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		<title>By: We&#8217;re all Atlanteans here &#124; The Mitrailleuse</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-90024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[We&#8217;re all Atlanteans here &#124; The Mitrailleuse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 01:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Nick Land&#8217;s also on the level here: [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Nick Land&#8217;s also on the level here: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/08/06 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/08/06 &#124; Free Northerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2014 05:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] NRx is about  dividing the world. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] NRx is about  dividing the world. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89377</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The key point is achieving geopolitical exteriority in relation to those with strongly divergent preferences, such that what subsequently happens to them ceases to be your problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key point is achieving geopolitical exteriority in relation to those with strongly divergent preferences, such that what subsequently happens to them ceases to be your problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89374</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“anyone with different preferences can have a state.” 

Only if their preferences are preferred by Gnon. One can desire a commons without its tragedies but people (and populations) are incapable of living in completely mutually beneficial relationships. &#039;Free love&#039; just doesn&#039;t cut it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“anyone with different preferences can have a state.” </p>
<p>Only if their preferences are preferred by Gnon. One can desire a commons without its tragedies but people (and populations) are incapable of living in completely mutually beneficial relationships. &#8216;Free love&#8217; just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: scientism</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89364</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 13:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you just mean different traditions should be left alone, then it&#039;d be aversion to world government, but it reads more like &quot;anyone with different preferences can have a state.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you just mean different traditions should be left alone, then it&#8217;d be aversion to world government, but it reads more like &#8220;anyone with different preferences can have a state.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hurlock</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89346</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of which, I&#039;d rather have no singularty than have the singularity some famous &quot;transhumanists&quot; desire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of which, I&#8217;d rather have no singularty than have the singularity some famous &#8220;transhumanists&#8221; desire.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Warburton</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 11:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On your points regarding universalism, I&#039;ve seen very little much mentioned regarding Carl Schmitt on this. At the heart of his work is a great concern that genuine difference was being supplanted by liberalism and its culturally relative softness, and its (near) total indifference to civil society. First-order politics, to him, were what kept the nomos intact, and its geopolitical boundaries well defined. 

Theologically, he believed that it was the anti-christ who was kidding man into thinking there was a one-fits-all mould for the world (fully forgetting that we&#039;re essentially confrontational, &#039;fallen&#039;, and fundamentally defined by difference-as-identity). I think Peter Turchin&#039;s work grounds this in reality. Schmitt really believed that &#039;fragmentation&#039; was the natural order of things, and the only way in which the second coming would arrive, is if difference was preserved, that real conflict was always a possibility (not a certainty), and not be reduced to internal cathedral-like squabbling/status wars.

His concept of the Katechon is of relevance here too, because he found that the crucial geo-space of the nomos (the roman/christian centred one), kept the anti-christ from arriving before the second coming. So your disgust and distrust for universalism is (deeply) shared by him. The Schmittian Anti-Christ is really the end-game of Jim&#039;s Left Singularity thesis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On your points regarding universalism, I&#8217;ve seen very little much mentioned regarding Carl Schmitt on this. At the heart of his work is a great concern that genuine difference was being supplanted by liberalism and its culturally relative softness, and its (near) total indifference to civil society. First-order politics, to him, were what kept the nomos intact, and its geopolitical boundaries well defined. </p>
<p>Theologically, he believed that it was the anti-christ who was kidding man into thinking there was a one-fits-all mould for the world (fully forgetting that we&#8217;re essentially confrontational, &#8216;fallen&#8217;, and fundamentally defined by difference-as-identity). I think Peter Turchin&#8217;s work grounds this in reality. Schmitt really believed that &#8216;fragmentation&#8217; was the natural order of things, and the only way in which the second coming would arrive, is if difference was preserved, that real conflict was always a possibility (not a certainty), and not be reduced to internal cathedral-like squabbling/status wars.</p>
<p>His concept of the Katechon is of relevance here too, because he found that the crucial geo-space of the nomos (the roman/christian centred one), kept the anti-christ from arriving before the second coming. So your disgust and distrust for universalism is (deeply) shared by him. The Schmittian Anti-Christ is really the end-game of Jim&#8217;s Left Singularity thesis.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89275</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Scientism  -- You&#039;re defining &#039;libertarianism&#039; so broadly it encompasses everything on the Right that isn&#039;t explictly totalitarian. If aversion to world government -- however &#039;right wing&#039; -- is going to be described as &#039;libertarian&#039; then absolutely I am one. (The clear difference between libertarianism and NRx, however, or at least the main one, is clearly noted in the post.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Scientism  &#8212; You&#8217;re defining &#8216;libertarianism&#8217; so broadly it encompasses everything on the Right that isn&#8217;t explictly totalitarian. If aversion to world government &#8212; however &#8216;right wing&#8217; &#8212; is going to be described as &#8216;libertarian&#8217; then absolutely I am one. (The clear difference between libertarianism and NRx, however, or at least the main one, is clearly noted in the post.)</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89273</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, but Singularity isn&#039;t a political project, or regime. At least, insofar as it is (FAI Singleton, etc.) I&#039;d expect NRx to do whatever it could to subvert it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but Singularity isn&#8217;t a political project, or regime. At least, insofar as it is (FAI Singleton, etc.) I&#8217;d expect NRx to do whatever it could to subvert it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/disintegration/#comment-89224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Psy-Ops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2014 04:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the difference is both that a post-libertarian will tell the communist not &#039;everyone has a place in the market&#039; but rather &#039;well if that&#039;s what you want you better get some power, money and some guns&#039; (like what ISIS is doing currently). Basically, if the right is going to reserve a place for itself on the patchwork its only going to be achievable through a &#039;neoreactionary&#039; not libertarian society.  Its like that old (mis)quote &#039;soccer is only made difficult because of the other team&#039;. Well, &#039;dynamic geography&#039; only becomes difficult because of the same reason.  

Also, one could bring up the issue of &#039;living space&#039; as another subversion to the libertarians. If a population succeeds it spreads... &#039;conflict theory&#039; is basically the opposite of the &#039;non-aggression principle&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difference is both that a post-libertarian will tell the communist not &#8216;everyone has a place in the market&#8217; but rather &#8216;well if that&#8217;s what you want you better get some power, money and some guns&#8217; (like what ISIS is doing currently). Basically, if the right is going to reserve a place for itself on the patchwork its only going to be achievable through a &#8216;neoreactionary&#8217; not libertarian society.  Its like that old (mis)quote &#8216;soccer is only made difficult because of the other team&#8217;. Well, &#8216;dynamic geography&#8217; only becomes difficult because of the same reason.  </p>
<p>Also, one could bring up the issue of &#8216;living space&#8217; as another subversion to the libertarians. If a population succeeds it spreads&#8230; &#8216;conflict theory&#8217; is basically the opposite of the &#8216;non-aggression principle&#8217;.</p>
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