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Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by SanguineEmpiricist

SanguineEmpiricist — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 04:40:12 +0000

This is the best comment ever.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by Aeroguy

Aeroguy — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 04:14:34 +0000

Fusion has always been 10 years away (though the rumors coming out of Lockheed are that this time it really will be 10 years). In the meantime you have to pretend to do something about the terrorists and you have soldiers who don’t know it’s pretend (populist opinion management only) because for them it’s very very real. Destabilizing the region was our own doing on purpose, but yes the oil must flow and ISIS does keep the oil flowing, the Kurtz types make sure of it. USG does have Kurtz types populating the ranks of the foreign policy establishment (who are insulated from, occasionally compete with, and are currently allied with the Cathedral), their sole objective, maintain the dominance of USG which by extension maintains their own dominance. They consider ISIS useful. My hope is that our ideas are as infectious as advertised and penetrate those men.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by Matt

Matt — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 03:15:16 +0000

Civilization bottles up male aggression and then torments masculine sensibilities so that they can be unleashed in war or other manipulated hysterias. And, yes “hysteria” is the proper term for this distorted masculine behavior as it is a form of parasitic castration — males so castrated have been, in fact, feminized including macho warrior types. The big problem with Western civilization at present is it has bought its own material about “sexism” and can’t deal rationally with the primordial contract between males and civilization that removes from men their independence as killers in exchange for provision of group territorial defense. The “borderless” religion of Western elites takes the ordinary torment to which males are subject as part of civilized hysteria, and compounds it with ineffectual manipulation. Organizations like ISIS feed on this — the more vicious and violent, the better the marketing and the more followers — fanatical followers — they attract out of this denied masculine hysteria of the West.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by Izak

Izak — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 03:14:27 +0000

I doubt anyone here really needs any more training on killing their own inner-universalist.

Hell, I killed my inner-universalist so damn dead that I’m about to believe in universalism from a totally relativistic standpoint.

Comment on Against Democracy by Bob

Bob — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 03:02:18 +0000

Where did I suggest that it dematerializes it? Obviously positing culture as simply an extended phenotype materializes it in material pieces of deoxyribonucleic acid.

And doing so does imply that the traditional, common understanding of culture is an illusion since this understanding posits that culture is extra-genetic, non-material, freely determined, etc. This understanding distinguishes between culture and beaver dam building or any other aspect of animal ethology.

I don’t see how “stochastic” phenotypic expression is relevant here, since it still implies a genetic determinism at odds with traditional common understandings of culture.

Comment on Cold Water by Aeroguy

Aeroguy — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 02:45:53 +0000

Demotism IS the problem. NS is just a competing flavor of Demotism NS proposes merely to exchange the populist leaders at the top thinking they’ll be better. Little do they know, the problem with populism isn’t that the leaders don’t do a good enough job serving the wants (manipulated or genuine) of their people, the problem is that populist leaders don’t do a good enough job serving the demands of Gnon. Trying to subordinate Gnon’s will to your own desires (rebelling against Gnon) is what causes problems. My problem with identitarians is that they have a habit of refusing to subject their identity before the will of Gnon, handicapping their ability to compete, doomed to eventually be out-competed, their goal of immortality is thus impossible.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by OblivionKnight_

OblivionKnight_ — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:58:31 +0000

We’re never going to out-barbarize the Arabs (or the Russians for that matter). Blood-eagling a few jihadi’s seems attractive from the vantage point of a western living room only. Laying aside the smell, mess and general unsavouriness it probably wouldn’t generate constructive results (the only constructive result = Islam’s annihilation)
Surely this would be better achieved by huge investment in fuel cell and/or fusion research? No requirement for oil and attendant cutting off of the only significant cash flow to arabs would be the equivalent of lighting a torch and throwing it into that festering cesspool of dysgenics east of the Mediterranean.
Then order a suitably pork-infused pizza, grab a beer and watch the barbarians go full auto-genocide. Capitalism, you gotta love it.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by admin

admin — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:45:47 +0000

The Islamic State is betting that they’re not up against Kurtz, and they’re almost certainly right.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by NRx_N00B

NRx_N00B — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:23:27 +0000

Anyone with the remotest possibility of being captured by these guys needs to carry cyanide capsules—one way to kill their satisfaction, not to mention their little movie/propaganda productions.

Comment on The Islamic Vortex (Note-4) by soapjackal

soapjackal — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 01:21:46 +0000

Kurtz is not wrong and any confusion I’m seeing seems to be that Land misused the quote. Sorta strange that there’s zero mention of Jordans Response to their pilot getting burned, quick and decisive hanging of prisoners, or no mention of the Mexican Cartels who regularly stuff tires onto people and light them on fire. Equally horrifying

Its worth it to actually watch the whole movie but its necessary to at least watch the monolouge instead of reading it if you have never seen it before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHrcD87aOCw

For those who havent seen this movie its about the Vietnam conflict and a soldier sent to assassinate a Colonel gone rouge. The Colonel, Kurtz, is insane but primarily he has left the military because he doesnt think they are capable of handling Vietnam and are just wasting dollars and lives over there.

Before I talk about Kurtz lemme introduce you to Max Boot and his theories of geurilla warfare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7ah26QEdUI

Max Boot has a few key points I would like to quickly address but the video is well worth watching. First almost all conflict the Human Race has known as been geurilla in nature. Traditional Warfare is anything but. The United States is very good in arenas of Traditional Warfare but that is not the warfare we are being offered. The enemies of the US are not imbeciles. They know better than to give the US a war they want. The Media prevents any liberal democracy from being able to fight geurilla warfare in any effective manner. Finally the US military is doing nothing to prepare for the fact that geurilla warfare is the new standard going forward.

So what was Kurtz talking about? Its not clear which ethnic group he is referring to but it can be inferred it was a ‘friendly’ village somewhere in SE asia near Vietnam. These people quickly cut off the arms of their own children to prevent the inoculation. This wasnt the burning of an enemy POW. This was cutting off the arms of their children.

Why do you think Kurtz described his behavior as ‘crying like a grandmother’ or how he ‘wanted to pull my teeth out’? For that is horror. Its not just the raw suffering of life or the trautmatic act of burning a man to death. Its the horror of mutilitating your own children. The reasoning why such an act was done has not been detailed but it is fairly easy to compare this to African Tribes who believe Western medicine is actually a poision for the souls of their people.

Kurtz as he wrangles with the inhuman terror of beholding a pile of childrens arms he himself inoculated comes to a moment of clarity.

“And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it … I never want to forget. And then I realized … like I was shot … like I was shot with a diamond … a diamond bullet right through my forehead. ”

Hell of a red pill eh? Diamantgeschoss is now my new favorite term.

He realized what would happen if you ‘made horror an ally':

“And I thought, my God … the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that”

These were men who could internalize suffering and ACT without hesitation to do what was necessary. This is not a quality that describes the Men of the West. In vietnam traditional tactics would leave the army open to defeat as they would not be psychologically capable of doing what was necessary.

Near the end of the movie the main character sees Col.Kurtz typed log for the military and about a third of the way through that scribbled in red pen is the message:

“Drop the BOMB EXTERMINATE Them All!”

http://cl.ly/image/0m08201b0h31

Which seems to frame the whole monolouge as Kurtz trying to come to terms with the necessary strategic choices in order to win the vietnam conflict. Trying to come to terms with the cost. Which seems to be reflected the second to the last bit:

“You have to have men who are moral … and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling … without passion … without judgment … without judgment! Because it’s judgment that defeats us.”

Moral Men who do not Hesitate to do whats necessary.

That doesnt sound paticulary like Terrorists. No. Like SanguineEmpiricist pointed out thats more like what Taleb said Russias response was to terrorism. Some terrorists kidnapped some russian nationals and killed them.

The Russians didnt kill the terrorists.

Instead they kidnapped 10 relatives of the terrorists and sent them to the terrorists.

Piece by piece.

Without any hesitation. It was just the natural result of such a ploy. Given the general attitude terrorists have towards russia now I would say that it was pretty necessary.

The west is not well acquaninted enough with horror and suffering anymore to understand what is necessary. These are not Moral Men who act without judgment. Instead we have immoral men on both sides who spend almost all of their time judging. Our entire media complexes involvement in war seems to be about judging things without taking action.

The arabs are slightly more acquanited with this horror but the arabs have an interesting relationship with islam. Islam is a unifying holistic structure for the arab peoples that has a centeral tenet: war. They are constantly at war at their borders and the only endstate is when islam dominantes the planet. This is not a conflict of moral men that are not judging. They are determing a total genocidal end state which isnt very plausible to be what ‘is necessary’ and sending angry muslim boys at it. Geurilla warfare is effective but just because you dont follow the geneva convention doesnt mean youre the type of soldier col. kurtz would want.

At the end of the day I very much doubt that the West or the Arabs have the men that Col. Kurtz would use but its only that type of man that will triumph in these conflicts. Not conventional warfare.

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