it is the very nature of hidden government not to be a public object

O9Anism?

“Mr. Bond, power is sovereignty. Clausewitz’s first principle was to have a secure base. From there one proceeds to freedom of action. Together, that is sovereignty. I have secured these things and much beside. No one else in the world possess them to the same degree. They cannot have them. The world is too public. These things can only be secured in privacy. You talk of kings and presidents. How much power do they possess? As much as their people will allow them. Who in the world has the power of life and death over his people? Now that Stalin is dead, can you name any man except myself? And how do I possess that power, that sovereignty? Through privacy. Through the fact that nobody knows. ” (pg. 161)

http://jaysanalysis.com/2014/11/06/the-establishment-shadow-government-is-spectre/

more fundamentally, the cathedral analogy is not meant to compare the functioning of the modern US to the way the medieval church operated, but to the way medieval states responded to the church’s influence. the medieval church did not claim secular power (outside of the papal states), but it did claim spiritual power over catholic monarchs, including, occasionally, the power to appoint and depose kings. the church did not make good on this claim with power, it never had a real army, but it had immense influence. it owned huge amounts of land, and thus money, it ran all the universities and schools, had all sorts of spiritual penalties it could impose, and commanded the loyalty of millions of catholics. the modern cathedral, of course, has no pope, but as a system it exercises the same sort of influence on the modern state.

If this talk is correct then it could be said that there is a deep state within the Catholic church.

I don’t make any claims to understand the truth of this situation.