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		<title>By: Outside in - Involvements with reality &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Chaos</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Outside in - Involvements with reality &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On Chaos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] bad government, which is to say with defective mechanisms of selection, is an inability to follow Cthulhu far enough. It is from turbulence that all things [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] bad government, which is to say with defective mechanisms of selection, is an inability to follow Cthulhu far enough. It is from turbulence that all things [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-78</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That paper looks fascinating, but it&#039;s going to take a few hours of devoted attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That paper looks fascinating, but it&#8217;s going to take a few hours of devoted attention.</p>
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		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-76</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Input a sample X—econometric distribution, probability space, etc.—from a simulated (or replication of, to invert extropic &#039;phenomena&#039;) model of e.g. (local? to stay on &#039;our scale&#039;, for now) heat-death, population extinction, inert atmospheres, etc. Once input, Sample X, following Gotelli &amp; Graves/McGill, may generate Y stochastic variance (or none at all) *in/from the absence of* e.g. utility valuation, energy conservation, temporal/dynamic fluctuation, etc. In other words, X distributed from the modeling of dynamical (or whatever) foreclosure—which would dissipate scaling mechanisms commensurable w/ &#039;us&#039;—while sampling from systems which participate with &quot;our stratum&quot;. 

Such modeling may have trivial effects on these systems, but this triviality may be very apt, &#039;in light of&#039; events which promise/d, on the level of numeracy etc, where the end has nothing else to conserve, and &quot;we&quot; have &#039;been there&#039; for awhile...

Also rather apt considering your recent post on &quot;inaction&quot; (without the logos)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Input a sample X—econometric distribution, probability space, etc.—from a simulated (or replication of, to invert extropic &#8216;phenomena&#8217;) model of e.g. (local? to stay on &#8216;our scale&#8217;, for now) heat-death, population extinction, inert atmospheres, etc. Once input, Sample X, following Gotelli &amp; Graves/McGill, may generate Y stochastic variance (or none at all) *in/from the absence of* e.g. utility valuation, energy conservation, temporal/dynamic fluctuation, etc. In other words, X distributed from the modeling of dynamical (or whatever) foreclosure—which would dissipate scaling mechanisms commensurable w/ &#8216;us&#8217;—while sampling from systems which participate with &#8220;our stratum&#8221;. </p>
<p>Such modeling may have trivial effects on these systems, but this triviality may be very apt, &#8216;in light of&#8217; events which promise/d, on the level of numeracy etc, where the end has nothing else to conserve, and &#8220;we&#8221; have &#8216;been there&#8217; for awhile&#8230;</p>
<p>Also rather apt considering your recent post on &#8220;inaction&#8221; (without the logos)?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-74</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: r</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-70</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.uvm.edu/~ngotelli/manuscriptpdfs/gotelli_mcgill_ecography.pdf

Gotelli, N. J. and Graves, G. R. 1996. Null models in ecology. ]]></description>
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<p>Gotelli, N. J. and Graves, G. R. 1996. Null models in ecology. </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-63</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Tic(k)
Any chance of a few more clues?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tic(k)<br />
Any chance of a few more clues?</p>
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		<title>By: tic(k)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-60</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@admin&lt;/strong&gt; okay, agreed on a commensurability criterion for terminal engagement. I personally remain unsure with regard to &#039;insurrection&#039; as a plot-point for the modeling of (ontological, anthropogenic, etc) foreclosure, insofar as *utility* may remain a confounding variable when it comes to effectuating noise on a stratum dependent on such valuation (unless it isn&#039;t, of course, and I&#039;m oversimplifying). Perhaps such a terminal model would contingency model inputs—quantities—from a sample of utility functions, in order to simulate the sample &#039;under&#039; radically depleted energy conditions. A simple example would be a simple heat-death modelling of econometric probability sets, if we&#039;re still on thermodynamics. Null results, maybe, but without determinism insofar as the model has no end (since it may pattern from &#039;end&#039;)? I don&#039;t know. Also the &#039;dynamics&#039; of the inputs could be retained, maybe. &#039;no problem&#039;. cf. a radicalization of Gotelli &amp; Graves, et al.  &quot;The set of all ordinals doesn&#039;t exist.&quot; also remember the nietzschean/deleuzean polemics of quantitative analysis without qualitative differentiation (&quot;lifeless, dead&quot;)? If the &#039;hype&#039; of &quot;the end of the end ...&quot; has already &#039;maxed out&#039;, what do we do next? there&#039;s nothing for us to do... that&#039;s where we may start? maybe not...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@admin</strong> okay, agreed on a commensurability criterion for terminal engagement. I personally remain unsure with regard to &#8216;insurrection&#8217; as a plot-point for the modeling of (ontological, anthropogenic, etc) foreclosure, insofar as *utility* may remain a confounding variable when it comes to effectuating noise on a stratum dependent on such valuation (unless it isn&#8217;t, of course, and I&#8217;m oversimplifying). Perhaps such a terminal model would contingency model inputs—quantities—from a sample of utility functions, in order to simulate the sample &#8216;under&#8217; radically depleted energy conditions. A simple example would be a simple heat-death modelling of econometric probability sets, if we&#8217;re still on thermodynamics. Null results, maybe, but without determinism insofar as the model has no end (since it may pattern from &#8216;end&#8217;)? I don&#8217;t know. Also the &#8216;dynamics&#8217; of the inputs could be retained, maybe. &#8216;no problem&#8217;. cf. a radicalization of Gotelli &amp; Graves, et al.  &#8220;The set of all ordinals doesn&#8217;t exist.&#8221; also remember the nietzschean/deleuzean polemics of quantitative analysis without qualitative differentiation (&#8220;lifeless, dead&#8221;)? If the &#8216;hype&#8217; of &#8220;the end of the end &#8230;&#8221; has already &#8216;maxed out&#8217;, what do we do next? there&#8217;s nothing for us to do&#8230; that&#8217;s where we may start? maybe not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-59</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Tic(k)
Unless &#039;something&#039; is commensurable with &#039;our&#039; stratum, it has no relevance to the question of terminal insurgency (which K-virus was raising (brewing?)).  
&quot;installed by whom?&quot; -- wrong question. The (time-travel) Bootstrap Paradox is the route to the right ones. 

@ K-virus
If you want to scramble the anthropomorphic stratum, you need something that gets down and dirty with us. If not, enjoy your gnostic religion. 
&#039;Entropy&#039; -- sure -- but that category is a little too general for our purposes here, isn&#039;t it? How does the machine work? How does it engage? 

IMHO, you insurrectionary nihilist religion cats need more economics. Go Austrian. You can always twist it into something acceptably blasphemous later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tic(k)<br />
Unless &#8216;something&#8217; is commensurable with &#8216;our&#8217; stratum, it has no relevance to the question of terminal insurgency (which K-virus was raising (brewing?)).<br />
&#8220;installed by whom?&#8221; &#8212; wrong question. The (time-travel) Bootstrap Paradox is the route to the right ones. </p>
<p>@ K-virus<br />
If you want to scramble the anthropomorphic stratum, you need something that gets down and dirty with us. If not, enjoy your gnostic religion.<br />
&#8216;Entropy&#8217; &#8212; sure &#8212; but that category is a little too general for our purposes here, isn&#8217;t it? How does the machine work? How does it engage? </p>
<p>IMHO, you insurrectionary nihilist religion cats need more economics. Go Austrian. You can always twist it into something acceptably blasphemous later.</p>
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		<title>By: k-virus</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-58</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps that poster on alt.horror.cthulhu was wrong, then, because to think Azathoth would need such anthropocentric structure to spread chaos (even inside human-security-systems) seems ludicrous to me. 

Maybe entropy is tied to Azathoth, then, as that motor-towards-chaos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps that poster on alt.horror.cthulhu was wrong, then, because to think Azathoth would need such anthropocentric structure to spread chaos (even inside human-security-systems) seems ludicrous to me. </p>
<p>Maybe entropy is tied to Azathoth, then, as that motor-towards-chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: tic(k)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/cthulhu-leftist/#comment-57</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@admin&lt;/strong&gt;aw, man. since when is the noumenal strata of the Outside commensurable w/ the causal framework of &#039;techno-commercialism&#039;? if the material base of the Outside is &quot;beyond insurrectionary group dynamics&quot;, and thus operates on a level that no temporality (or scale of momentum) can assess, how can such a motor (a quantity) engage w/ that which remains foreclosed to magnitude, desisting from &#039;our&#039; cosmology? what does this have to do with us? installed by whom? once magnitude is depleted or stripped, X may be closer, on a &#039;singular&#039; level, to that which claims the strata &#039;we&#039; are operating from...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@admin</strong>aw, man. since when is the noumenal strata of the Outside commensurable w/ the causal framework of &#8216;techno-commercialism&#8217;? if the material base of the Outside is &#8220;beyond insurrectionary group dynamics&#8221;, and thus operates on a level that no temporality (or scale of momentum) can assess, how can such a motor (a quantity) engage w/ that which remains foreclosed to magnitude, desisting from &#8216;our&#8217; cosmology? what does this have to do with us? installed by whom? once magnitude is depleted or stripped, X may be closer, on a &#8216;singular&#8217; level, to that which claims the strata &#8216;we&#8217; are operating from&#8230;</p>
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