Dark Thoughts

Peter A. Taylor contributes this gem to the comments thread of Foseti’s recent democracy round-up:

Washington is not the dark heart of a pure nation. It is the dark heart of a rotting nation. That’s why the Dark Enlightenment is so dark.

April 7, 2013admin 23 Comments »
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  • spandrell Says:

    But whence the rot, if not Washington? Food doesn’t decay in a vacuum.

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    admin Reply:

    To think that all social decay is due to the action of the state risks over-stating the efficacy of politics. Still, I broadly agree with your comment over at Foseti’s: it’s a circuit, and the state (at the very minimum) operates as the single most critical node in a degeneration amplifier.

    Nothing in that detracts from the excellence of Taylor’s statement, does it?

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    Posted on April 7th, 2013 at 10:23 am Reply | Quote
  • Peter A. Taylor Says:

    For the record, that was an imperfect quotation from “asdf”.

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    admin Reply:

    Do you remember when that “three branches of government” post was written? (Foseti’s blog isn’t easy to search.) If your revised version of the quote is as ‘imperfect’ as you say, the asdf original must be quite something.

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    Handle Reply:

    27-JULY-2012

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    Mark Warburton Reply:

    Nice one, Handle. Was looking for some practical, working examples of the Cathedral in action. Spent the evening arguing with emotive leftist over this:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/04/the-philpott-case-should-prompt-debate-about-britains-underclass/

    really liked this from the article : “If you think this is not an issue – like much of the political left – then you have to ask yourself a straightforward question. What is the long-term future for a country where responsible people are discouraged from having children and the irresponsible encouraged?”

    Dysgenic allround everyone? I likened it to Mike Judge’s dystopian ‘comedy’ Idiocracy.

    Suprised no one has mentioned it in these forums. Guess it’s because it’s a UK case? Here is the full case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Philpott

    Anyways, my signature seems to be highjacking threads, my bad!

    Posted on April 7th, 2013 at 9:20 pm Reply | Quote
  • Peter A. Taylor Says:

    I didn’t screw it up that badly. I just don’t want to be accused of plagiarism.

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    admin Reply:

    I was just kidding (and there’s a singularity for that).

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    Posted on April 7th, 2013 at 11:36 pm Reply | Quote
  • Handle Says:

    this story went all around the American Reactosphere. It’s just a particularly egregious example of a daily phenomenon. I work with an attorney who once worked a state agency tasked with enforcing unpaid child support orders. She said she knew it had gotten “out of control bad” when she routinely had to ask for “technical exception support.”

    “What’s that?” I asked. “You know how when they invented toll-free numbers they were synonymous with “1-800”, because no one imagined we would need more than 10 million of them, but now we’ve got 866, 877, etc.? Same problem. Well, the system is father focused, naturally. Every father, mother, and child gets a special system number, but we work around ‘father accounts’, which have the father on the left, the children in the middle, and the mother of each child to the right of their respective children. But the child database for each father’s account starts at 0 and goes to 9. When that’s not enough, the system can’t handle it. They figured out a way for the administrators to personally go in there and create a gimcrack ‘fix’ involving a pointer to a second “continuation” account, but it’s got to be done by hand every time. So we have to call tech support. I noticed that, all of sudden, I’d gone from barely doing it to putting them on speed dial. That’s when I knew it was time to leave.”

    Idiocracy is also talked about frequently – Sailer’s mentioned it at least a dozen times. Part of the problem is that, these things were talked about so frequently at one point, to mention them now seems boring and overly repetitive. Of course, that’s biased against people new to navigation the sphere.

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    Mark Warburton Reply:

    *sigh* late to the party..

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    admin Reply:

    All those warnings about the unreliability of linear extrapolation are a sanity-saver at this point. If things were actually going to just carry on, utter cosmic despair wouldn’t even begin to capture the outcome we’d be looking at. (Compared to the world the Left has lined up for us, Idiocracy is the Institute for Advanced Study.)

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    Mark Warburton Reply:

    I was trying to get this point across to the two socialists in the ‘debate’ over that Spectator article;but they just constantly appeal to emotion and can’t get there head around the fact that – like Jonathan Bowden – I don’t believe the push for equality/levelling to be some ‘moral’ good (or good of any kind). Anyways, it led me to a fruitless debate – and the girl that introduced me to the conversation was a potential shag, so I think that has gone out of the window because my political views are ‘disappointing’ and I come across as ‘mean’. *yawn*

    Good to be able to chat here. I’m surrouded by leftists wherever I turn. I’m treated like a monster for not toeing the line. Seeing as I’m not a convential conservative (the only right-leaning people I know), the interwebz gives me the opportunity to speak to like-minds!

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    admin Reply:

    Do try not to get lynched. (I’d pan-handle for more inside dope from the bleeding heart of the Cathedral, but I doubt that’s consistent with the “don’t get lynched” request.)

    Thales Reply:

    The Reactosphere is the Second Foundation, ad hoc and ellusive. It stands in contrast to the First Foundation as realized in brick-and-mortar in various east coast think tanks.

    Nick B. Steves Reply:

    the girl that introduced me to the conversation was a potential shag, so I think that has gone out of the window because my political views are ‘disappointing’ and I come across as ‘mean’.

    Don’t count yerself out just yet Ol’ Chap. “Mean” is a very short hop from Aloof Asshole, which “they” say is one of the best vaginal lubricants.

    Posted on April 8th, 2013 at 12:45 am Reply | Quote
  • Mark Warburton Says:

    @Handle

    You expect too much. They’re the usual iron fists in velvet gloves who scream naturalistic fallacy when you point to reality.

    A friend of mine just made a sly joke on facebook:

    !Sky News: Labour leader Ed Milliband wants to stop payday lenders swamping the high street.

    APR 2013.”

    It got me thinking, is there a cybernetic logic(relation) to subjective/mass collapse? With the proximity of financial, social and cultural collapse, do individual’s,out of anxiety (via unconscious ‘knowing’, crave for a libidinal sublimation that is only ever expanding? It would (has) manifest, on the surface, as reckless squandering and short-sightedness? A la the (unintentional) reading of Bataille’s economy of the sun.

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    Mark Warburton Reply:

    That was at Admin, not Handle. Apologies.

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    Posted on April 8th, 2013 at 11:17 am Reply | Quote
  • Mark Warburton Says:

    @Handle

    Haha. We’ll see. She’s ‘dating’ a man 20 years older than her who declares himself a dominant/master. She’s probably not my cup of tea!

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    SDL Reply:

    She’s ‘dating’ a man 20 years older than her who declares himself a dominant/master.

    She says you’re mean for voicing concerns about welfare policies, then goes home and gets whipped from behind with a ball-gag in her mouth? I’d love to get Julia Kristeva’s take on that one . . .

    Aloof, Ultimately Unconcerned Neo-Reactionary Ass Hole . . . play that up and she’ll be on her knees for you in no time.

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    Nick B. Steves Reply:

    She’s ‘dating’ a man 20 years older than her who declares himself a dominant/master.

    As with the world’s most humble and world’s most talented, no “dominant/master” ever needs to self-declare. I suspect, however, he plays one in the bedroom.

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    fotrkd Reply:

    Did I miss something? When did Outside In become an Agony Aunt column?! It was the ‘Spanked’ post wasn’t it?

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    Mark Warburton Reply:

    Apologies!

    Alrenous Reply:

    Game is included in the dark enlightenment, so it’s essentially on topic.

    There’s good epistemic reasons to discuss it, namely that it hones the instinctual recognition of some abundant kinds of lies and sophistries, which recognition can be applied to more ‘serious’ and ‘important’ topics.*

    Calling the dude mean is a shit test. It doesn’t matter if she actually thinks it or not, only how he reacts.

    *(I have no respect for a human’s ability to accurately peg seriousness and importance.)

    Posted on April 8th, 2013 at 7:23 pm Reply | Quote

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