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		<title>By: Social Conservatism and Drawing a Line in the Sand &#124; More Right</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-59052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Social Conservatism and Drawing a Line in the Sand &#124; More Right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2014 13:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] It reminds me of that time when Nick Land got excited that Justin Tunney told his followers to go read Moldbug, and the legendary neoreactionary commenter &#8220;Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Whirling Aluminum [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] It reminds me of that time when Nick Land got excited that Justin Tunney told his followers to go read Moldbug, and the legendary neoreactionary commenter &#8220;Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Whirling Aluminum [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Aquatard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-45378</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquatard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 04:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Total poseur—I wish she’d just stfu and stop tweeting already. Wait—would the cathedral ever roast a gelding on the spit?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total poseur—I wish she’d just stfu and stop tweeting already. Wait—would the cathedral ever roast a gelding on the spit?!</p>
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		<title>By: lilith</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-45372</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 04:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It leads here:
 https://vimeo.com/5841178]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It leads here:<br />
 <a href="https://vimeo.com/5841178" rel="nofollow">https://vimeo.com/5841178</a></p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-45284</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 23:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly.  And it wouldn&#039;t even have to be disintegration.
A single hotel conglomerate runs many tiers of different hotel experience, and there&#039;s no reason a single governance corporation couldn&#039;t successfully run a multitude of little polities according the rules that maximize the welfare of their respective inhabitants.

What SHWAT misses is this idea that the elites have to either believe in or like the products they are selling - that is, communities dedicated to particular visions of life (which I call &#039;zions&#039;).  As if when neocameralist managers get control, they will just obey their own progressive preferences even if those are at odds with the needs and wants of their residents.  It&#039;s not true, every deviation is money they are leaving on the table for a competitor to pick up.  It&#039;s the race to the bottom of ideological distortions.

The management of most mass-market consumer products companies never partake in their own output, and may even find it disgusting and revolting, but who cares?  Their job is to satisfy their customers, and at doing that, they are demonstrably excellent even when they have zero appreciation for what they are producing, or zero similarity between themselves and their typical consumer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  And it wouldn&#8217;t even have to be disintegration.<br />
A single hotel conglomerate runs many tiers of different hotel experience, and there&#8217;s no reason a single governance corporation couldn&#8217;t successfully run a multitude of little polities according the rules that maximize the welfare of their respective inhabitants.</p>
<p>What SHWAT misses is this idea that the elites have to either believe in or like the products they are selling &#8211; that is, communities dedicated to particular visions of life (which I call &#8216;zions&#8217;).  As if when neocameralist managers get control, they will just obey their own progressive preferences even if those are at odds with the needs and wants of their residents.  It&#8217;s not true, every deviation is money they are leaving on the table for a competitor to pick up.  It&#8217;s the race to the bottom of ideological distortions.</p>
<p>The management of most mass-market consumer products companies never partake in their own output, and may even find it disgusting and revolting, but who cares?  Their job is to satisfy their customers, and at doing that, they are demonstrably excellent even when they have zero appreciation for what they are producing, or zero similarity between themselves and their typical consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilhelm von Überlieferung</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 14:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely distilled thoughts on this matter, and ones I agree with.

We haven&#039;t fully entered the final act of &quot;Enlightenment&quot; civilization, although the curtain may be half raised.

Instead of Neo-Cameralism emerging from the ashes of modernity to usher in a new beginning, it most likely would be consumed as a halmark of a Neo-Ceaserism to reign over the dying empire, before the whole thing sinks into the abyss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely distilled thoughts on this matter, and ones I agree with.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t fully entered the final act of &#8220;Enlightenment&#8221; civilization, although the curtain may be half raised.</p>
<p>Instead of Neo-Cameralism emerging from the ashes of modernity to usher in a new beginning, it most likely would be consumed as a halmark of a Neo-Ceaserism to reign over the dying empire, before the whole thing sinks into the abyss.</p>
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		<title>By: MW</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-45075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 13:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Saddam Hussein&#039;s Whirling Aluminium Tubes&lt;/strong&gt;

Lesser Bull raises a very good point:

1. The only way to save liberal modernity is to acknowledge HBD. 
2. The only way to save HBD is to make sure that it&#039;s not solely the province of WNs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Whirling Aluminium Tubes</strong></p>
<p>Lesser Bull raises a very good point:</p>
<p>1. The only way to save liberal modernity is to acknowledge HBD.<br />
2. The only way to save HBD is to make sure that it&#8217;s not solely the province of WNs.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-45061</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 13:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why wouldn&#039;t negotiated territorial disintegration deal with all of these NRx fission issues? At the level of poly-secessionism, I&#039;m not at all seeing where the problems are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t negotiated territorial disintegration deal with all of these NRx fission issues? At the level of poly-secessionism, I&#8217;m not at all seeing where the problems are.</p>
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		<title>By: Izak</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-44911</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 04:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Saddam etc

Thank you so very much for taking the time to write out pretty much my exact viewpoint on neocameralism to a tee. And with far better wording and argumentation than I could be bothered to provide.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Saddam etc</p>
<p>Thank you so very much for taking the time to write out pretty much my exact viewpoint on neocameralism to a tee. And with far better wording and argumentation than I could be bothered to provide.</p>
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		<title>By: nyan_sandwich</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-44878</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 03:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok you win. I&#039;m convinced.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok you win. I&#8217;m convinced.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammi</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/crossing-the-line/#comment-44800</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tammi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 00:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This actually has me thinking. 

Why don&#039;t we all become women so we can do better in this economy? Everyone loves a woman who knows how to code. It&#039;s instant millionaire status.

That&#039;s probably why Justine did it. We should follow her lead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This actually has me thinking. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we all become women so we can do better in this economy? Everyone loves a woman who knows how to code. It&#8217;s instant millionaire status.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably why Justine did it. We should follow her lead.</p>
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