DEC can keep right like it’s going, undermining the Superbrains cult of the smart, which is founded on everyone nodding faster and faster that the naked Emperor has such a sharp crease in his pants. Bankruptcy and extremely low trust helps. As God Wills It, the Superbrains decided to engage. Now they’re leading people – they’re own flock – towards Moldbugs Machiavellian analysis of USG, towards HBDs believe your lying eyes, to the Church of Biology called “game”. The Cathedral has such lost sense of itself – indeed Moldbug may have given them sense of themselves beyond “all right thinking people who aren’t insane” …such a loss of their own natures that they’re trying to play Devils Advocate when The Cathedral is The Devil . Such folly is the Hand of God.

Now if DEC is eaten, then they swallow poison.

As far as having a chance, the enemy is doing all the work, all DEC has to do is relentlessly attack their open and inane follies.

Really I’d rather defend any of Nick Land’s more outrageous wanderings than any article by Paul Krugman. Cardinal Krugman has impoverished a Billion People in their own lands, mostly middle class. And the kids of the Middle Class who see their chances are collectively ruined.

If you’re actually worried, have the next meeting near One Police Plaza, I seem to remember an after hours bar on the back side of Gold. There’s usually something reliable on Water with a Shamrock of one sort or another. Better they know you than not…

Indeed. But the Cathedral is still strong enough that any strike strong enough to take it down “With One Blow” is beyond what we can deliver, or can ever deliver. Thus, it is certain that “we’ll be eaten”

“I’m not looking for perfection. I’m just looking for a chance.”

Too bad we don’t have one.

“We don’t have 1/100,000 of the org of the Nazis in 1922. And even they failed.”

As shall we.

How does the degenerative ratchet work in religion?

Suppose that we have a mini-society with two Congregationalist churches. Toughlove Church places a heavy stigma on promiscuity, and Slutwalk Church regards free love as a sacrament. Maybe there is a third church, Forgiveness Church, that officially opposes promiscuity, but sells indulgences for $1.98 . Toughlove Church tries to promote a moral view that many find unintuitive. It’s members claim moral superiority over sluts, but the social science is in dispute, so in practice, this moral superiority is a credence good (difficult to verify), which they try to promote by trying to create an illusion of consensus. Slutwalk tries to create an illusion of consensus in the opposite direction.

These churches exist in the same society, in the same political environment. Which set of views will be more popular? It’s hard to maintain an illusion of consensus contrary to the majority opinion of society. What causes the Toughlove and Slutwalk churches to remain doctrinally distinct from one another over time? Does one have an advantage over the other in terms of their views being easier to promote? Which one, and why? If they are no longer doctrinally distinct, do they remain organizationally distinct?

There could be many controversial points of doctrine. Suppose that these churches remain organizationally and ritually distinct, and they both sometimes experiment with new doctrines, but they tend to copy the more popular doctrines from one another. What does that look like on a cladogram? Is the cladistics approach compatible with the view described by the Overton window? If not, which one is wrong?

It there are a hundred issues, the overwhelming majority of newly-formed or reformed churches are likely to go along with the majority opinion on most of these controversial issues. This includes a mixture of doctrines with historically distinct origins. How do you plot this on a cladogram?

My expectation, based on a little reading, is that more people will tend to want to join Toughlove Church than Forgiveness Church, but once they join, they will tend to drive it in the direction of becoming more like Forgiveness Church. Later, Forgiveness Church will close its doors and someone will start a new church that more closely resembles the original Toughlove Church. I don’t know how Slutwalk Church compares in this regard, but I expect it would grow and moderate like Toughlove, and then also be replaced. What is missing here?

“Doctrine” is the wrong word. Toughlove and Forgiveness churches have the same official doctrine, but something deeper is different.

The Cathedral is bringing the party to all of us, and ripping down itself in it’s present form.

They are bankrupt. Here is their money: XXYY00000000000000000000.

As they have trapped most of the world in their engine of mutually and universally assured destruction …so they think…they can behave as they like. And so they do..

They are operating also at bankrupt levels of mistrust, that is to say trust in them is also bankrupt.

A gentler reading would be extraordinarly high levels of equilibrium with very high levels of mistrust.

And this same system they both cannot back out of, and cannot stop bringing shocks to…for they all have their respective factions to pander to…the Repubs as well. They are not answering for instance to the voters, they are answering to the various factions around the Beltway and in Finance [list not all inclusive].

As to the Military and Police..these are not tools to be wielded as say NSA and the other Alphabet soups. With rare exceptions most of them take their Oaths seriously [for which we may all be thankful], if these tools could be used they already would have. Besides which the Cathedral and these groups don’t at all like or trust each other.

However I think we may have different POVs. I think – see above – chaos is inevitable.

I think the people agree, they are arming.

I think we are closer to the end of the epoch than perhaps we think or wish..and here we are at this particular tense moment…and the Cathedral has suddenly taken quite the interest in this most insolent mold growing on a previously reliable and sterile dish. They are foolish to call attention to such a dangerous development as penicillian to their own suite of rampant infections. It’s the Hand of God guiding them closer to their own destruction, which he could only more clearly demonstrate desire for with say a Bi-Coastal Earthquake or Tidal Wave. << I should mention hoping for same is not a plan.

I'm not calling for DEC to storm the barricades [????]. I'm telling you where the world is going, and would be if none of us were ever born. In short the Singularity is upon us. You would be fortunate if there are barricades to shelter behind, never mind storm.

Since I expect to be reprimanded now that Reactionaries don't want disorder…please don't bother. We don't get what we want. We all get what God and Men want.

If you want a quiet life above all you could try Canada as closest refuge. Probably safest, left wing establishment or not their even more decent than our own midwest. It might not have enough distance.

“Of course you just prescribed procrastinate until perfection.”

Not really. If you want the VXXC rebellion to start tomorrow it would be you and what army exactly? You’d still have to build that right?

Srsly dude, you didn’t even have an answer to what I said above: if tomorrow you ripped down USG there would just be a power vacuum. Unless you want chaos there would have to be something to replace it.

I’m not looking for perfection. I’m just looking for a chance. We don’t have 1/100,000 of the org of the Nazis in 1922. And even they failed, even if for contigent reasons.

Now pray for strength and courage and it comes.