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		<title>By: nydwracu</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/deep-ruin/#comment-76054</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If any of you have read Bonfire of the Vanities, you&#039;ll know the passage I&#039;d quote if I could find it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any of you have read Bonfire of the Vanities, you&#8217;ll know the passage I&#8217;d quote if I could find it.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/deep-ruin/#comment-76009</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 15:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it&#039;s utterly fascinating to me how much he gets right despite his monomaniac peak oil obsession. He&#039;s Rx rather than NRx, I guess (pure cyclical time), but he seems far more rigorous and practical in his approach than the reactionary romantic fringe. One thing which deserves to be learned from, he goes deeply dire without getting (entirely) lost in self-indulgent moralistic whining.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s utterly fascinating to me how much he gets right despite his monomaniac peak oil obsession. He&#8217;s Rx rather than NRx, I guess (pure cyclical time), but he seems far more rigorous and practical in his approach than the reactionary romantic fringe. One thing which deserves to be learned from, he goes deeply dire without getting (entirely) lost in self-indulgent moralistic whining.</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/deep-ruin/#comment-75998</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 14:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have read that Greer piece three times and finally decided it was brilliant (even if the guy is a Peak Oil fanatic). The piece also helps explain for me a question that has been dogging me for several years now: What&#039;s up with all these goddamn tattoos everywhere? In Greer&#039;s model, tattoos would be analogous to the adoption of Christianity by the oppressed masses in Roman times: They are a story that makes sense for an underclass that no longer sees any point in modeling itself on the practices and beliefs of the elites. 

Of course, the problem Greer diagnoses only gets worse as the underclass comes to LOOK less and less like the elites due to immigration and dysgenic reproduction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that Greer piece three times and finally decided it was brilliant (even if the guy is a Peak Oil fanatic). The piece also helps explain for me a question that has been dogging me for several years now: What&#8217;s up with all these goddamn tattoos everywhere? In Greer&#8217;s model, tattoos would be analogous to the adoption of Christianity by the oppressed masses in Roman times: They are a story that makes sense for an underclass that no longer sees any point in modeling itself on the practices and beliefs of the elites. </p>
<p>Of course, the problem Greer diagnoses only gets worse as the underclass comes to LOOK less and less like the elites due to immigration and dysgenic reproduction.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 10:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the shock jock Anthony Cumio fired today by sirius for tweets about being attacked by blacks in times square]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the shock jock Anthony Cumio fired today by sirius for tweets about being attacked by blacks in times square</p>
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		<title>By: JPOutlook</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/deep-ruin/#comment-75835</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 08:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If all else fails you can team up with the pagan negro children... Which is why I don&#039;t really get the non-Christians, or anti-Christians bemoaning the state of meaningless consumerism in culture. There is almost always going to be a spiritual safety net, if you&#039;re keen to empty your pockets of all materialism and fall down far enough.

J.P.O.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all else fails you can team up with the pagan negro children&#8230; Which is why I don&#8217;t really get the non-Christians, or anti-Christians bemoaning the state of meaningless consumerism in culture. There is almost always going to be a spiritual safety net, if you&#8217;re keen to empty your pockets of all materialism and fall down far enough.</p>
<p>J.P.O.</p>
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		<title>By: S.C. Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/deep-ruin/#comment-75756</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sorry the last on rebuilding babel not the right link...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry the last on rebuilding babel not the right link&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Imperfect Humanoid</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 06:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Eliot and Pound, flawed and broken as they were, provide a mirror for us to look in as we try to acknowledge who and what we are&#039; - Flemming

Yep, we have been so deeply screwed for such a long time that we almost forget it, and sometimes need a good article like this to re-acknowledge that it is not only Detroit that is run down, but this whole culture from the ground up.  Some of the more essential pessimistic insights include:

&#039;If the great leftist delusion is that man by his nature creates problems that only a global government can solve, the conservative delusion is that self-interested individualists can find their way out of any mess that other selfish individualists have created.&#039;

A cul-de-sac at both ends of the road... also:

 &#039;Like an extermination squad, the leftists have gone from block to block, from generation to generation, chivvying the squatters from ruined churches and blowing up every little bit of shelter, from classical studies to marriage to the very nature and identity of the human race.  Eliot drew a sort of weary strength from the bits of Latin, Italian, and Sanskrit he inserted into The Waste Land: “These fragments I have shored against my ruins,” but nearly a century later our schools and universities have dumped those fragments into the trash.&#039;

What more can be said?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Eliot and Pound, flawed and broken as they were, provide a mirror for us to look in as we try to acknowledge who and what we are&#8217; &#8211; Flemming</p>
<p>Yep, we have been so deeply screwed for such a long time that we almost forget it, and sometimes need a good article like this to re-acknowledge that it is not only Detroit that is run down, but this whole culture from the ground up.  Some of the more essential pessimistic insights include:</p>
<p>&#8216;If the great leftist delusion is that man by his nature creates problems that only a global government can solve, the conservative delusion is that self-interested individualists can find their way out of any mess that other selfish individualists have created.&#8217;</p>
<p>A cul-de-sac at both ends of the road&#8230; also:</p>
<p> &#8216;Like an extermination squad, the leftists have gone from block to block, from generation to generation, chivvying the squatters from ruined churches and blowing up every little bit of shelter, from classical studies to marriage to the very nature and identity of the human race.  Eliot drew a sort of weary strength from the bits of Latin, Italian, and Sanskrit he inserted into The Waste Land: “These fragments I have shored against my ruins,” but nearly a century later our schools and universities have dumped those fragments into the trash.&#8217;</p>
<p>What more can be said?</p>
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		<title>By: S.C. Hickman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 06:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course at the same time that the old Fordist era of Detroit is crushed under there is China investing in its downtown and surrounding infrastructure real estate: 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2013/12/08/chinas-newest-city-we-call-it-detroit/

http://voiceofrussia.com/us/2013_12_19/China-buying-up-Detroit-6948/

http://qz.com/107937/the-latest-chinese-investment-craze-downtown-detroit-housing/


As I was studying the recent history of Shanghai from the 30&#039;s onward it too went through a period of creative destruction which obviously hurt certain peoples and opened it up for others...  interesting article on creative destruction: 

http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/05/28/replay-creative-destruction-is-real/

http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/commentary/rebuilding-babel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course at the same time that the old Fordist era of Detroit is crushed under there is China investing in its downtown and surrounding infrastructure real estate: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2013/12/08/chinas-newest-city-we-call-it-detroit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2013/12/08/chinas-newest-city-we-call-it-detroit/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://voiceofrussia.com/us/2013_12_19/China-buying-up-Detroit-6948/" rel="nofollow">http://voiceofrussia.com/us/2013_12_19/China-buying-up-Detroit-6948/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://qz.com/107937/the-latest-chinese-investment-craze-downtown-detroit-housing/" rel="nofollow">http://qz.com/107937/the-latest-chinese-investment-craze-downtown-detroit-housing/</a></p>
<p>As I was studying the recent history of Shanghai from the 30&#8217;s onward it too went through a period of creative destruction which obviously hurt certain peoples and opened it up for others&#8230;  interesting article on creative destruction: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/05/28/replay-creative-destruction-is-real/" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbanophile.com/2010/05/28/replay-creative-destruction-is-real/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/commentary/rebuilding-babel" rel="nofollow">http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/commentary/rebuilding-babel</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/deep-ruin/#comment-75690</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 03:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just finished two long drives around the northern and southern US. My list of cities:

Hagarstown Md: Train wreck.
York PA: Train wreck.
Toledo, OH: Train wreck.
Upper Midwest: Pretty nice in a lot of places (Madison WI, Duluth MN)
Pittsburgh: Pretty good
Mobile AL: Pretty good
Charleston, SC: Quite nice;
Savannah, GA: Grungry but salvageable.
New Orleans, NO: Real question mark. BIG city ... lot of good, lot of bad.
Houston, TX: Okay, I think.
Naples, FL: Great.
St Pete, FL: Getting much better.
Miami, FL: No thanks. May work out, may not ... but not for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished two long drives around the northern and southern US. My list of cities:</p>
<p>Hagarstown Md: Train wreck.<br />
York PA: Train wreck.<br />
Toledo, OH: Train wreck.<br />
Upper Midwest: Pretty nice in a lot of places (Madison WI, Duluth MN)<br />
Pittsburgh: Pretty good<br />
Mobile AL: Pretty good<br />
Charleston, SC: Quite nice;<br />
Savannah, GA: Grungry but salvageable.<br />
New Orleans, NO: Real question mark. BIG city &#8230; lot of good, lot of bad.<br />
Houston, TX: Okay, I think.<br />
Naples, FL: Great.<br />
St Pete, FL: Getting much better.<br />
Miami, FL: No thanks. May work out, may not &#8230; but not for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Antisthenes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antisthenes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 01:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Positively Borgesian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Positively Borgesian.</p>
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