism:</p>
<p>&#8220;I learned much from Evola’s Revolt Against the Modern World; it offers fascinating ideas about the “higher world” of ancient cultures, how rulers, institutions, and laws were seen as divine in origin and how this divinity ensured spiritual stability with a clear sense of the proper ranking of classes and human activities, higher spiritual functions versus lower materialistic functions, giving purpose and meaning to life, uplifting everyone in the direction of the higher “invisible reality” and conferring a sacred dignity to leadership roles, rituals, and beliefs. His understanding of the meaning of “tradition” surpasses that of any sociologist.</p>
<p>But Evola is not a practical thinker in tune with the actualities of Western history, what is possible today in the modern world. Just as Spengler called for German conservatives to liberate themselves from Romantic, unrealistic goals based on “dead” programs, the New Right needs to accept and adapt to the realities of international finance, genetic engineering, and robotics. It must not let go of the Faustian ethos.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sobl</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-145525</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sobl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2014 15:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am impressed with the Thai coup aftermath. The genesis for the coup wwas a widespread belief amongst the party of literates that kept losing due to pure numbers that too much power was vested in the mass of dumdums. There&#039;s been no chaos and anarchy post-coup and no mentions in the US media. The junta earns a polite golf clap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am impressed with the Thai coup aftermath. The genesis for the coup wwas a widespread belief amongst the party of literates that kept losing due to pure numbers that too much power was vested in the mass of dumdums. There&#8217;s been no chaos and anarchy post-coup and no mentions in the US media. The junta earns a polite golf clap.</p>
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		<title>By: scientism</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/chaos-patch-38/#comment-145490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scientism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s slightly more interesting than that. Weimar decadence has gone from something you downplay in mainstream historical accounts of the Nazi&#039;s rise for fear of making their cause sound sympathetic, to something you can openly boast about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s slightly more interesting than that. Weimar decadence has gone from something you downplay in mainstream historical accounts of the Nazi&#8217;s rise for fear of making their cause sound sympathetic, to something you can openly boast about.</p>
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