Trolls, don’t let the sun set on you here.

March 28, 2016admin 11 Comments »


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  • Tentative Joiner Says:


    Somewhere in the vastness of the Internet, it is happening even now. It was once a well-kept garden of intelligent discussion, where knowledgeable and interested folk came, attracted by the high quality of speech they saw ongoing. But into this garden comes a fool, and the level of discussion drops a little–or more than a little, if the fool is very prolific in their posting. (It is worse if the fool is just articulate enough that the former inhabitants of the garden feel obliged to respond, and correct misapprehensions–for then the fool dominates conversations.)

    So the garden is tainted now, and it is less fun to play in; the old inhabitants, already invested there, will stay, but they are that much less likely to attract new blood. Or if there are new members, their quality also has gone down.

    Then another fool joins, and the two fools begin talking to each other, and at that point some of the old members, those with the highest standards and the best opportunities elsewhere, leave…

    But when the fools begin their invasion, some communities think themselves too good to use their banhammer for–gasp!–censorship.

    It is easy to be naive about the evils of censorship when you already live in a carefully kept garden. Just like it is easy to be naive about the universal virtue of unconditional nonviolent pacifism, when your country already has armed soldiers on the borders, and your city already has police. It costs you nothing to be righteous, so long as the police stay on their jobs.



    Posted on March 28th, 2016 at 5:06 pm Reply | Quote
  • Nathan Cook Says:

    Invoking this? Well, he had his five minutes and then some.


    Posted on March 28th, 2016 at 5:13 pm Reply | Quote
  • Zimriel Says:

    I don’t think I even read his comments.

    But for those who care, here’s a song:


    Posted on March 28th, 2016 at 11:57 pm Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    MS erased Tay and admin erased Cichlimbar in both cases action was the same but inclination very different


    Posted on March 29th, 2016 at 3:51 am Reply | Quote
  • Brett Stevens Says:

    I used to believe in rules for forums. Now I just believe in editors.

    Remove any content that is less than useful.

    The only trolls who were entertaining died with the GNAA (RIP).


    admin Reply:

    Sadly, there are some who find it impossible to accept even the most basic limits unless they are dramatized by a public hanging.


    Posted on March 29th, 2016 at 3:58 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    Only takes one 🖕

    One leads to two, two leads to three, and before you know it- civilizational meltdown.


    Posted on September 1st, 2019 at 6:52 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    The puzzles I post are pretty easy to think of, you just have to cross the line into ostracism to think the way I do. “Damn, I knew there had to be a catch.” It’s really a simple matter of not giving a fuck if you get ostracized, maybe that’s the cultural function I serve- letting people see what someone who is ostracized and doesn’t give a fuck thinks about things. Crossing the line has a tendency of dragging the line with you as you go. While it might not snap, it bends, and can reveal the reality of an otherwise unknown, unthinkable taboo, for rational agents to then scrutinize and independently reach their own conclusions about, rather than spasmodically designate as devil devil kill kill.


    Posted on September 29th, 2019 at 8:50 pm Reply | Quote
  • Wagner Says:

    I love to live in the cryptocene. Toomuchtruth has ontological being. Esotericism is necessary “in a society”, apparently. (I still don’t know what you mean by a society [not joking], that itself is an exoteric concept that conceals–when What do you mean by a society?? is asked, that is when its esoteric character is revealed. No one asks that, it’s unspoken that it’s esoteric and that it should remain that way.) I love playing these games. Laughing from the gallows at all times I feel like. Exotericism is an agreement on lies. Accelerationism, as I’ve always interpreted it, is an acceleration of the occidental will-to-truth. NRx is the vehicle it uses to disagree about that agreement on lies.


    Wagner Reply:

    When people say we live in a society they’re symbolically disagreeing with the agreement on lies that “society” is implied to be.

    A secession would potentially be an evolution of society itself. It seems patently obvious to me that the new patch should formally make lies illegal. This is what an *actual* society would be like. Where is that kind of sentiment in our constitution? Freedom *clause* to lie. Liberty *clause* to lie. Freedom of the press *clause* to lie. That should be within the first line of the new constitution- lies are not allowed.

    Imagine how much a state of delirium that would put the Old US in, seeing what fragmented off them make an explicit statement like this. The New US would itself have to be redacted to prevent an existential crisis.

    One has to wonder how our declaration of independence could’ve expressed this sentiment against lies when it explicitly declares the lie that all men are created equal. It’s founded on a lie itself.

    Let’s take a look at the preamble of the constitution:

    “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    So apply these concepts to the current state religion. Does equalism make for a more perfect union? Does equalism establish justice? You might say that it *does* insure tranquility. If this ideology is leading us to fall behind Russia and China one could hardly say it provides a common defence or promotes the general welfare. Etc. Etc.

    The most fundamental way to hack it from the preamble alone is to question whether “Justice” is established by untruths. Justice and lies are incompatible. See, I feel like an elementary school teacher having to say this stuff. Equalism is unconstitutional, bam, we can all go home now.


    Wagner Reply:

    “Toomuchtruth has ontological being. Esotericism is necessary “in a society”, apparently.”

    It’s been dawning on me that the nature of being itself is such that ontological awareness is permabanned from consensus-reality. This is how it’s always been probably. Priest-types would speak out of earshot amongst themselves. The internet hasn’t really changed that. Most of the subtweets about the goings-on here are refracted through the prevailing trash-culture and if they’re not directly inverted their being is infused with 2/3 nothingness. Hey at least *something* gets snuck into the “Just” City. We’re all playing 21st century religious games and we don’t even know it.


    Posted on October 24th, 2019 at 9:17 pm Reply | Quote

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