Disconnection V

Thing likely to get highly fragmented over the next couple of weeks, and especially over the next couple of days. Will aim to maintain a thread of continuity.

In the meantime, here‘s my favorite Christmas Song (embedded version).

Try not to do anything too radically evil in the comment threads, and to be patient if spam-filter clearance is slower than usual.

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  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    Not since Nico, & the Velvet Hogs, have we heard innovation such as this. A new genre!

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    Posted on December 17th, 2016 at 10:03 am Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    ‘radically evil’ … yeahh …. nooo I mean never

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    tsk Reply:

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mods-are-asleep

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    Posted on December 17th, 2016 at 10:20 am Reply | Quote
  • They return Says:

    The cult leader’s out! Let’s burn the black candles that smell like blood!

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    SVErshov Reply:

    Swill-coffee goes very well with black candles. ‘ It is usually made from rotten barley, dead men’s bones, plus a few genuine coffee beans fished out of the garbage bins of a Celtic dispensary. It is easily recognized by its unmistakable odor of feet marinated in dishwater. It is served in prisons, reform schools, sleeping cars, and luxury hotels’ Umberto Eco cook book.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Radically evil… I love a Kant reference. Kek is just rebranded Satan anyway, sensu circa 1995 Darkthrone.

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    Erebus Reply:

    >Kek is just rebranded Satan anyway

    I’ve seen this repeated elsewhere, but it doesn’t seem correct to me. Kek is a creation of the internet — fertile soil for aberrations of all types — and is very clearly an avatar of the trickster archetype. Satan is… well… Jung went to the trouble of describing a specific “Devil” archetype. Besides, Satan is aesthetically very distinct from Kek.

    And to approach this from a different angle, Darkthrone circa 1995 used Satanism as a prop. A stage-prop for the compact disc age. They were, of course, never serious about it. Kek, on the other hand, is much more interesting: A spontaneously-emergent Deity of the internet age.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    How related are frogs and serpents? Cladistics anyone?

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    « Time to build a temple of the true Kek, the snake woman. ie the anti-christ-snake. the woman-in-person. Neofeminaction, Nfx, etc etc »

    http://imgur.com/gallery/HceWV

    Wagner Reply:

    Speaking of “radically evil”, RE: Erebus’ argument from accomplishment:

    The English have Shakespeare but the order of rank of world philosophy is:

    Germans
    Greeks
    And the English, French, and Jews can fight for third place.

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    Wagner Reply:

    This is a dark topic. For now I think a lot of our senses are that Europeans should stick together. But to follow the telos of anti-multiculturalism we’re eventually going to turn on each other. Land is trying to pull the master-race card with (((esoteric))) Atlanteanism. Nick puppet, the alternate-history Nazi version of the Beatles is 1.5x better than the Beatles. We’d have an aristocracy careening through space if the Nazis had won. You milquetoast brits are the ones holding us back. You only uphold the ideal of anti-pity because you’re still trying to lash the sins out of your genetic back.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [Wagner]: “We’d have an aristocracy careening through space if the Nazis had won.”et

    {AK}: Germany got rocketry from Britain. it
    Britain got it from India, the ‘Mysore rockets’.
    Usually, the West gets it ideas from China or India.

    Salger Reply:

    Here we see Artxell Knaphni going full We Wuz Kangz. I’m sure you’re start yelling about all the Black accomplishments in Egypt next. Or about the Muzzie Golden Age.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [Salger]: “Here we see Artxell Knaphni going full We Wuz Kangz. I’m sure you’re start yelling about all the Black accomplishments in Egypt next. Or about the Muzzie Golden Age.”

    {AK}: We is the Kings, of Melanin! You be deprived, but not of your lies. lol

    Salger Reply:

    How about you list all the mud accomplishments in the actual sciences.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [Wagner]: “Speaking of “radically evil”, RE: Erebus’ argument from accomplishment:

    The English have Shakespeare but the order of rank of world philosophy is:

    Germans
    Greeks
    And the English, French, and Jews can fight for third place.”

    {AK}: This is your order of philosophic accomplishment, in terms of the “radically evil”?
    Or accomplishment of the “radically evil”, in terms of philosophy?
    Or both?

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Rockets existed long before the Mysorean rockets, and Congreve was able to quickly improve upon them by experimenting with rockets readily bought in london. The chinese had fire arrowrockets 600 years before the indians.
    But yeah it a fun fact the wogs got the better of Brits by tying spears and fireworks to bamboo shafts, It certainly shows all wogs are not stupid, but i think everyone agrees with that. On the other hand its pretty likely if Germans or Brits had been next door to china they would have done more with gunpowder than the wogs.
    Anyway hardly enough to steal Von Brauns thunder maybe Newton could claim dome credit though

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [collen ryan]: “Rockets existed long before the Mysorean rockets, and Congreve was able to quickly improve upon them by experimenting with rockets readily bought in london. The chinese had fire arrowrockets 600 years before the indians.
    But yeah it a fun fact the wogs got the better of Brits by tying spears and fireworks to bamboo shafts, It certainly shows all wogs are not stupid, but i think everyone agrees with that. On the other hand its pretty likely if Germans or Brits had been next door to china they would have done more with gunpowder than the wogs.
    Anyway hardly enough to steal Von Brauns thunder maybe Newton could claim dome credit though”

    {AK}; What absolute nonsense!
    Chinese arrowrockets were toy vimanas, imitations of the transportation used by the early Indian Buddhists when carrying the Tripitaka over to China!

    Salger Reply:

    I’m sure your claims are accepted by the historical community.

    John Hannon Reply:

    Re “the order of rank of world philosophy”

    Others would put Asia on top. Roger Walsh* for example –

    “German idealism barely outlived its founders. Shortly after their deaths it was dismissed on logical and philosophical grounds as mere metaphysics. However, its failure may lie more in practical than in purely philosophical causes. These idealists seem to have managed genuine glimpses of the nondual and some of its manifestations and implications. However, there is an enormous difference between obtaining spontaneous glimpses and securing sustained vision or even obtaining significant glimpses at will. Many contemplative traditions speak of two distinct tasks: first of obtaining an initial, transient breakthrough glimpse – a ‘peek’ experience – and second of being able to reproduce this glimpse at will and even stabilize it as an enduring vision. The challenge is to make a spontaneous experience a voluntary experience, to extend a peak experience into a plateau experience, or as Huston Smith put it, ‘to transform flashes of illumination into abiding light.’
    This transformation requires a rigorous contemplative discipline and the idealists had none. Consequently, they were unable to offer a means by which other explorers could reproduce their insights, which were thus largely unfalsifiable and dismissed as ‘mere metaphysics.’ By contrast, Asian philosophers such as Shankara and the Yogachara Buddhists offered both an art of transcendence by which practitioners could glimpse and then stabilize an experience of the nondual, as well as philosophies that have endured over centuries to articulate the insights that emerge.”

    *From his bio – “It would have been hard to predict from observing Roger Walsh’s early career that he would become one of the leading researchers of meditation and altered states of consciousness. … He had been an Australian champion in diving and trampolining, at one time holding the world record in high diving (set by diving over 100ft from a bridge) and working as an acrobat in the Wirth-Coles circus.”

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    Wagner Reply:

    @John in any other situation I’m the guy defending Eastern philosophy. But one of the middling dialogues of Plato is more philosophical than the Four Books of Confucius put together. And I don’t think it’s unfairly sweeping to aver that Eastern philosophy is better termed Eastern religion – it tends to supply answers rather than ask questions. Instead of assuming the nobility and truth of Buddha’s four noble truths Western philosophy would prefer to probe the nature of nobility as such, truth as such. Of course it’s not either/or – where for instance does a Western philosopher say “sit down, shut up, meditate”? But after studying texts from both sides (for admittedly only five years) I am convinced that ranking Eastern above Western stems from an affirmative action type of mindset. Last time I casually made this sort of judgment admin accused me of drunken generalizations. Well, he’ll stop at nothing to convince us of the merits of the Chinese and he partakes of the same kind of leveling mindset in order to do so. I’m glad we have abundant texts from both traditions but really whom are you guys trying to kid?

    Wagner Reply:

    Granted Ezra Pound who was nobody’s fool said this:

    “[F]or 2,500 years the most intelligent men of China have tried to add to [the Analects] or to subtract. After a millennium they found that Mencius’ work could not be subtracted. And the study of the Confucian philosophy is of greater profit than that of the Greek because no time is wasted in idle discussion of errors. Aristotle gives, may we say, 90% of his time to errors, and the Occident, even before it went off for seven or more centuries into an otiose discussion of fads and haircuts (vide “The Venerable” Bede), had already started befuddling itself with the false dilemma: Aristotle OR Plato, as if there were no other roads to serenity.
    Mencius never has to contradict Confucius; he carries the Confucian sanity down into particulars, never snared into rivalry by his flatterers.”

    But look how Perfect Confucianism played out materially (Oriental Despotism for millennia) whereas the philosophers of the West paved the way for the SCIENTIFIC REVOLUTION.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It was as much « Occultism » as « Philosophy » which paved the way for the Scientific revolution. Of course, to the wise: the two are one. More pretentious will prefer the word « esoterism », but Science itself is esoteric (the word means ‘belonging to an inner circle’, first used in English of Pythagorean doctrines).

    Incidentally, Japanese Zen sage D. T. Suzuki was into Swedish scientist, philosopher, theologian, revelator, and mystic Emmanuel Swedenborg; calling him « the Buddha of the North ».

    http://www.google.com/search?q=dark+newton+alchemist

    (not a bad documentary)

    As for knowledge=power which this is all about. There are many, many kinds, with one root

    Many even here cling to quantitative predictive-knowledge=religion

    They wait for a new prediction, like babes at augur

    Land what plexy do telegram next?

    Wagner Reply:

    Let’s not mash up terms to mean the same thing: science is democratic, esotericism is elitist. “Philosophy” is a popular mask for esotericism, that is, philosophy is esoteric science. Esotericism is a mask for – –

    (((your mom)))

    i.e.

    YHWH + physis

    Or in plain English, Buddha’s teaching of emptiness is itself empty.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I don´t think you´ve read much about Buddhism except from 19 century German sauces like Schopenhauer, who surely misunderstood it, along with Zizek and Nietzsche.

    No one is going to try to convince me that the commentators here don´t suffer. They´re a suffering lot, most of them. A life devoid of love, warmth, happiness. Seeking the next fix of the libidinal-appetative system. Dogs with computers.

    Science is firstly a Latin word for knowledge.

    It has the same root as ‘shit’.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Old French word (derived) from Latin, to be exact. Before some grasshopper jumps in “muuuh it´s not Latin you twerp! Go lift weights, be a creepy little libidinal beast like me. A possessed for General Law.”

    — « Flying faster than Satan, this sigh passes the widest sphere, surpassing God. “For my essential being is above God, taking God as the origin of creatures. For in that essence of God in which God is above being and distinction, there I was myself and knew myself so as to make this man.” »

    http://blacksunlit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/nicola-masciandaro-i-am-not-supposed-to-be-here-birth-and-mystical-detection.pdf

    John Hannon Reply:

    “ranking Eastern above Western stems from an affirmative action type mindset.”

    Maybe, but there was also the explosion of interest in all things Eastern which occurred in the 60s with the emergence of hippy culture, allowing cool stuff like this to find an audience in the West –

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk60ObnbIOk

    And then of course there’s that affinity with Eastern philosophy expressed by a number of leading quantum physicists.

    Wagner Reply:

    A few years ago when I was tripping my friend played Bach on his cello for me and–compared to that the sitar is savage. Maybe this preference was imprinted when I was in an impressionable state, and I wish I had a Scruton-esque fluency of aesthetics to describe it but that’s what my gut says.

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  • Wagner Says:

    Will historians of the future see Kek as spontaneously-emergent? There must have been causes behind it. I don’t know what. Is Kek necessarily free of the meddlings of oligarchs? What is meant when you speak of the spontaneity of Kek?

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Historians of the New Gothic Empire already do.

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  • Rasputin Says:

    #Kekallaxy

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    Posted on December 17th, 2016 at 7:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    ‘Cultures approach evil in two ways: the moralistic way and the way of wisdom.Although the moralistic approach is more common, it does not enable us to understand evil. If we do not grasp evil, we cannot be free of it. Enslaved by our ignorance, we behave in ways that increase our indi- vidual and collective suffering. The way of wisdom, by contrast, offers insight into evil and relief from suffering for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.’ THE NATURE OF EVIL
    © Daryl Koehn 2005

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [SVErshov]: “‘Cultures approach evil in two ways: the moralistic way and the way of wisdom.”

    {AK}: Morality is ‘moralis’, the customs of a people’.
    Ethics is consideration of custom & action.
    Morality doesn’t require ethical consideration.
    Ethical consideration, if done well, ought to lead to insights & ‘wisdom’.

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    SVErshov Reply:

    honestly it is quite abstract cathegories “the moralistic way and the way of wisdom.” I would never use such dichotomy to aproach analisys of evil. first of all because both of these ways can turn in opposite direction easily. I would rather aproach evil as penetrating force of nuture. Because evil can be found in places when it can be less expected. for example curiocity can be very evil. “Curiosity kill the cat”.isnt it evil?

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    SVErshov, it isn’t really a dichotomy, ethics is the theoretical expansion of morality, as it were. If you look at: “Morality is ‘moralis’, the customs of a people’”, as ‘Morality’ = ‘a set of customs’; an outlook; a cultural practice; actions & behaviour, etc.; then, all of these are just what they are. Anything can be a ‘morality’, including ‘evil’.

    But if you start to consider them, on the basis of various criteria; that consideration is ‘ethics’. Ethics, is awareness, or consciousness, of moral practice and phenomena, as ‘moral practice and phenomena’.

    SVErshov Reply:

    ethics can be ‘utilized’ for obviouly evil ends. for example modern parents increasingly turning their kids into transgenders and it is ethically all right. that is interesting question to explore, how something so regulated like bio ethics, can be used to justify such kind of wicked shait.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [svershov]: “ethics can be ‘utilized’ for obviouly evil ends. for example modern parents increasingly turning their kids into transgenders and it is ethically all right. that is interesting question to explore, how something so regulated like bio ethics, can be used to justify such kind of wicked shait.”

    {AK}: Thinking can be utilised to different ends.
    Ethics is thinking about moral action, it considers the morality of actions, etc..

    SVErshov Reply:

    that is the problem. suppose there is some ground morality, once we begins thinking we extracting from that ground and then concept become its independent drift. that is how sovereign created by state for example. that is why evil becomes so persistent. thinking along this line can take one a long way.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    without (proper) morality up and down get confused.

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  • Timely Jolly Says:

    This is rather mundane, but still creates a festive mood. Let not the progressive connotations of the genre taint your enjoyment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AvJzkPqQ8

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Appreciated. Merry transatlantic festivities

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « Certainly we cannot hope to rely on re-enchantment this far down the road. That is the way of escapism, of not confronting the “enemy.”
    Rather, a better option is to recede into the backdrop. Get as close to the wall as possible. Accept the crumbs of your adversaries and use them to build a small fort. When it comes to communication and finance there is but one tool that is tamper-proof: cryptography. No amount of good will can outperform its function in allowing for degrees of anonymity and privacy. Only a huge amount of ill-will can reverse its properties. You do not need to believe people are good to set in motion a society that is fair. Indeed, it is far more likely you will make progress by assuming the worst.
    Humans adore constraints. Let us make them technical. And let us stop wasting time dreaming that with good will we will do better. No, become a tyrant in camouflage fatigues. Encrypt yourself.
    If we must have masters, at least let them be truly abstract. »

    https://medium.com/@paulennis/cryptography-trumps-art-f70eebd5de5#.6uetnuta0

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I´m going the opposite way. I´m decrypting myself

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    SVErshov Reply:

    Amen

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    He´s wrong: honesty is tamper proof

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    SVErshov Reply:

    in hindu epic Mahabharata, maharaja Yudhishthira was known for his honesty, as a result his feets never touch the ground. at the end he refused to board spaceship, which was sent for him, whithout his dog. Aliens were forced to take his dog with along with him. But his honesty was not an obstacle for him to leave for one year in disguise and impersonate himself as another person. it was a part of the deal and he was forced to do that.

    Too much of obscurity is always a sign of internalised (known or unknown) valnurability.
    Certain things suppose to be open and transparent. for example in case if it declared as such, like open sourse code of software.

    Encryption is a defence tool. Certaing information have to be defended, credit cards for example. For people who use encryption, it is part of thier culture, like doctors and layers use encryprion to protect data of their clients. not necessarily you are automatically guilty of something or dishonest if you use encryption.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    — « but one tool that is tamper-proof: cryptography. No amount of good will can outperform its function in allowing for degrees of anonymity and privacy. Only a huge amount of ill-will can reverse its properties. »

    this is some lord of the rings tier shit.

    Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
    Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
    Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne.
    One Ring to rule them all. One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

    Which is great. Dark Lord succumbed in the end tho.

    He´s framing cryptography as good. It naturally is, since it selects for intelligence and craftmanship. The elves had cryptography.

    The Nazis had cryptography. Decoding it augmented computing, so to speak. Cybernetic self-intensification.

    It is exactly the evils of men that we need transhumanism to combat.

    SVErshov Reply:

    before the battle that would be wise to mesure chances for success. combating evil is suicidal for human race, because evil is us. it is encoded on quantum level of our universe as proto consviousness. without having such proto code, counsciousness would not exist at all. this code begins from Superposition which splits and then collapse in itslef.(R Penrose)

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Evil is a ladder. Some niggas stay low in the ladder

    Others ascend up to heavens

    Space-race

    🚀

    coyote Reply:

    Transhumanism is modern word regarding immanentizing the eschaton of Lucifer: materialist worship, dreaming of man-gods: atheists and other soul-less nihilists drowning without a clue.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Transhumanism is revelatory.

    Apotheosis is trans-

    humanism

    Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.

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  • Salger Says:

    http://therightstuff.biz/2016/12/05/12-1genocide-the-inescapable-conclusion/

    Even if you’re not a White Supremacist the article is spot-on. After all, only White and East Yellow countries have IQs not lower than 98. Africa could surely use a purging (sparing maybe the likes of the Igbo).

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    FromTheNewWorld Reply:

    “Africa could surely use a purging,” likewise Europe, the Americas, and, last but definitely not least, Asia. Antarctica is about the only place on the planet that is mostly fine the way it is, with respect to its human population.

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    Salger Reply:

    Indeed.

    https://staffanspersonalityblog.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/the-iq-breaking-point-how-civilized-society-is-maintained-or-lost/

    98 is as low as you can go. So it looks like loads of Whiteys and Yellows have to go too.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Why settle for the bare minimum? The magic number is 111.

    But that is to presuppose we don’t need the humble folk. Until we’ve automated the working class we need to retain a sense of respect for them.

    coyote Reply:

    Your departure from this mortal coil might provide a small, but not zero, reduction of our population burden. As an exemplar of your proposed suggestion, you might wish to video the event for fakebook users and other lemmings. You could title it “Humexit”. Your suffering and guilt at being a member of our species would thus be permanently alleviated, and we “remainers” could chat for a bit regarding the merits of your departure. Or not.

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    Salger Reply:

    Not sure if salty mud or cuck.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    That wasn´t a cuck´s comment.

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  • FromTheNewWorld Says:

    I sincerely recommend making this disconnection permanent. For your sake as well, for, If all this goes on as it has done so far, your self-refutation will have become so obvious not even you will be able to shield yourself from taking note of it.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « For Deleuze and Guattari, replacing the Freudo-Marxist “subject” with the notion of machines provides the possibility of escape from the oppressive cycles of deterritorialization and reterritorialization inherent both in capitalism and in its critiques, as well as an alternative to “molar” or totalizing thought, allowing for an unleashing of desire as a revolutionary force. In this shift from the humanist notion of subjectivity to the posthumanist machine, desire is freed from the Oedipal yoke, transformed from the Platonic expression of lack into a positive, productive flow. The machine in Deleuze and Guattari takes on many forms–desiring machines, organic machines, technical machines, social machines, abstract machines, and so on–but each use of the notion of the machine is intended to indicate that the barrier has fallen between the human and nature, between the human and the not human, between the subject and the object, emphasizing instead their intimate and functional interconnection. Desire, that most ostensibly human quality, is in this view inseparable from these assemblages: “Desire and its object are one and the same thing: the machine, as a machine of a machine. Desire is a machine, and the object of desire is another machine connected to it” (Anti-Oedipus 26). Human desire is in this view dependent upon the existence of machines in the broad sense: “Desiring-machines are the nonhuman sex, the molecular machinic elements, their arrangements and syntheses, without which there would be neither a human sex specifically determined in the large aggregates, nor a human sexuality capable of investing these aggregates” (294). Human desire is thus always already a machine, requiring interconnection with other such machines in order to function; without machines, there can be no desire. »

    this has more in common with Buddhism than you dorks would think

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    Wagner Reply:

    Deleuze is gay. Fertility depends on nongayness, therefore Deleuzre belongs to the gulag, sorry tuh say ladz.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This is a devoid comment. He describes

    processes in a useful way

    « Look mate, you have already doomed your participation in any revival by adhering to deadwater Catholicism, bunch of old men in churches reporting how they felt heat in their bodies after chanting hail mary 200 times. Holy moly esoteric.

    Another deadwater traditionalism.

    Meanwhile Muslims are making marriages with fertile teenage girls, both blond and brown. That´s how the next generation gets made.

    It´s literally, biologically, actually, realistically, really, how. Babies.

    My grandfather was 30 years old, he married my grandmother at 16. They had 7 children.

    Go up to heaven with Jesus about that.

    As for meister Eckhart, I just saw for the first time a line of his which matches an experience I had.

    We all know he was beyond that religion

    There´s more fertility, life and light in the Mormons even, and Trad Jews »

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7FCgw_GlWc

    this is the true temple of our lord

    Salger Reply:

    > Meanwhile Muslims are making marriages with fertile teenage girls, both blond and brown.

    Of lower quality women (less physical attractiveness, lower intelligence, lower income). And there’s little to nothing fantastic about spitting out kids, especially when they’ll largely end up being noticeably lower in producivity.

    We’re past the point of needing reproduction as a top value.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Fantastic or not, the cold fact is that we need to reproduce to reproduce, no?

    Until come the mass cloning wats, which I await

    O Brave New World

    Salger Reply:

    China has a noticeablely higher population yet a far lower GDP per capita than loads of Whiter countries. This is especially notable for the China (and other forms of Yellow Fever) worshiping done by Nick Land and others in UNZ.

    It’s apparent that in a remotely modern country that accounting for biological factors like IQ there’s a point where the population has too much fat in it.

    Wagner Reply:

    Well the West is screwed utterly, I don’t care what the trumpfacade wants me to think. This period of liberalteardrinking is a hiccup sub species aeternitatis. We should have decapitated Eckhart, there’s a straight line from him to Deleuze throwing himself out of a window. Time to start goosestepping like retards to correct our errors.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Screwed utterly? What a loser perspective.

    You waste your own cause with your irrational suggestions and perspectives.

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    Aristocles Invictvs Reply:

    sauce?

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    http://www.anxietyofobsolescence.com/chapter-2/desiring-machines/

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « The Shakers were a 19th century American religious sect today mostly remembered for their minimalist furniture, but the most eccentric trait of the Shakers was that they practiced universal celibacy. You may be shocked to know that the Shakers are now extinct. The Shakers weren’t killed off by their enemies, eradicated by disease, wiped out by natural disaster, outcompeted for resources, or devoured by predators; they were destroyed by their own values. For maximum dramatic effect, I am going to call those values that ultimately result in the extinction of the group that practices them as “Deathwish Values.”

    The birthrates of Western nations, actually modernist nations as a whole, are below replacement levels and will ultimately lead to the extinction of these peoples if they persist in their current direction. Modernist nations are not being killed by enemies, eradicated by disease, wiped out by natural disasters, or devoured by predators; they are being wiped out by their own deathwish values. »

    https://darwinianreactionary.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/the-shakers-deathwish-values-and-autonomy/

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  • SVErshov Says:

    I particularly would not care if high IQ population reproduce or extinct. Second perhaps even [(no radical evil staff) self]. so, for example one man has wife with high IQ and she manipulate him and talk a lot about politics, philosophy and elections, ALL the time, and another man has wife with low IQ chearfull and kind (low IQ people never got depressed), not talking much. so, what would be your choice.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    @ Wagner

    if the west is “totally screwed”, what´s your problem with Land staying in China? you aren´t as rational as you think. skip the “Dionysian” mumbo, it´s not meant as an excuse for irrationality.

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    Wagner Reply:

    I’m not a Company Man for one side or the other. You’re a NEET in a NEET country, come spend time with my fellow americans and then tell me we’re not screwed. Whenever I poke my head out of my scorched rat-hole that’s what I realize: we’re doomed.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    nihilist

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    i´ve been in america. i know dozens of americans. there are also over a 1.000 americans in Iceland.

    you´re buying into a michael-tier narrative

    but he´s more inventive

    solution

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    you´re gonna end up like Travis in Taxi Driver, Wagner

    Wagner Reply:

    Buddy, michael was Outside of this blog. One of the only voices of true dissent amongst you turgid nerds. Of course, anglophysiology Land has to use his powers (of silence) to silence him. Pathetic. I’m smoothing the black lines under my eyes, I’m ready for another brother’s war. Post-WWII propaganda has ruined so many of you morally and logically the Germanics are probably going to lose but I’d rather go out with a fight than die like a bourgeois (Brit).

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    what are you waiting for?

    you´re a walking talking contradiction kid. half of your psyche is dark to you. dark side of the moon.

    Land didn´t silence michael, you have a victim complex.

    firstly, i´m more morally clear than anyone you know probably

    secondly, i´m more germanic than you

    Wagner Reply:

    “Land didn’t silence michael”

    Good one.

    Wagner Reply:

    And I don’t mean Anissimov but that’s another story.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Land often replied to michael. again, irrationality

    Wagner Reply:

    “often”??? You are Fake News. You’ve been infected by the virus of death, which is a karmic curse in your blood and bones.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    often is relative you teenage claptrap

    relatively often, yes. he did reply to him often considering the barrage that this character was

    you´re not the solution to your own problems, you are the creator of them, Wagner

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    i.e. more than a few times. do you have no self-consciousness or correctiveness?

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    on top of how absolutely maladaptive Nice Guy Syndrome it is to think that it´s Land´s duty to answer more than often, or more than occasionally, or even at all any screaming genocidal maniac which farts in his direction

    Wagner Reply:

    It’s everyperson’s duty to counter-refute a refutation. ‘Pajama boys’ was one. I wore pajamas the other day. They’re extremely comfy. Definitely would not want to wear pajamas of the mind.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    —>You’ve been infected by the virus of death, which is a karmic curse in your blood and bones.<

    your solipsism is slipping kid.

    i´m Icelandic. what fucking karmic curse, for viking raids centuries ago?

    who the fuck doesn´t have bad karma then

    i know you want to be good behind this genocidist facade

    the pseudo-Right (as opposed to the real Right, and don´t pull no scotsman pseudofallacy on me) is nothing but a bunch of hurt hearts. it is exactly because of the whining weakness of their hearts (or what Nietzche accurately called nihilism) that the Left dominates. that the Jews dominate. they speak to our hearts with Hollywood movies. the reach them. unless you´re a pretender or a deadbeat.

    firstly, if this is gonna be an attempt at revival through some pseudo-Traditional traditionalism, where only 19th century classical music is allowed and other about as dorky 0,3% popular shit is allowed, it will stay that.

    you´ll have to get over your petty verily all too fucking human pretensions if you want to have good influence. and not a sucker fail influence like your Hitler

    Wagner Reply:

    “I shall no longer be there to see it, but I rejoice on behalf
    of the German people at the idea that one day we will see
    England and Germany marching together against America.” – Hitler

    Ah but on Soviet Earth America marches against YOU!

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    ‘the elimination of the subject is a pre-requisite of world dominion’ – Iain H. Grant

    https://ectpodcast.wordpress.com/2016/01/10/ect-3-nick-land-2/

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    merry fucking Christmas Wagner

    you can do so much better than the whining you sometimes do here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rflsHvtTTGw

    « Uploaded on Dec 15, 2008

    A seasonal message to all, with one of my favourite solstice carols by the H P Lovecraft Historical Society. »

    btw i think it´s important to distinguish between dorks, nerds, and even geeks

    nerd is cool. you can be an aviation engineer and be a nerd

    but a dork is one who thinks he knows what

    he doesn´t actually know. it´s

    a knowledable

    idio

    like a guy who thinks he´s a Kshatriya but is a collector of mass produce

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    Wagner Reply:

    Yeah yeah what’s a good movie to watch? I haven’t seen a good one for so long.

    Atlanteans are avatars of temperance. Hyperboreans of extremity. Both incomplete.

    Wagner Reply:

    I wish they’d make a movie on the Timaeus. Speaking of transhumanism, imagine if kids could absorb Plato’s dialogues thru cartoons. Brain-chips are only half of it, we need a massive reform in education and media.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Sully with Tom Hanks is good. I relate a lot to it.

    Simulators trying to tell what I can´t

    have done and have don

    whilst I have

    !

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « [Deleuze] suffered increasingly severe respiratory symptoms for the rest of his life.[22] In the last years of his life, simple tasks such as handwriting required laborious effort. »

    that this has anything to do with Eckhart, is irrationalist mumbo.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « Although the term Nihilism was coined by the German theologian Friedrich Heinrich Jacobi (1743–1818), its widespread usage began with the 1862 novel Fathers and Sons by the Russian author Ivan Turgenev. The main character of the novel, Eugene Bazarov, who describes himself as a Nihilist, wants to educate the people. The “go to the people – be the people” campaign reached its height in the 1870s, during which underground groups such as the Circle of Tchaikovsky, the People’s Will, and Land and Liberty formed. »

    the Nazi connection is clear.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « Eliade describes the myth of Eternal Return as a refuge from the “terror of history.” Firmly rooted in familiar organic patterns and the cycle of the seasons, it sets the basic template for traditional cultures. By identifying what is yet to come with what has already been timelessly commemorated, it promises the pre-adaptation of existing social arrangements and patterns of behavior to unencountered things, psychologically neutralizing the threat of radically unprecedented eventualities. We have been here before, and somehow we survived. Winter does not last forever. »

    this comment of Land´s from 2011 is Game of Thrones tier, which means 10/10 all pretension aside

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    look i quite liked michael, he was a soft hurt heart underneath the bravado

    i think he´s inventive and creative and often funny

    he´s here again anyway under

    another nom de

    troll

    who can now say that i don´t like the race of jötnar?

    i agree with a lot of his ideas

    and criticism

    but the “autistic” (oblivious to reply) attacks you and he often make are hamartia, misses, aimless

    they are teardowns coming from a place of insufficiency, lacking balance

    which makes Land ignore them, however they were mean

    t. you cannot ask for infinite patience from a

    guy with his own duties. ye ar

    not in an organ

    i-zat

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    « Closely-packed people are more productive. As Alfred Marshall noted in 1920, ‘agglomeration economies’ feed a self-reinforcing process of social compression that systematically out-competes diffuse populations in all fields of industrial activity. »

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    SVErshov Reply:

    people packed quite well in army baraks , airplanes, jails, juhi juhi setlments and in cemetery too. non of it strike me as very productive

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    collen ryan Reply:

    That’s a pretty stupid conclusion.
    How about, productive people can accommodate closer packing?
    People are productive. When productive people are packed together productive concentration happens?
    Before electronic communication, co productivity had to happen in crowded meatspace?
    Open, cooperative people, can live more closely, they happen to be more productive too?
    Productive people are so wealthy they attract hordes of less productive people to pack in around them?
    Productive people were so successful it got crowded they survived?
    I could go on, but Im sure up in productive crowded iceland you can add many of your own examples.
    I notice you talk a lot without saying much, what you do say is snarky and critical, and vaguely leftist. Why dont you take a risk and tell us what you really think, you cant hide behind admins skirts forever can you?

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

    The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.

    The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of Reactionists, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established national industries have been destroyed or are daily being destroyed. They are dislodged by new industries, whose introduction becomes a life and death question for all civilised nations, by industries that no longer work up indigenous raw material, but raw material drawn from the remotest zones; industries whose products are consumed, not only at home, but in every quarter of the globe. In place of the old wants, satisfied by the production of the country, we find new wants, requiring for their satisfaction the products of distant lands and climes. In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.

    The bourgeoisie, by the rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls, with which it forces the barbarians’ intensely obstinate hatred of foreigners to capitulate. It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

    The bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life. Just as it has made the country dependent on the towns, so it has made barbarian and semi-barbarian countries dependent on the civilised ones, nations of peasants on nations of bourgeois, the East on the West.

    The bourgeoisie keeps more and more doing away with the scattered state of the population, of the means of production, and of property. It has agglomerated population, centralised the means of production, and has concentrated property in a few hands. The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments, and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier, and one customs-tariff.

    The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    @G. Eiríksson

    You really should consider doing a blog.
    I would suggest that the bourgeosie, as merchant power, goes back at least to Cromwell, who was financed by them.
    Other than that, a great explication!

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    🙂

    collen ryan Reply:

    what a load of tripe how old are you 17?

    collen ryan Reply:

    In answer to your last question, Every civilization just before their hubris was washed off the face of the earth.

    collen ryan Reply:

    Oh what the fuck.
    GErikson there is nothing new under the sun. Even you are intelligent enough to take your little ditty and turn it around and line by line destroy it. Its rubbish.Its not a true description of what has happened or the past you compare it to, And its even a silliy prediction of whats to come.All that has happened is they have shrunk the antikythera to a pocket size and added a porn feature.The same people are savages today as 2000 years ago the iphones they have bought with foreign aid dont change that. Cities have always had more people than the countryside and people have always wanted the latest thing weather it be Valyrian steel, roman baths, gunpowder,or automobiles.

    If anything has changed it is that they are now given the fiat money to buy the stuff and the stuff is poison so they wont be buying long they or the money will soon collapse.What you describe is NRO circa 1995 neocon quasi libertarian globalism wet dream, its failed and its falling apart.And thats because its not sustainable, those third worlders came at the cost of the first world, it was a giant ponzi scheme and its unwinding.Consumerism is not a culture that sustains civilization, and capital can not survive barbarism. All we have is a degenerate urban ism that always precedes a collapse. Men become effeminate, immigration soars, The great grandchildren of the founding elite become soft and clueless to the rising discontent, and the mobilization of contender empires.And yeah probably every tim this cycles it gets more thunderous the sum of people, acquired knowledge, etc grows. The bigger they are the harder they fall.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    So we´re going back to the land are we?

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    THE CONFUSIONS OF ‘collen ryan THE WHITE SUPREMACIST RACIST’

    [collen ryan] “GErikson there is nothing new under the sun.”
    {AK}: A proponent of both ‘Western civilisation’; whose overriding characteristic is claiming the exceptionalism of ‘Modernist rupture; & ‘cyclical history’; which commonly characterises the Ancient & the Orient; & he rejects Modernity. lol
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “Even you are intelligent enough to take your little ditty and turn it around and line by line destroy it. Its rubbish.”
    {AK}: Yes, a lot are “intelligent enough”, but you’re not, evidently. Your evaluations are worthless, because you lack basic comprehension abilities. You’re just a disconnected-opinion machine.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “Its not a true description of what has happened or the past you compare it to, And its even a silliy prediction of whats to come.”
    {AK}: It is a reasonably valid account of Modernity, that describes the usually emphasised facets. But it doesn’t pretend to be a complete or exhaustive narrative. Neither does it venture any predictions. So, again, your lack of basic comprehension abilities is on display.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “All that has happened is they have shrunk the antikythera to a pocket size and added a porn feature.”
    {AK}: Your rejection of technological progress rejects the only exceptionalising factor that the West could offer as redeeming & compensatory justification for its other failures. Note that you yourself resorted to it over the rocketry, lol.
    Moreover, your reduction of technological development to mere extrapolation of the antikythera’s algorithm corresponds to your hostility to linguistic forms referring to ideas, complexes, &/or processes, beyond the incremental simplicity suggested by that algorithm. Too literal, too Newtonian.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “The same people are savages today as 2000 years ago the iphones they have bought with foreign aid dont change that.”
    {AK}: The West extracts far more monetary value from the ‘Third World’, than the pennies it gives in ‘foreign aid’. That’s just a documented fact. Two thousand years ago, it was your own ancestors that your own incompetent criteria would have called ‘savage’.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “Cities have always had more people than the countryside and people have always wanted the latest thing weather it be Valyrian steel, roman baths, gunpowder,or automobiles.”
    {AK}: Yes, urban population density is usually higher than rural settlements, & urbanites have urban tastes, what a stunning observation!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “If anything has changed it is that they are now given the fiat money to buy the stuff and the stuff is poison so they wont be buying long they or the money will soon collapse.What you describe is NRO circa 1995 neocon quasi libertarian globalism wet dream, its failed and its falling apart.”
    {AK}: The politics of the USA is beset by contradiction. None of it can be resolved by half-baked & ‘dumbed down’ ideas, malicious ignorance, & deliberate stupidity, all of which you excel at.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “And thats because its not sustainable, those third worlders came at the cost of the first world, it was a giant ponzi scheme and its unwinding.”
    {AK}: No. It’s lack of sustainability is the direct result of European greed. The scenario of over-population & feralised militancy conveyed by Neoreaction, actually characterises the rise of Europe, & its ‘colonialism’, on the world-historical stage:
    “And note well — Europe has always been the most densely populated area of the Earth; far more so than Latin America or Asia. Latin America, in fact, is almost under-populated compared to Europe.”
    Pournelle, Jerry (2011-04-22). A Step Farther Out (Kindle Locations 891-893). Jerry Pournelle. Kindle Edition.
    [collen ryan] “Consumerism is not a culture that sustains civilization, and capital can not survive barbarism.”
    {AK}: Consumerism is the socioeconomic technique, form, & order that allowed most expansion of market capitalism. The very expansion, together with other co-implicated revenue streams, further enabling the rise of Europe & the West. The mantra of alleged ‘market autonomy’ is the corollary of this.
    Unless you can precisely specify an actual notion of Western ‘civilisation’ that is both responsible for the rise of Europe & the West, but not bound up with consumerism, colonialism, & alleged ‘market autonomy’, you undermine the notion of sustainable, uniquely Western, ‘civilisation’.
    Nick Land, evidently, has considered this, which is why he subsribes to what he calls “Technocommercialism”. This takes the Western development & focus on technology; & the techniques of market capitalism associated with Modernity; & radicalises them.
    To a degree, it’s a logical move, but it might not be a realistic one. The problem, for Land, & the ‘Right, generally, is its commitment to ineluctable ‘progress’. It is impossible that technological progress not have socially transformative effects. Those effects are unavoidable, & radical in ways beyond any traditional, recuperative ‘political’ understanding that the ‘Right’, or ‘Left’, have to offer. Capitalism dictates continued expansion. The USA, people like you, can’t change; therefore you’re condemned to playing out the logic of your own ignorance. This necessarily leads to conflict & war, whether through ‘NeoCon’ hallucinations, or ‘Tea Party’ delusions, it’s all the same.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [collen ryan] “All we have is a degenerate urbanism that always precedes a collapse.”
    {AK}: That “degenerate urbanism” is the direct result of urbanites being exactly like you. You’re the “degenerate”, you just have a different style of “degeneracy”. That’s why you’re a ‘reactionary’, whereas your ancestors who built the West, weren’t.
    The rest of your stuff is more cliched whining.
    Your thing about the Mysore rockets, of course, neglected their metal casings; it was a bad attempt at baiting, that didn’t work. But it allowed me to bring in vimanas, lol.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    —> » Your rejection of technological progress rejects the only exceptionalising factor that the West could offer as redeeming & compensatory justification for its other failures. Note that you yourself resorted to it over the rocketry, lol. >

    Impressive takedown of michael.

    As for greed, yes,

    Azazel

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This especially nails him

    [collen ryan] “GErikson there is nothing new under the sun.”
    {AK}: A proponent of both ‘Western civilisation’; whose overriding characteristic is claiming the exceptionalism of ‘Modernist rupture; & ‘cyclical history’; which commonly characterises the Ancient & the Orient; & he rejects Modernity. lol
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    ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
    ▬▬

    Indeed,

    Traditionalism can indicate a sign of spiritual sickness (as Nietzsche pointed out), not health. Romanides is right » The biblical tradition as preserved by the Fathers cannot be identified with or reduced to a system of moral precepts or Christian ethics [if it is to be understood properly]. It is rather a therapeutical asceticism » the latter which is what michael needs.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    “G. Eiríksson Says:

    « Closely-packed people are more productive. As Alfred Marshall noted in 1920, ‘agglomeration economies’ feed a self-reinforcing process of social compression that systematically out-competes diffuse populations in all fields of industrial activity. »”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “collen ryan Reply:
    December 20th, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    That’s a pretty stupid conclusion.
    How about, productive people can accommodate closer packing?
    People are productive. When productive people are packed together productive concentration happens?
    Before electronic communication, co productivity had to happen in crowded meatspace?
    Open, cooperative people, can live more closely, they happen to be more productive too?
    Productive people are so wealthy they attract hordes of less productive people to pack in around them?
    Productive people were so successful it got crowded they survived?
    I could go on, but Im sure up in productive crowded iceland you can add many of your own examples.
    I notice you talk a lot without saying much, what you do say is snarky and critical, and vaguely leftist. Why dont you take a risk and tell us what you really think, you cant hide behind admins skirts forever can you?”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    {AK}: It’s worth quoting both comments.
    collen ryan takes around 9 lines of ‘dumbed down’ explication, to say what G. Eiríksson writes in three.
    He then calls this “a pretty stupid conclusion”, & says that G. Eiríksson “talk[s] a lot without saying much”.

    What can be said about this prodigious lack of comprehension, other than the astounding extent of ignorance it shows?
    Moreover, ryan seems uncomfortable with G. Eiríksson’s compression, seeing it as “snarky and critical, and vaguely leftist”. He doesn’t see it as an authentic expression of G. Eiríksson’s actual thoughts. He does all this in a way that suggests he is not used to thinking in this way, & therefore G. Eiríksson cannot think in this way, either. That his limits are G. Eiríksson’s limits, too.

    SVErshov shows far more interpretative subtlety, critiquing G. Eiríksson’s assertion.

    Finally, yes, the logic of concentration, over resources & capital, can increase activity & complexity, in such ways as to enable emergence of novelty or innovation. But is such always the case? Not necessarily.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    @G. Eiríksson

    You really should consider doing a blog.
    I would suggest that the bourgeosie, as merchant power, goes back at least to Cromwell, who was financed by them.
    Other than that, a great explication!

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    collen ryan Reply:

    “be aware of ‘networks’ & ‘clouds’ of relevances” LOL -Ill Just say this, he just wrote this moronic reply about the bourgeoisie yada yada, and you replied you thought it so great he should start a blog. I rest my case morons.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    @collen ryan

    {AK}: ”case morons”? Is that your attempt at a neo-Latin phrase? lol

    collen ryan Reply:

    @G. Eiríksson

    “Closely-packed people are more productive.”

    Notice the period at the end of the stupid statement stupid head commie. Correlation does not equal causation. My off the cuff suggestions for other causes do not qualify under “self reinforcing” unless you accept the first statement as self evident, which obviously some of us dont.
    I suggested among other things, closely packed people might be the effect rather than the cause of productive people.Which is not to say that closely packing might not actually increase IQ or productivity but simply that the evidence is not shown simply asserted without explanation or argument, and my anecdotal experience on public transportation seems to indicate otherwise.
    I left aside the appeal to authority or attribution if you prefer.I left aside that what seems to be your and admins reason for yakking so much [tech driven distributed knowledge] is contradicted by the assertion, though I hinted at where it might tie in, and have fooled you. I suppose i should anticipate your snark and put on the record Im cognizant a case for virtual crowding could be made. Since you dont seem to get im not advocating a position simply pointing out faulty logic.It would be amusing to have you explain how democracy emergence ties in with your theory of IQ and crowds.
    SVE simply inverts G Eriksons assertion by listing other correlations that also cant prove or disprove a causation either, although they contradict G Erikson. I Simply tried to point out some possible theories to illustrate SVEpoint.

    My complaints about G Eriksons behavior had nothing to do with this short comment of his and mostly to do with the type of comment you are making and which he is also guilty. A sort of cognitive chest thumping signifying nothing so much as insecurity.

    Oh I remember now youre that wog that was on about wog tech vs chinese tech, and youre offended, and this is one of your fire spears -er i mean Saturn rockets designed by that country thats on the verge of collapse this month. Now there is a place to test your crowding and IQ theory, on second thought better not.
    I have a suggestion. I think if you ask really nice and offer a lot of natural resources in payment, Britain might again take up the white man burden Gunga din and rule for you again.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    https://is.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6tunn

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    You’re supposed to be aware of ‘networks’ & ‘clouds’ of relevances (correlations & causative factors), according to different possibilities of theoretical configuration. If you’re going to take issue over a detail, do it, & have something worthwhile to say, not simplistic reiteration of your own elementary level understanding. G. Eiríksson is way beyond that.
    There’s nothing wrong with dealing with elements, but you don’t seem to be able to do that either, all you seem to have access to, are badly ideologised notions of causality, so banal, ridiculous, & lacking in logical sense, that remedial therapy is the obvious, called for, response. I think that was shown in the IQ test stuff with another commenter, above.
    The rest of your ad hominem speculations are wrong; & resorting to name-calling is an obvious compensation for your inferiority.
    Busy, that’s your lot, be grateful for that.

    Salger Reply:

    You’re talking to a mud who says they wuz kangz n’ shieet.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Empire is materializing before our very eyes. Over the past several decades, as colonial regimes were overthrown and then precipitously after the Soviet barriers to the capitalist world market finally collapsed, we have witnessed an irresistible and irreversible globalization of economic and cultural exchanges. Along with the global market and global circuits of production has emerged a global order, a new logic and structure of rule—in short, a new form of sovereignty. Empire is the political subject that effectively regulates these global exchanges, the sovereign power that governs the world.

    Many argue that the globalization of capitalist production and exchange means that economic relations have become more autonomous from political controls, and consequently that political sovereignty has declined. Some celebrate this new era as the liberation of the capitalist economy from the restrictions and distortions that political forces have imposed on it; others lament it as the closing of the institutional channels through which workers and citizens can influence or contest the cold logic of capitalist profit. It is certainly true that, in step with the processes of globalization, the sovereignty of nation-states, while still effective, has progressively declined. The primary factors of production and exchange—money, technology, people, and goods—move with increasing ease across national boundaries; hence the nation-state has less and less power to regulate these flows and impose its authority over the economy. Even the most dominant nation-states should no longer be thought of as supreme and sovereign authorities, either outside or even within their own borders. The decline in sovereignty of nation States, however, does not mean that sovereignty as such has declined.

    Throughout the contemporary transformations, political controls, state functions, and regulatory mechanisms have continued to rule the realm of economic and social production and exchange. Our basic hypothesis is that sovereignty has taken a new form, composed of a series of national and supranational organisms united under a single logic of rule. This new global form of sovereignty is what we call Empire.

    A specter haunts the world and it is the specter of migration. All the powers of the old world are allied in a merciless operation against it, but the movement is irresistible. Along with the flight from the so called Third World there are flows of political refugees and transfers of intellectual labor power, in addition to the massive movements of the agricultural, manufacturing, and service proletariat. The legal and documented movements are dwarfed by clandestine migrations: the borders of national sovereignty are sieves, and every attempt at complete regulation runs up against violent pressure. Economists attempt to explain this phenomenon by presenting their equations and models, which even if they were complete would not explain that irrepressible desire for free movement. In effect, what pushes from behind is, negatively, desertion from the cultural and material conditions of imperial reproduction; but positively, what pulls forward is the wealth of desire and the accumulation of expressive and productive capacities that the processes of globalization have determined in the consciousness of every individual and social group—and thus a certain hope. Desertion and exodus are a powerful form of class struggle within and against imperial postmodernity. This mobility, however, still constitutes a spontaneous level of struggle, and, as we noted earlier, it most often leads today to a new rootless condition of poverty and misery. A new nomad horde, a new race of barbarians, will arise to invade or evacuate Empire. Nietzsche was oddly prescient of their destiny in the nineteenth century. « Problem: where are the barbarians of the twentieth century? Obviously they will come into view and consolidate themselves only after tremendous socialist crises. »

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    A.K. said » The scenario of over-population & feralised militancy conveyed by Neoreaction, actually characterises the rise of Europe, & its ‘colonialism’, on the world-historical stage »

    Yet isn´t imperialism/colonialism according to “History” something done by supposedly non-White empires in the past? I think putting Imperialism wholly or even mostly on Whites requires that one believe these past empires had ‘Nordic’ origin

    e.g. » The Akkadian Empire, established by Sargon of Akkad (24th century BC), was an early all-Mesopotamian empire. This imperial achievement was repeated by Hammurabi of Babylon in the 17th century BC. In the 15th century BC, the New Kingdom of Ancient Egypt, ruled by Thutmose III, was ancient Africa’s major force upon incorporating Nubia and the ancient city-states of the Levant.

    Circa 1500 BC in China rose the Shang Empire which was succeeded by the Chou Empire circa 1100 BC. Both surpassed in territory their contemporary Near Eastern empires. The Chou Empire dissolved in 770 BC into feudal multi-state system which lasted for five and a half centuries until the universal conquest of Qin in 221 BC.

    The first empire comparable to Rome in organization was the Neo-Assyrian Empire (916–612 BC). The Median Empire was the first empire within the territory of Persia. By the 6th century BC, after having allied with the Babylonians to defeat the Neo-Assyrian Empire, the Medes were able to establish their own empire, which was the largest of its day and lasted for about sixty years. »

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