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		<title>By: Thales</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-13440</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/23/us-egypt-brotherhood-urgent-idUSBRE98M0HL20130923&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Indeed!&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/23/us-egypt-brotherhood-urgent-idUSBRE98M0HL20130923" rel="nofollow">Indeed!</a></p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-10375</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@VXXC&lt;/strong&gt;

Bit of a tack change Admin.  What &lt;i&gt; percentage &lt;/i&gt; would support non-Leftist government?

If we take the current leftist government, and to be fair leftist governments from the 70s forward then it&#039;s safe to assume a majority of the ethnic majority.  

You could also use Gallup and all polls on liberal and conservative self identification, and get around 40% plus.

Progressives are a minority.  19% identify as Liberal.  6% as Progressive.  So MORE than the Progs.

So a lot depends on what &quot;Leftist&quot; government means.   Left of who?  Frederick the Greatest?   Or left of Cromwell?
Or do we mean in the times we live?

&quot;Dynamic capitalism has no future in America without secessionist fragmentation (at least to the point of assertive states’ rights, and attendant roll-back of the Federal Government to something tolerably limited).&quot;

If dynamic capitalism is the neo-liberalism of the last 30 years I don&#039;t want it to have a future.  I care about the good of my country.  If we are restricted to internal trade [the bulk of it in any case] and exchange controls to keep our gold, it&#039;s not my problem.  Hell Autarky isn&#039;t my problem.  I&#039;m American.  We could get away with it.   If Sergey Brin or Elon Musk don&#039;t like it, they can GO HOME.    Say hello to the natives. 

Our rights will be asserted, or they will not.  In which case we Americans are the Sergey Brins and Elon Musks of the future.    The people will assert their rights, or not.  In which case they can see their future in Mexico City and Sao Paulo now.   The Federal monstrosity will not likely be rolled back, and delenda sunt.    

The Federal government &lt;b&gt; &lt;i&gt; can&#039;t reform.  Reform isn&#039;t possible by any mechanism at the Federal Level.  They&#039;re bankrupt because they&#039;re all scrambling for the looting takings that are left &lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt; .  

The court has no King because the King was THE PEOPLE.   That is to say elections.    Did this King have to let his ministers and Parliament run things?  Well yes.    The limits on the appetites of the Court was the Constitution.   The New Deal slew and usurped both.    It&#039;s millions of people on auto-pilot of their own interests or interests of department at the most.  Which is of course the self interest of your office.   They can&#039;t reform because it requires not a Gorbachev but millions of Gorbachevs.   It won&#039;t happen. 

So the Reactionary Splinter of the Court party needs the Ring of Fnargl to work.   And it has to be used.   As sovereignty will be conserved in the Court Party, it has to be defeated and destroyed.  So there&#039;s no reform.  King Fnargl must either destroy the Potomac or the nation.  It&#039;s quite simple.  

Perhaps the Court Reaction Party thinks this person can save it.   &lt;i&gt; Them to be more precise.  &lt;/i&gt;

Someone mocked me here with perhaps the South shall fall again. 

I&#039;ll take the South = all the Red on the map :: the Return of the House of Stuart.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@VXXC</strong></p>
<p>Bit of a tack change Admin.  What <i> percentage </i> would support non-Leftist government?</p>
<p>If we take the current leftist government, and to be fair leftist governments from the 70s forward then it&#8217;s safe to assume a majority of the ethnic majority.  </p>
<p>You could also use Gallup and all polls on liberal and conservative self identification, and get around 40% plus.</p>
<p>Progressives are a minority.  19% identify as Liberal.  6% as Progressive.  So MORE than the Progs.</p>
<p>So a lot depends on what &#8220;Leftist&#8221; government means.   Left of who?  Frederick the Greatest?   Or left of Cromwell?<br />
Or do we mean in the times we live?</p>
<p>&#8220;Dynamic capitalism has no future in America without secessionist fragmentation (at least to the point of assertive states’ rights, and attendant roll-back of the Federal Government to something tolerably limited).&#8221;</p>
<p>If dynamic capitalism is the neo-liberalism of the last 30 years I don&#8217;t want it to have a future.  I care about the good of my country.  If we are restricted to internal trade [the bulk of it in any case] and exchange controls to keep our gold, it&#8217;s not my problem.  Hell Autarky isn&#8217;t my problem.  I&#8217;m American.  We could get away with it.   If Sergey Brin or Elon Musk don&#8217;t like it, they can GO HOME.    Say hello to the natives. </p>
<p>Our rights will be asserted, or they will not.  In which case we Americans are the Sergey Brins and Elon Musks of the future.    The people will assert their rights, or not.  In which case they can see their future in Mexico City and Sao Paulo now.   The Federal monstrosity will not likely be rolled back, and delenda sunt.    </p>
<p>The Federal government <b> <i> can&#8217;t reform.  Reform isn&#8217;t possible by any mechanism at the Federal Level.  They&#8217;re bankrupt because they&#8217;re all scrambling for the looting takings that are left </i></b>  .  </p>
<p>The court has no King because the King was THE PEOPLE.   That is to say elections.    Did this King have to let his ministers and Parliament run things?  Well yes.    The limits on the appetites of the Court was the Constitution.   The New Deal slew and usurped both.    It&#8217;s millions of people on auto-pilot of their own interests or interests of department at the most.  Which is of course the self interest of your office.   They can&#8217;t reform because it requires not a Gorbachev but millions of Gorbachevs.   It won&#8217;t happen. </p>
<p>So the Reactionary Splinter of the Court party needs the Ring of Fnargl to work.   And it has to be used.   As sovereignty will be conserved in the Court Party, it has to be defeated and destroyed.  So there&#8217;s no reform.  King Fnargl must either destroy the Potomac or the nation.  It&#8217;s quite simple.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the Court Reaction Party thinks this person can save it.   <i> Them to be more precise.  </i></p>
<p>Someone mocked me here with perhaps the South shall fall again. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take the South = all the Red on the map :: the Return of the House of Stuart.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-10358</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you were to stretch generosity to the maximum, what proportion of our contemporary US population do you imagine possibly supporting a non-Leftist regime? I simply can&#039;t get the maths to work. Dynamic capitalism has no future in America without secessionist fragmentation (at least to the point of assertive states&#039; rights, and attendant roll-back of the Federal Government to something tolerably limited).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were to stretch generosity to the maximum, what proportion of our contemporary US population do you imagine possibly supporting a non-Leftist regime? I simply can&#8217;t get the maths to work. Dynamic capitalism has no future in America without secessionist fragmentation (at least to the point of assertive states&#8217; rights, and attendant roll-back of the Federal Government to something tolerably limited).</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-10349</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Outsiders to Hirsh means outside of the Acela corridor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsiders to Hirsh means outside of the Acela corridor.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-10348</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Managerial Liberalism is not democracy.

Democracy in Egypt would indeed be a slaughterhouse to rival Pol Pot.  

Democracy in MENA is good for killing people, breaking things.  It&#039;s also stunningly effective at drawing Takfiri wrath.   For some reason they were very late and indeed many times never to realize it&#039;s potential for them.  

Democracy to many of the oppressed peoples of the world means AMERICA.    Much more than democracy was needed to make America succeed, indeed democracy only came to compliment America&#039;s Constitutional Republic.   &lt;i&gt; Democracy might have destroyed Res Republica, but in fact the deed was done by Progs.  &lt;/i&gt;.   Who in the truest feality to their parents and grandparents blame the people for their sins.  

But if you&#039;re one of the truly oppressed serfs in the valley, as opposed to the gangster on the Hillside Villa then you of course love the idea of democracy, and really wanna be Amiriki [Americian].  

Hirsh is on the Hillside.  Hirsh however is no gangster.  Hirsh knows this.  Hirsh is soiling his creased pants.  

And who here, or Hirsh, gives a f*ck about Egypt?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Managerial Liberalism is not democracy.</p>
<p>Democracy in Egypt would indeed be a slaughterhouse to rival Pol Pot.  </p>
<p>Democracy in MENA is good for killing people, breaking things.  It&#8217;s also stunningly effective at drawing Takfiri wrath.   For some reason they were very late and indeed many times never to realize it&#8217;s potential for them.  </p>
<p>Democracy to many of the oppressed peoples of the world means AMERICA.    Much more than democracy was needed to make America succeed, indeed democracy only came to compliment America&#8217;s Constitutional Republic.   <i> Democracy might have destroyed Res Republica, but in fact the deed was done by Progs.  </i>.   Who in the truest feality to their parents and grandparents blame the people for their sins.  </p>
<p>But if you&#8217;re one of the truly oppressed serfs in the valley, as opposed to the gangster on the Hillside Villa then you of course love the idea of democracy, and really wanna be Amiriki [Americian].  </p>
<p>Hirsh is on the Hillside.  Hirsh however is no gangster.  Hirsh knows this.  Hirsh is soiling his creased pants.  </p>
<p>And who here, or Hirsh, gives a f*ck about Egypt?</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-10347</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 11:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;  David &lt;/b&gt;The core of elite politics is hatred of &quot;The People&quot;.   If they&#039;re hated, they must exist.  

The core of the current Mikado&#039;s politics is united around hatred of the core of the nation, the majority.  As is predictable with open hatred it works both ways.  

I&#039;ll define the people as the out of stock, no backorder purchasers.  I&#039;ll define the people as the majority.   

I&#039;ll come to a crystalized form of the people as the people who act.  

I suspect they&#039;ll have at last their Ironsides. 
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&lt;b&gt; nydwracu &lt;/b&gt;  we didn&#039;t have Fascism 1830-1933.   

We certainly had forms of British Government say 1600-1776.  

If forms of British government are so hopeless in America [a strange proposition] then what hope is there for a monarch?   

What form of government does work for America? 

and BTW what will all the merry monarchists and formalists do about the people, the Army, the Cops [also sworn to the sacral scroll]???  
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My point again Admin, there is a court party of reaction within the very Cathedral walls, indeed in it&#039;s potomac citadel.   Vehemently some reactionaries are right-wing progs.  

But since the people are all a bunch of hicks, there&#039;s nothing to fear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>  David </b>The core of elite politics is hatred of &#8220;The People&#8221;.   If they&#8217;re hated, they must exist.  </p>
<p>The core of the current Mikado&#8217;s politics is united around hatred of the core of the nation, the majority.  As is predictable with open hatred it works both ways.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll define the people as the out of stock, no backorder purchasers.  I&#8217;ll define the people as the majority.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll come to a crystalized form of the people as the people who act.  </p>
<p>I suspect they&#8217;ll have at last their Ironsides.<br />
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<b> nydwracu </b>  we didn&#8217;t have Fascism 1830-1933.   </p>
<p>We certainly had forms of British Government say 1600-1776.  </p>
<p>If forms of British government are so hopeless in America [a strange proposition] then what hope is there for a monarch?   </p>
<p>What form of government does work for America? </p>
<p>and BTW what will all the merry monarchists and formalists do about the people, the Army, the Cops [also sworn to the sacral scroll]???<br />
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<p>My point again Admin, there is a court party of reaction within the very Cathedral walls, indeed in it&#8217;s potomac citadel.   Vehemently some reactionaries are right-wing progs.  </p>
<p>But since the people are all a bunch of hicks, there&#8217;s nothing to fear.</p>
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		<title>By: nydwracu</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The great thing about democracy is that you can actually get something like it if the population is homogeneous enough. It&#039;s called fascism.

Notice that the closest thing to Mussolini was Nixon and you&#039;re far along to realizing just how hopeless British forms of government are to America.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about democracy is that you can actually get something like it if the population is homogeneous enough. It&#8217;s called fascism.</p>
<p>Notice that the closest thing to Mussolini was Nixon and you&#8217;re far along to realizing just how hopeless British forms of government are to America.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/democratization-is-done/#comment-10320</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kerry&#039;s more of a (witless) &quot;We must &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.xenosystems.net/the-islamic-vortex-part-3a/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;save democracy&lt;/a&gt; to kill it!&quot; kind of guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry&#8217;s more of a (witless) &#8220;We must <a href="http://www.xenosystems.net/the-islamic-vortex-part-3a/" rel="nofollow">save democracy</a> to kill it!&#8221; kind of guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Thales</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 04:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We must kill Democracy to save it!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We must kill Democracy to save it!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The People&quot; is a construct. &quot;The People&quot; don&#039;t exist. You seem to intend by &quot;the People&quot; to mean something like &quot;alienated conservative whites, primarily in the South and exurban and suburban regions of the rest of the US.&quot; 

Who knows, though... maybe the South will fall again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The People&#8221; is a construct. &#8220;The People&#8221; don&#8217;t exist. You seem to intend by &#8220;the People&#8221; to mean something like &#8220;alienated conservative whites, primarily in the South and exurban and suburban regions of the rest of the US.&#8221; </p>
<p>Who knows, though&#8230; maybe the South will fall again.</p>
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