Chaos Patch (#4)
As requested by fotrkd: Let sonic mayhem erupt.
(The (un)sound thing is ripped off Kode9 btw — it helps that it’s an Apocalypse Now reference.)
Thales: “‘Battle of the Bands’ might prove to be an evergreen thread, easily eclipsing any previous or subsequent OI comment thread …” — macabre possibilities heave themselves from the depths …
I feel obliged to start. Something welcoming.
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admin Reply:
July 8th, 2013 at 4:46 pm
It’s the xylophone solo that does it.
Cut that out, and it sounds like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPsWtOpmO_I
… and I just have to throw this in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpXi7uMBMeU
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fotrkd Reply:
July 8th, 2013 at 5:23 pm
I actually liked that second one. Though I didn’t get all the way through obviously. How are we working this? From “Prepare to die” we could go here (and hopefully hasten greater involvement).
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fotrkd Reply:
July 8th, 2013 at 8:30 pm
Nothing is more absurd than a philosopher seeking to be liked.
Of course, I could be really annoying and break this down (eventually?).
I’m afraid I can’t get behind most of the metal that’s been posted here – and I’m a “reformed” metalhead, so I’m not necessarily repulsed, just bored.
Most critics that deal in electronic music have been lamenting the lack of future shock coming out of the scene in the past few years. Post-Dubstep has devolved into deep house, and the old guard has disolved back into the scenes from whence it originally drew.
Kode9 has been pushing footwork lately: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG1Z-7i_7T0
A few years ago dBridge and Instra:mental were doing the Autonomic Podcasts, which were mostly destroit-esque halfstep DnB mixes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RYFf8oe1t0
Om Unit has been pushing “Slowfast”, (roughly speaking) a hybrid of halfstep DnB and footwork: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VDTHlANJC0
Things on the grimey end are also reaching a point where they deserve attention.
Blackdown’s label Keysound is pushing this grime-dubstep-garage-funky hybrid people are (last I checked) calling Dark-130: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzTPIjqGR6w
Joe Muggs thinks Grime is having a renaissance (“Grime 2.0”): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSlQ5g5ge-4
And Bristol still knows its bass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAPiosBC5T0
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 9:52 am
The metalists seem to be keeping their heads down, break-beaten down maybe..
I’m annoyingly having trouble getting access to some of these (probably GFC problems), but “Road” is superb — even if the tempo drags a bit.
You know the Kode9 track is Shanghai-related?– it’s our Xingfu Lu.
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j. ont Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 3:56 pm
I figured it was about Shanghai. What’s the significance? You two still keep in touch?
Wen’s stuff is always superb. Check out “Spark It”. Man’s drums are mental.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtSofFX6dLQ
Exit Records is putting out a new compilation of experimental stuff 170. DnB, Footwork, Slowfast stuff. “Mosaic Vol. 2” clips, up on soundcloud.
https://soundcloud.com/dbridge/sets/mosaic-vol-2
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John Hannon Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 10:30 pm
When it comes to totally over the top metal intensity, Birmingham blackened-necro nutjobs Anaal Nathrakh are hard to (blast)beat.
(So brutal their vocalist once personally threatened to kill me when I dared question his interpretation of Nietzsche)
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admin Reply:
July 10th, 2013 at 1:27 pm
Only threatened? What a pussy.
I’m not sure if its come much to your attention Nick, but your earlier accelerationist writings see to have already fed into a movement loosely termed ‘Distroid’. It also has a sister movement called ‘Vaporwave’, which is the light to Distroids shadow. There is a rather fantastic two part feature on both by Adam Haper here:
http://dummymag.com/features/2012/07/12/adam-harper-vaporwave/
http://www.dummymag.com/features/2012/07/13/distroid-gatekeeper-fatima-al-qadiri-adam-harper/
James Ferraro is probably the most important artist, with various side projects working across both the Vaporwave and Distroid aesthetics. His 2011 album Far Side Virtual is unimpeachably brilliant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xYW-ADt70c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82omu5nrkk
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 9:57 am
I’m finding it surprisingly hard to make the connection with James Ferraro. The sunniness might be under-girded by creepy irony, but the brain-stem doesn’t know that. I can tell there’s interesting stuff going on there though — I’ll work at it.
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Snoop lives (or lived, anyway) in the next L.A. suburb over from me, at 2399 Alamo Heights Dr., Diamond Bar, CA 91765. He lives in a ritzy gated community, coaches his son’s basketball team, and buys lots of ice for backyard BBQs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDBgoGEBHJE
In other words, he hasn’t been seriously gangsta for at least a decade now. He just smokes a lot of pot and sells the gangsta lifestyle to people while he basks in upper-class, gated-community glory.
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Thales Reply:
July 8th, 2013 at 11:25 pm
Besides, is there a genre of music that is more of the Cathedral than “gangsta” rap, a genre that breeds the ultimate parasite? I’m disaffected by the system! Yeah, that’s why you’re knocking-up hos to perpetuate it.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 8th, 2013 at 11:32 pm
You missed the Milton reference then…
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John Hannon Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 2:34 am
Re. ultimate parasite – The makers of the vid seem to exhibit an attitude of almost embarrassed incredulity at the welfare system – like how can the state possibly be so dumb?
If only the state could see itself with such clarity.
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 10:07 am
Agreed this is truly astonishing — best candidate for a neoreactionary anthem so far (despite — or perhaps because of — its complete lack of musical interest). I’ve never seen the welfare system so brutally ridiculed.
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Converge – The Saddest Day. The song manages to get so many hooks in it’s crazy.
I saw them at a Scout Hut in Canterbury back in 2004. It was very messy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJBjWpas0q4
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fotrkd Reply:
July 8th, 2013 at 11:46 pm
OK. I have to tone this down a (significant) touch.
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Arred Wade Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 12:47 am
Saw them on the Jane Doe tour in 03 and they closed with this. Brutal as hell.
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I’m pulling this out of the other thread (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKlgqPaGEAs)
and adding some slow-building Cygnus X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xISg9irBfA)
because I want some fucking semblance of melody to emerge from this. Without some notes, there is no semiotics to the music. Call me a neoreactionary techno-capitalist romantic, but I like to think that our music should be extra-human, not anti-human. Exiting low-earth orbit. Merging with the music of the spheres. Noise, yes, but with a decodable signal buried within.
Distort the glossolalia but retain the melody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2G32EkoVg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2FOnrFlEJY0)
Or, if you enjoy E like I do, we can go full EDM and bring glow sticks and pacifiers to the post-democratic collapse. I think that would make it more enjoyable:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE-LgBcLrJE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctQg7CUNAlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTuVV6tBLMk
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Mark Warburton Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 8:21 am
“Call me a neoreactionary techno-capitalist romantic, but I like to think that our music should be extra-human, not anti-human.”
Yeah, I’m feeling that.
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 8:58 am
Please don’t upset the killer robots.
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Thales Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Excuse me? They’re called “North Koreans.”
admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 10:39 am
Cygnus X — a bit meh.
Crystal Castles — oh yes, scraggly psychosis works for me.
(Youtube won’t let me get at the rest, right now.)
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nydwracu Reply:
July 10th, 2013 at 5:45 am
I could go for some anti-human music. Most of the stuff out there that tries to be that is just boring. Merzbow, Kevin Drumm, Sunn O))), whatever, it all bores me. The closest thing to properly futuristic music I’ve heard is Autechre. If we’re nominating anthems of neoreaction, I’d go with Gantz Graf:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJfHU4GoOQ
That vaporwave stuff is no better than Merzbow. If you want to turn up the disintegration beam of capitalism, you could at least dispense with traditional meters and tuning systems and all that. It all sounds like it comes from Geocities. Geocities is the past, not the future. It’s too bad most of the microtonal crowd is based in classical music, although there are exceptions.
I apparently forgot to post this comment yesterday when I wrote it so I’m not going to add anything else.
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Proposal for a neo-reactionary anthem – my most enduringly favourite song ever!
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Scharlach Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 2:19 am
You’re drunk obviously.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 3:38 am
What makes you say that?
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I go to a lot of noise shows here in the States. A lot of “concept” bands; I’ve been wondering if the neoreactionary thought will catch on with anyone.
So much of it revolves around disorder, though, and so much of the reaction proceeds from witnessing, as we are now, the emergent authoritarianism produced by the intersection of communications technology and collapsing democracy. When I read Nick Land, I hear this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LtS8onGBYw
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Posted on July 9th, 2013 at 12:51 am | Quote“But people from all over the world came here — from all over the world! It was the playground — they called it the ‘Playground of the World’ over here.
Anyways, you see, I . . . uh . . . you know . . . I even got — when I was very small — I even got lost at Coney Island, but they found me . . . on the . . . on the beach.
And we used to sleep on the beach here — sleep overnight. They don’t do that anymore. Things changed, you see. They don’t sleep anymore on the beach.“
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Posted on July 9th, 2013 at 1:42 am | QuoteI have always imagined Apocalyptica as the music of Reaction.
Classical Cello players who transform heavy metal into instrumental magic.
Their heavy metal chops are impeccable. Metallica’s One, transformed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JjQGt7WjK0
As for the theme song for Reaction, they have two candidates:
The melancholy and then transcendent Farewell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaLoBdqcvVY
or, the call and return moodiness of Path:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aBPF6qVjac
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 10:49 am
I need another shot of Crystal Castles after that. (Is “Doe Deer” their only track worth listening to? It’s seeming like that to me.)
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Scharlach Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:23 pm
There are a couple others, but no, most of their songs aren’t like the two I posted, unfortunately.
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If you’re looking for a reactionary anthem, I’d go for Deep Heritage.
http://borepatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/george-frederick-handel-hallelujah.html
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 4:17 am
I’m getting the sense that a reactionary anthem, and a neoreactionary anthem, are two very different beasts.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 4:25 am
Neoreactionary needs more self-awareness. [Extreme cheese warning]
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Thales Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 12:36 pm
I’m getting the sense that a reactionary anthem, and a neoreactionary anthem, are two very different beasts.
Not so fast, professor…
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 12:51 pm
Good catch (and truly brutally spliced).
Thales Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Sick Drops 4 Jesus! Very unlikely to unite the Trichotomy, however…
Really, I’m surprised by all of you. This is the Neoreactionary Anthem you’re looking for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU-rSALDwvE
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 5:19 am
Nah, we need something infinitely camper (retro-reaction).
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the lady Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:00 am
Camp. Melody (as requested by someone upthread)…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzQuYfQHFBA
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nydwracu Reply:
July 10th, 2013 at 5:51 am
Oh, if you want camp…
admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 11:00 am
My horizons are being widened further than I’m altogether comfortable with …
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Scharlach Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:47 pm
I like this. More psycho-carnival than apocalypse, but it’s workable.
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Nation of Islam?
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 5:45 am
(Wow. I’ve got a lot to give up.)
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:01 am
I have this recurring image, reminiscent of a terrible daytime film. I’m an old man being called by a ghost: ‘it’s time to go’. And it’s horrible. I feel like a little kid (‘but I’m not ready to go (yet)’. But… (Etc.) Sorry, that’s excruciating bollocks for everybody else. Milton. Soon. You know it’s also a brand of sterilising tablets? Should probably add a song.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 7:59 am
Some cosmic humour for you: the electrician is about to arrive to perform some rewiring (that’s not a metaphor). So no wi-fi again. Fucking hilarious. But I think I’ve got somewhere. I can literally just expire… (future fun).
fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 10:31 am
Or (from the other side) I am literally aspire. I’m winding down now obviously, but this needs preparation (and perhaps some tactful warnings to those whom it may concern). Godspeed. Indeed.
Does anybody want to add some Schopenhauerian gloss to this indulgence?
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Posted on July 9th, 2013 at 9:59 am | QuoteI dare anyone to come up with anything soppier.
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admin Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 11:13 am
Please no.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 11:19 am
Sickening isn’t it? Right. I’m disconnecting briefly. (Almost definitely this time).
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Scharlach Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:45 pm
Too many instruments. Analog or digital or GTFO.
😉
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One step fotrkd recovery program:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm-mBmicSIo
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Scharlach Reply:
July 9th, 2013 at 6:26 pm
Hell yes. Let’s see how long I can keep this on before the girl in the next office over starts knocking on the door.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 10th, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Do you want to recover me? Maybe when we hatched this plan you said something like but if we were just a bit more cunning… and then we peered into our glasses thinking if I had a penny for everytime I’d heard that (but it is very, very cunning – let’s mull it over a few more drinks (etc.) I’m not definite – I think I could come down there if needs be. But is that where I’m most useful?
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Thales Reply:
July 10th, 2013 at 5:49 pm
I stand mute like a torn adolescent watching his buddy line-up a bike jump over a wide ravine, fearing for his safety yet it would be so awesome if he made it!
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fotrkd Reply:
July 19th, 2013 at 2:54 pm
This best sums it up.Recovery of brain/licking of wounds has been aided by a week without the Internet. Anyway, I made a bargain (They came to take me in the night) so I think (hope?) this is a short stay of execution. Otherwise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_pf-ScT7Zg
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Posted on July 9th, 2013 at 6:32 pm | QuoteThe only other Crystal Castle songs that belong in this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEJK-MXNLsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6e4cubBASs
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Posted on July 9th, 2013 at 6:39 pm | QuoteFurther to the discussion of vaporwave/distroid as the limiting process of cybernetic alienation from recognisably human music, I would call attention to the Modern Love catalogue as exemplifying a similar trend as applied to deep house.
Demdike Stare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9i3aMLHyeY
Andy Stott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGe7b_F0S4I
and on a slightly more human note, Oneohtrix Point Never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ymbt3iTaII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fThTcbl5v2k
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Posted on July 10th, 2013 at 12:25 am | QuoteFrom the other side…
Zs: w/o post-dated nostalgia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLLNG8smqAc [New Slaves]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM-kacqcX7w [Acres of Skin]
Words via DOOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTCI_bqMi_w [Bookhead]
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Posted on July 10th, 2013 at 3:04 pm | QuoteZXZ is fairly new, but he’s got some good stuff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcYaURBGRMc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REbfgl8ulh4
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admin Reply:
July 19th, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Oh yes.
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admin Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 10:42 am
And
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admin Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 10:06 am
More ZXZ awesomeness.
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Yeah sure , like you’d ever stand face to face with a drunk and angsty Dave Cunt and call him a pussy.
I don’t think so.
BTW, the death threat business was triggered by my insistence that his all too humanist reading of Nietzsche was convincingly countered in your Thirst for Annihilation (which incidentally sounds like a great title for a death metal album).
So it was all your fault.
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admin Reply:
July 12th, 2013 at 3:04 am
Since he didn’t force you to eat your own eyeballs in front of him, he was obviously a liberal humanist (as you admit).
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After my abject failure to win support for any of my proposed universal anthems, I’m going to unilaterally and illicitly declare this as the Scottish neo-reactionary anthem (it’s got bagpipes and shit). The video is great. Charitably, it’s a ceilidh meets the velvet underground. Realistically, it’s twelve people (including the cameraman) doing some kooky dance. Either way it seems suitably reactionary.
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Posted on July 19th, 2013 at 5:55 pm | QuoteNot sure where to put this: leftist/Kenyan bitcoin perspectives.
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admin Reply:
July 20th, 2013 at 2:01 am
Extremely fascinating topic — but seriously weak story (did someone claim expenses for a trip to Kenya to write five sentences of three-quarters disengaged hipster irony?).
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fotrkd Reply:
July 20th, 2013 at 6:07 am
But isn’t that the point? If bitcoin starts to look like clean drinking water for developing countries that’s how it becomes a moral good for the left to embrace.
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admin Reply:
July 20th, 2013 at 7:01 am
My guess: They’re too addicted to government solutions to fall for that. (We’ll see.)
Nick, are you coming to twitter? And have I missed the epic argument about the nature of Time? I transitioned seamlessly from newlywed to busiest time of the year at work, so I haven’t been around much.
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admin Reply:
July 20th, 2013 at 4:38 pm
Twitter is blocked here, so it’s a hassle — but not impossible. I can imagine finding the 140-characters business quite engaging. It’s a mystery-realm to me right now though.
Congratulations and all that — has Nick B Steves started hassling you about your fertility schedule yet?
The “epic argument about the nature of Time” still impends …
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fotrkd Reply:
July 20th, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Filed earlier under Much rests on that (when I was trippin):
One further thing before I (hopefully) go: of all the innumerable things I’ve enjoyed, I’ve always taken irrational delight in your troubles with glitched computer technology. It’s strange. There are so many signs. It’s all so precise. And yet very few people can read you at all. There is some hope in that or, at least, some of me. Precision engineering. Art. Devilish humour. Homer. How to remove the creator’s stamp from his creation. We’ve been banging heads together over that one for an awfully long time…
Honestly, what I’d love an update to is this:
Who can be surprised when schizophrenics delegate the question of malfunction? It is not a matter of what is wrong with them, but of what is wrong with life, with nature, with matter, with the preuniversal cosmos. Why are sentient life forms crammed into boxes made out of lies? Why does the universe breed entire populations of prison guards? Why does it feed its broken explorers to packs of dogs? Why is the island of reality lost in an ocean of madness? It is all very confusing.
Is that too much to ask? Plus: why when discussions of Satan take place am I folding fleeces?! Resistance?
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admin Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 10:09 am
A very good friend of mine dissed that whiny bullshit at the time — and she was right.
fotrkd Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 10:24 am
To be replaced by this?
…the persistence of the Keynesian-flexifascist megastate is a kind of cosmic horror, hideously suggestive of the possibility that certain profound structures of reality are obscurely aligned with crushing tides of triumphant mindlessness.
But I take the point.
Hot topic: Milton’s first heresy – creation out of chaos; the last invention – ex nihilo?
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Posted on July 20th, 2013 at 7:54 pm | QuoteAnd now I really should sleep (not sure if this one has a xylophone solo – some of their songs do).
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Posted on July 21st, 2013 at 4:01 am | Quote@ fotrkd “But I take the point.” = massive whine-reduction, yes? It’s that “the universe doesn’t owe you a non-hell” business.
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fotrkd Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 11:17 am
Yes. But curiosity regarding the structural questions remains. That’s not an issue of being owed anything, but reaching some level of self-awareness* (with accompanying diminishing whining).
* Try to take the link as disintegrative self-deprecating humour rather than self-pity. Though it’s never good if you have to explain the joke…
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admin Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Who needs a monkey, when they could have this?
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fotrkd Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 5:42 pm
OK. Happy hunting. Here’s a final song for Mary Bennet (and sheep shearing). You can rip it apart as Road Not Taken self-justification – it may well be. (We’ll see.)
fotrkd Reply:
July 21st, 2013 at 11:06 pm
… Which is to say (ahem…) let’s sort this shit out.
…I was worried that his patience would break. I needn’t have been.
“It’s OK, he said. It’s hard. The next part is hard. It defeated me every time, every single time, for five years, but then I got it, the next step …
Original source for the quip: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353959/downfall-detroit-mark-steyn?splash=
So, late on Friday, some genius jurist struck down the bankruptcy filing. Judge Rosemarie Aquilina declared Detroit’s bankruptcy “unconstitutional” because, according to the Detroit Free Press, “the Michigan Constitution prohibits actions that will lessen the pension benefits of public employees.” Which means that, in Michigan, reality is unconstitutional.
Backup data and less impeachable source: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20130719/NEWS04/130719016/Michigan-judge-Orules-Detroit-bankruptcy-unconstitutional?nclick_check=1
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Posted on July 22nd, 2013 at 7:42 pm | QuoteElements – Lindsey Stirling (Dubstep Violin Original Song)
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admin Reply:
July 31st, 2013 at 12:01 am
(Horrible Internet woes mean high-bandwidth multimedia sensitivity is at a nadir here — but I can scarcely wait (adjust irony-meter to your personal preference)).
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Right, I’ve found it.
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Posted on August 1st, 2013 at 10:53 pm | QuoteMore narrative: a little story about a very young neo-reactionary-to-be…
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Posted on August 20th, 2013 at 10:46 pm | QuoteI’m still pushing Deep Heritage in music. If you don’t like Georg Friedrich Händel, how about Gilbert and Sullivan? A minor alteration to the Major-General’s song from The Pirates of Penzance?
“I am the very model of a modern neo-Jacobite”
http://home.earthlink.net/~peter.a.taylor/very-model.txt
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fotrkd Reply:
August 21st, 2013 at 6:11 pm
It’s not Händel deep, but how about this, given the current horror trend?
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Thales Reply:
August 21st, 2013 at 11:43 pm
“I am the very model of a modern neo-Jacobite”
What about techno-futurists?
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Girly-bop
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Posted on August 21st, 2013 at 8:56 am | QuoteFrontier people
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Posted on August 26th, 2013 at 2:26 am | Quote@fotrkd
This is more like it.
http://misc.cdbpdx.com/Guess01.mp3
Song title: Colorado
by Christopher Guest, Sean Kelly, and Tony Hendra, 1973
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Posted on August 26th, 2013 at 3:06 am | Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqGU6YuBjOc
Found this – the allegories are bountiful. It’s properly entertaining too. haha.
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Posted on September 9th, 2013 at 11:25 am | QuoteThat dam is this blog.
St Francis Dam Disaster
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Posted on September 15th, 2013 at 3:21 pm | QuoteAs admin continues his twitter sabbatical, I’ll persevere with irritating blog commentary.
(It’s in the Bible, or something.)
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admin Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 12:44 am
“As admin continues his twitter sabbatical …” — you’re wiggling your finger in a sensitive spot. The degree to which this blog doesn’t hate me (and twitter) with searing intensity is limited only by the obstacles it has encountered in becoming an autonomous, auto-evolutionary super-intelligence.
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fotrkd Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 12:55 am
Well the wiggling was to prompt a response. I’d offer to help, but cognitive limitations are.. limiting. Still confused by the twitter switch – all voice (and politics) and no exit, surely?
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fotrkd Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 1:19 am
P.S. weren’t you responsible for selecting and conditioning the ‘obstacles’?
Parnet reminds him that this corresponds to the audience, but to the “concert”, Deleuze invented the expression “pop philosophy” and “pop philosopher.” Deleuze nods, yes, that’s what he meant. Parnet continues, saying that his appearance , like Foucault’s, was something very special, his hat, his fingernails , his voice. So, she asks if Deleuze was conscious of this kind of mythification by his students around this appearance, like they had mythified Foucault. First, was he conscious of having this appearance and then of having this special voice? Deleuze says, certainly, since the voice in a course — Deleuze recalls what he said earlier: if philosophy mobilizes and treats concepts, which is a vocalization of concepts in a course, then this is normal just like there is a written style of concepts. Philosophers aren’t people who write without research into or elaboration of a style, it’s like artists, and they are artists. So a course implies that one vocalizes, even a kind of *Sprechgesang*, clearly. So, if on top of that there are mythifications — did you see his nails?, etc. — that kind of thing occurs to all professors, already even in grade school. What’s more important is the relationship between the voice and the concept. Parnet says that to make him happy, his hat was like Piaf’s little black dress, with a very precise _allure_. Deleuze responds that his point of honor resides in never having worn it for that reason, so if it produced that effect, so much the better , very good. Parent asks if that is a part of his professor’s role, and Deleuze repeats her question aloud before saying no, it’s a supplement to it. What belongs to a professor’s role is what he said earlier: prior rehearsal and inspiration within the moment, that’s the professor’s role.
Parnet says that he never wanted either a “school” , nor disciples, and this refusal of disciples corresponds to something very deep in him. Deleuze bursts out laughing at this, saying he doesn’t refuse at all, generally it works two ways: no one wants to be his disciple any more than Deleuze wanted to have any. A “school” is awful, he says, for a very simple reason: it takes too much time, one turns into an administrator. Consider philosophers who have their own “school”: the Wittgensteinians, it’s not a very lively bunch . The Heideggerians form a school: first it implies some terrible scores being settled, it implies exclusivities, it implies scheduling, an entire administration. Deleuze says he observed the rivalries between French Heideggerians led by Beaufret and the Belgian Heideggerians led by Develin , a real knife fight, abominable for Deleuze, without any interest.
Dirty Fingernails
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Posted on September 16th, 2013 at 11:51 pm | Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9GmieAEaQ&sns=em
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admin Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 1:43 am
“Still confused by the twitter switch – all voice (and politics) and no exit, surely?” — Twitter has some interesting traits — the brevity stricture most obviously. If it works well (I’m not really there yet), it should add antennae. Main reason I got involved, though, was just to find out what was going on, following twitter-driven hits on the blog back to the source. I’m taking it that you have an explicit aversion? The ‘voice / exit’ criticism escapes me though — why is twitter ‘voicier’ than a blog? (Still, I agree, this place deserves the greater share of devotion.)
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fotrkd Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 1:50 am
Nothing against twitter, just not convinced it’s the right forum for neoreaction. A blog requires searching out – itself an attempt to find some form of outside. In that way you take personal responsibility for entering the lion’s den (etc.). From what I’ve seen so far, neoreaction on twitter descends into juvenile argument with progs/lefties, essentially asserting a truer or braver world view. In twitter context it smacks of PMQs.
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admin Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 2:01 am
“Nothing against twitter, just not convinced it’s the right forum for neoreaction.” — It’s made for gnats. We should do fine there. (But I agree that arguing with progs is pointless.)
fotrkd Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 2:38 am
OK. It’s late, best end with a song. I’m not even trying now, just a tune (brief nail reference..).
Mark Warburton Reply:
September 17th, 2013 at 10:05 am
In total agreement with you, fotrkd. Couple with the fact that Haywire is actually acknowledge makes for a parodic band of reactionaries indeed. 140 characters? It’s the sunny delight of web-communication – all manic posturing and patience-free.
You guys don’t have even a smidgen of a “this is the haiku of the Internet age” thing going on?
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Posted on September 17th, 2013 at 10:20 am | QuoteDread Pirate Roberts Tribute Band
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Posted on October 5th, 2013 at 3:19 am | QuoteWhat are the non-juvenile arguments with progs/lefties?
“descends into juvenile argument with progs/lefties”
I made this mistake Friday on Obamacare. they want what they want and they want now more more all of it this right now.
I was informed that freedom is anarchy.
Not having health care is like driving with no speed limits. and so on.
Here’s non-juvenile reaction: Standing God, the Devil and Hobbes on their heads we are informed it’s better to be a slave in Hell then Free in Heaven.
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Posted on October 5th, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Quote[Forgot my Jilly Cooper] Princess Chelsea on Monarchy.
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Posted on October 8th, 2013 at 12:52 am | QuoteMore on the deep heritage front (because someone has to…): Ravel’s nostalgic tribute to Spanish aristocratic customs and sensibilities.
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Posted on October 29th, 2013 at 4:35 am | QuoteAny good?
We fired our cannon ’til the barrel melted down.
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We filled his head with cannon balls, and powdered his behind
And when we touched the powder off, the gator lost his mind.
[Needs more neo]
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Posted on November 2nd, 2013 at 1:54 am | QuoteNick, here’s music someone I know (and like very muchly) has put together. Her big influences are yourself (especially the geotrauma/k-tactics phase) and Reza N. Amazingly she’s just started putting this stuff together. In(un)human and deeply (darkly) atmospheric. Thought you’d appreciate it.
https://soundcloud.com/yoneda-lemma
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admin Reply:
November 10th, 2013 at 1:25 am
Thanks — ‘enjoyed’ that a lot.
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The Geeks Were Right.
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Posted on November 14th, 2013 at 5:47 am | QuoteJust because (we haven’t had a song in awhile and I’ve got red wine again…)
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fotrkd Reply:
December 9th, 2013 at 4:35 am
Crap… red wine fail… close thingys… a things…
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fotrkd Reply:
December 9th, 2013 at 4:52 am
Thanks
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Saturday night. And there’s really no way back (not even an inkling)?
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Posted on December 22nd, 2013 at 2:22 am | QuoteSaturday night. Is there really no way (of building) back?
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Posted on December 22nd, 2013 at 2:58 am | QuoteApparently not.
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Posted on December 22nd, 2013 at 4:19 am | QuoteWhat’s my name?
::::::Froude Dogg::::::
What I like to do?
::::::You like to hustle & ball::::::
I get up early Sunday morning and begin my mission
Brush my teeth—then I creeps to the kitchen
Cook some bacon and eggs, make some toast if there’s bread
Stash this sausage, put that fork down, then I heads
To the spot that’s hot, f*ck a fed!
I gotta boot the PC, ya heard what I said?
I’m taking penitentiary chances, dancin’ wit’ the devil
I’m in it to win it for douceur de vivre, next level…
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Posted on December 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 pm | QuoteCan we – in 2014 – murder people like this?
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Posted on January 1st, 2014 at 1:38 am | QuoteSteady, As She Goes, but some people (Sailor Augustine – I’m looking at you) weren’t paying attention and now we’ve got a mother of unlikely corrections to make. Still, what else is there to do?
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Posted on January 8th, 2014 at 2:04 pm | QuoteNote to self: the last one was a rubbish hit counter (though prolific). How about this?
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Posted on January 9th, 2014 at 12:52 am | QuoteNick – have you seen this? I’m more of a patchwork fan myself, but… wow.
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fotrkd Reply:
January 24th, 2014 at 1:56 am
P.S. (Maybe that is the patchwork in the making). I have a new – current – favourite line of yours (I know you don’t care too much for compliments, but what the hell):
Such unimagined abundances of cosmic secrecy, and such shit. (I think my present reading of it expunges the initially perceived anger (perhaps)). There is a wonderful beauty in simplicity, no?
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(Wake up!)
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Posted on April 1st, 2014 at 2:01 am | QuoteAbout time I leave my mark on this thread.
(with one of my favorites)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIyRgYLMV6I
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Wilhelm von Überlieferung Reply:
April 27th, 2014 at 6:22 am
Many a fond memory sitting around a table of friends during my youth, playing the Rifts tabletop RPG while listening to FLA and other electro-industrial bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLFV4WCLNrI
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Hurlock Reply:
April 27th, 2014 at 6:47 am
Caustic Grip may very well be the best electro-industrial album ever made.
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Time Zones
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Posted on April 21st, 2014 at 11:06 pm | QuoteRequest for a chaos patch to discuss Mike Anissimov and others’ attempts to defy entryism in a debatably comical way on Twitter…
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admin Reply:
April 27th, 2014 at 8:39 am
You’re being conspicuously reserved on the subject.
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fotrkd Reply:
April 27th, 2014 at 11:18 am
I am? I didn’t realise. It’s the Catholic-Protestant split again. Either you believe this Cathedral has lost its way so we need a radical restoration or you perceive inherent weakness in any Cathedral structure, which can only be resolved through break out. In the former case entryism is carefully managed based on selection criteria established by the existing hierarchy (the right sort of people; the right sort of sense) to maintain stability, in the latter – entry into what? – (dynamic) order is developed performatively, measured by the cracks created in the existing edifice.
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Posted on April 23rd, 2014 at 6:10 am | QuoteA catchy synthpop critique of modernity, and perhaps also a coinciding reference to Isaac Asimov’s novel with a similar name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fa8_XC9Ug4
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Posted on April 27th, 2014 at 6:32 am | Quote@ Hurlock, Wilhelm von Überlieferung — thanks for enrichment (still processing).
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Hurlock Reply:
April 27th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
I am curious about your thoughts on Front Line Assembly because a lot of people describe their music as “cyberpunk”.
With the danger of causing you a possible neural overload I also recommend this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71hFYXhvZvE
(Especially the tracks “The Blade”, “Mindphaser” and “Bio-Mechanic”)
A sample:
A war of technology
Threatens to ignite
Digital murder
The language of machines
“Mindphaser”
This is “impending human extinction accessible as a dancefloor”…
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Performing another necromancy…
…something relaxing…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRnviOWr9SM
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Posted on June 19th, 2014 at 12:29 am | QuoteDarn, kinda late now, but I wanted to mark the one year anniversary of this thread with a classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiFAQeLz4Zk
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Posted on July 8th, 2014 at 11:24 pm | Quote