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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26313</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@VXXC&lt;/strong&gt;

LOL.  The Aliens like Gaia are the search for that which they dare not name; GOD.

Which in the case of Gaia and the Cylons is you notice instantly and atavistic monotheistic.  

We rose to the Greatness we squander prior to the notion never mind existence of IQ tests.  If you measure all nations including America the IQ test fails us all.

As it&#039;s intended to, measuring a people by their Intellectual Qu-formity means they all fall short and clearly need more rule of the smart, which increases their power and wealth.  IQ tests are the Oath of Confirmation and First Communion for the Cathedral.  
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BTW since we don&#039;t have capitalism, can we abandon the unnatural forbearance it requires?  It is unnatural to let another rob you armed with mere scraps of paper.  

In fact the forbearance is unnatural across the board.  

This means of course Moldbug&#039;s counsel of forbearance is Unnatural.  

Chun linn Gaeilge nathracha a scrios.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@VXXC</strong></p>
<p>LOL.  The Aliens like Gaia are the search for that which they dare not name; GOD.</p>
<p>Which in the case of Gaia and the Cylons is you notice instantly and atavistic monotheistic.  </p>
<p>We rose to the Greatness we squander prior to the notion never mind existence of IQ tests.  If you measure all nations including America the IQ test fails us all.</p>
<p>As it&#8217;s intended to, measuring a people by their Intellectual Qu-formity means they all fall short and clearly need more rule of the smart, which increases their power and wealth.  IQ tests are the Oath of Confirmation and First Communion for the Cathedral.<br />
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BTW since we don&#8217;t have capitalism, can we abandon the unnatural forbearance it requires?  It is unnatural to let another rob you armed with mere scraps of paper.  </p>
<p>In fact the forbearance is unnatural across the board.  </p>
<p>This means of course Moldbug&#8217;s counsel of forbearance is Unnatural.  </p>
<p>Chun linn Gaeilge nathracha a scrios.</p>
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		<title>By: Saddam Hussein's Whirling Aluminium Tubes</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26279</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 23:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s both.

Populations with IQs that are too low tend to struggle to implement technological civilization, even when the blueprint is provided for them. Just look at Richard Lynn&#039;s country by country IQ scores, the pattern couldn&#039;t be more obvious. Yemen isn&#039;t taking us to space anytime soon.

On the other hand, high IQ populations may not be able to maintain the technological civilizations that they&#039;ve built, as they become trapped in sophisticated ideological constructs of their own making and allow clever sillies to take power.

Maybe this is what happened to the aliens that were supposed to show up but never did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s both.</p>
<p>Populations with IQs that are too low tend to struggle to implement technological civilization, even when the blueprint is provided for them. Just look at Richard Lynn&#8217;s country by country IQ scores, the pattern couldn&#8217;t be more obvious. Yemen isn&#8217;t taking us to space anytime soon.</p>
<p>On the other hand, high IQ populations may not be able to maintain the technological civilizations that they&#8217;ve built, as they become trapped in sophisticated ideological constructs of their own making and allow clever sillies to take power.</p>
<p>Maybe this is what happened to the aliens that were supposed to show up but never did.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26268</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 17:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IQ.  IQ.  IQ.  

NO.  NO.  NO.

Please explain the relationship of IQ and civilizations building and rising. [It&#039;s inverted].  I can certainly make the case for IQ as a result of education, and education being a result of the excess spoil civilizations toil brings.  I can also make a case that rule of the smart is destroying civilization - and the precious IQ with it:  www.drudgereport.com.   

The Prosecution could rest with that link.  

The Cathedrals were built by civilizations - yes - that did not understand Division.  If you had asked more than 5 people in Europe what 15/3 was they would have stared at you.  For a moment...before they went back to work. 

The Aqueducts, Pyramids, Roman Roads - Rules of Thumb.  These edifices stand.

Americas greatest genius was commerce and capital, not brainiacs.  The only Brainiac colonists were the Puritans.  How&#039;s that working for us?

You couldn&#039;t run a lemonade stand, although you think it smart to ban them.   Your smartest buildings...melt their neighbors with reflected sunlight.

Our money [gag] requires a PhD to explain.  It&#039;s a lie.   But it&#039;s smart. 

Nothing built by the rule of the smart will endure.  You had nothing to do with our rise, ye are the masters of our fall.  This is all you can or ever will master.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IQ.  IQ.  IQ.  </p>
<p>NO.  NO.  NO.</p>
<p>Please explain the relationship of IQ and civilizations building and rising. [It&#8217;s inverted].  I can certainly make the case for IQ as a result of education, and education being a result of the excess spoil civilizations toil brings.  I can also make a case that rule of the smart is destroying civilization &#8211; and the precious IQ with it:  <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.drudgereport.com</a>.   </p>
<p>The Prosecution could rest with that link.  </p>
<p>The Cathedrals were built by civilizations &#8211; yes &#8211; that did not understand Division.  If you had asked more than 5 people in Europe what 15/3 was they would have stared at you.  For a moment&#8230;before they went back to work. </p>
<p>The Aqueducts, Pyramids, Roman Roads &#8211; Rules of Thumb.  These edifices stand.</p>
<p>Americas greatest genius was commerce and capital, not brainiacs.  The only Brainiac colonists were the Puritans.  How&#8217;s that working for us?</p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t run a lemonade stand, although you think it smart to ban them.   Your smartest buildings&#8230;melt their neighbors with reflected sunlight.</p>
<p>Our money [gag] requires a PhD to explain.  It&#8217;s a lie.   But it&#8217;s smart. </p>
<p>Nothing built by the rule of the smart will endure.  You had nothing to do with our rise, ye are the masters of our fall.  This is all you can or ever will master.</p>
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		<title>By: nydwracu</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26265</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 16:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The Techno-commercial ‘thing’ — catallaxy — is comparably invulnerable. There is no chance that anyone, ever, will successfully prohibit the market, or the associated dynamics of competitive technical advantage (which together compose real capitalism).&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The techno-commercial thing requires the continued existence of several fragile factors: IQ, a certain degree of outbreeding / shortness of social ties (one of the reasons Africa has had such trouble technocommercializing, as the professor in Moldbug&#039;s instructive story pointed out, is that their social ties are too long and too many -- I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a coincidence that the break into sustained technological progress came from the Germanics), a society not too crystallized to continually break and re-form parts of itself, the right social institutions, the right value system, and so on. If &lt;i&gt;any one of these components&lt;/i&gt; fails everywhere (i.e. everywhere with sufficiently high intelligence to sustain it), all is lost until it redevelops.

And even if the thing continues to exist... well, &lt;i&gt;where?&lt;/i&gt; The unfortunate necessity of politics arises from the drive to protect &lt;i&gt;one&#039;s own civilization&lt;/i&gt; from imploding into a dark age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Techno-commercial ‘thing’ — catallaxy — is comparably invulnerable. There is no chance that anyone, ever, will successfully prohibit the market, or the associated dynamics of competitive technical advantage (which together compose real capitalism).</p></blockquote>
<p>The techno-commercial thing requires the continued existence of several fragile factors: IQ, a certain degree of outbreeding / shortness of social ties (one of the reasons Africa has had such trouble technocommercializing, as the professor in Moldbug&#8217;s instructive story pointed out, is that their social ties are too long and too many &#8212; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a coincidence that the break into sustained technological progress came from the Germanics), a society not too crystallized to continually break and re-form parts of itself, the right social institutions, the right value system, and so on. If <i>any one of these components</i> fails everywhere (i.e. everywhere with sufficiently high intelligence to sustain it), all is lost until it redevelops.</p>
<p>And even if the thing continues to exist&#8230; well, <i>where?</i> The unfortunate necessity of politics arises from the drive to protect <i>one&#8217;s own civilization</i> from imploding into a dark age.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 21:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Capitalism and socialism are both unnatural, but in different ways.  Socialism is natural for families, but not for large groups of strangers.  If you try to scale it up, you get disasters like the Soviet agricultural system.  Capitalism scales up well, but it requires an unnatural forbearance from the use of force.  This forbearance is consistent enough with people&#039;s innate psychological predispositions to be feasible, but it depends on on some highly evolved institutions (Deep Heritage).

The socialists don&#039;t have to set up functional alternatives to this Deep Heritage in order to win.  All they have to do is undermine the old system and let the rationalization hamster run.  So yes, on one level, reality is on our side, but this advantage is very fragile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism and socialism are both unnatural, but in different ways.  Socialism is natural for families, but not for large groups of strangers.  If you try to scale it up, you get disasters like the Soviet agricultural system.  Capitalism scales up well, but it requires an unnatural forbearance from the use of force.  This forbearance is consistent enough with people&#8217;s innate psychological predispositions to be feasible, but it depends on on some highly evolved institutions (Deep Heritage).</p>
<p>The socialists don&#8217;t have to set up functional alternatives to this Deep Heritage in order to win.  All they have to do is undermine the old system and let the rationalization hamster run.  So yes, on one level, reality is on our side, but this advantage is very fragile.</p>
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		<title>By: Grotto</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26194</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2013 17:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This line of thinking has parallels to Taoist philosophy. Neoreaction seeks to conform human societies to existing, immutable “propensities” that already exist in the natural world, whether it be the divine will of a sovereign God, Darwinian human biodiversity, or the irresistible self-organizing, self-reinforcing logic of capitalism. The basic argument is that societal peace and prosperity and individual well-being will be maximized if the design of the society has minimal conflict with the underlying bedrock of human nature. 

Progressivism, on the other hand, is an artificial project. It has a goal in mind – an atomized egalitarian individualism – and seeks to bend reality, at great cost, to accomplish its goal. Like an architect seeking to defy gravity, the resulting structure is fundamentally fragile. It may stand, brilliantly and beautifully, for decades or even centuries, but the points-of-failure are too many, and eventually a rusting cable will snap, or a cracking column will give way. The whole thing requires constant tireless care and maintenance and could never last for long. 

Contrast that with the conservative solidity of the pyramids, which stand tall, despite millenia of neglect. As they should – as man-made imitations of mountains, they should should have similar longevity. Therefore we should not despair, as these progressive aberrations against the natural order cannot last for long. The pity is that we must suffer along with them when their rebellious buildings collapse.

Like the Taoists, we seek to work with the natural order, not in defiance against it. This is our primary advantage - reality is on our side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This line of thinking has parallels to Taoist philosophy. Neoreaction seeks to conform human societies to existing, immutable “propensities” that already exist in the natural world, whether it be the divine will of a sovereign God, Darwinian human biodiversity, or the irresistible self-organizing, self-reinforcing logic of capitalism. The basic argument is that societal peace and prosperity and individual well-being will be maximized if the design of the society has minimal conflict with the underlying bedrock of human nature. </p>
<p>Progressivism, on the other hand, is an artificial project. It has a goal in mind – an atomized egalitarian individualism – and seeks to bend reality, at great cost, to accomplish its goal. Like an architect seeking to defy gravity, the resulting structure is fundamentally fragile. It may stand, brilliantly and beautifully, for decades or even centuries, but the points-of-failure are too many, and eventually a rusting cable will snap, or a cracking column will give way. The whole thing requires constant tireless care and maintenance and could never last for long. </p>
<p>Contrast that with the conservative solidity of the pyramids, which stand tall, despite millenia of neglect. As they should – as man-made imitations of mountains, they should should have similar longevity. Therefore we should not despair, as these progressive aberrations against the natural order cannot last for long. The pity is that we must suffer along with them when their rebellious buildings collapse.</p>
<p>Like the Taoists, we seek to work with the natural order, not in defiance against it. This is our primary advantage &#8211; reality is on our side.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The answer to all our money and wealth problems is I say Quantum Economics.  Or ..Alcubierrelogy.  

The logic of getting the velocity of money to exceed the speed of light.

Move over Krugtron.  I&#039;m coming.    Your Empire of Shit shall be mine. 

&quot;&quot;In the early epoch of the universe, there was a very short period known as inflation,&quot; said Richard Obousy, president of Icarus Interstellar. &quot;We believe that during that inflationary period, space-time itself expanded at many times the speed of light, so there are tantalizing questions when you look at nature as a teacher. Is this something that can be duplicated around the vicinity of a spacecraft?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to all our money and wealth problems is I say Quantum Economics.  Or ..Alcubierrelogy.  </p>
<p>The logic of getting the velocity of money to exceed the speed of light.</p>
<p>Move over Krugtron.  I&#8217;m coming.    Your Empire of Shit shall be mine. </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;In the early epoch of the universe, there was a very short period known as inflation,&#8221; said Richard Obousy, president of Icarus Interstellar. &#8220;We believe that during that inflationary period, space-time itself expanded at many times the speed of light, so there are tantalizing questions when you look at nature as a teacher. Is this something that can be duplicated around the vicinity of a spacecraft?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: pseudo-chrysostom</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26108</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 20:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anger is a function of the desire for control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anger is a function of the desire for control.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26098</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 16:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um.  

Yes indeed, bargaining comes next.

Now there will never, ever, ever be a step 5.     That&#039;s not possible.  Nor is it wise.  

Step 4...mmm.  Dig.  We&#039;re going to get work out of you at last.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um.  </p>
<p>Yes indeed, bargaining comes next.</p>
<p>Now there will never, ever, ever be a step 5.     That&#8217;s not possible.  Nor is it wise.  </p>
<p>Step 4&#8230;mmm.  Dig.  We&#8217;re going to get work out of you at last.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/dark-techno-commercialism/#comment-26097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VXXC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@VXXC&lt;/strong&gt;

@ Admin TS/AI belligerence --Yes but doesn&#039;t that make for instance Elon Musk a pre-positioned belligerent against the Cathedral?  If he wishes to advance us into space, which seems to be his actual burning passion?

[Oh Elon, your coming to us was the footsteps of Doom.  You cannot run forever, Ring-Burgher].  

As a child of the working middle class and the Rust Belt, I can assure you they do proscribe any advancement except through their narrow hamster habit-trails.  Otherwise known as Urban Hipsterdom.

Or the Hood.

Jus Ad Bellum ad nauseum sans Bellum is the Valediction of many of my People.  

As to the Ducks...we.shall.see.   Fwear Qwamps on dwah Pwahtwomack.   Quack.  Ihtz dwah Confwederwacy.  

Why is everyone so f*cking stupwupihd, awasks Swalwon ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@VXXC</strong></p>
<p>@ Admin TS/AI belligerence &#8211;Yes but doesn&#8217;t that make for instance Elon Musk a pre-positioned belligerent against the Cathedral?  If he wishes to advance us into space, which seems to be his actual burning passion?</p>
<p>[Oh Elon, your coming to us was the footsteps of Doom.  You cannot run forever, Ring-Burgher].  </p>
<p>As a child of the working middle class and the Rust Belt, I can assure you they do proscribe any advancement except through their narrow hamster habit-trails.  Otherwise known as Urban Hipsterdom.</p>
<p>Or the Hood.</p>
<p>Jus Ad Bellum ad nauseum sans Bellum is the Valediction of many of my People.  </p>
<p>As to the Ducks&#8230;we.shall.see.   Fwear Qwamps on dwah Pwahtwomack.   Quack.  Ihtz dwah Confwederwacy.  </p>
<p>Why is everyone so f*cking stupwupihd, awasks Swalwon ?</p>
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