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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-59595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2014 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, bullshit.  Nobody knows how to build a closed life support system that is smaller than the planet Earth.  Nobody knows how to build practical extra-terrestrial in-situ resource utilization systems beyond extracting oxygen from Martian CO2.  What we have are a bunch of ideas for experiments that people would like to run.

It&#039;s true that these experiments haven&#039;t been funded seriously, but the reason they aren&#039;t getting funded is because nobody has come up with a way to earn a living in space that makes sense given launch costs of circa $5000/lb., and no one has come up with a convincing story about how they can lower launch costs enough to matter.

First, demonstrate that you can put cargo into orbit for under $100/lb.  Then come up with a business case for building a colony on Mars instead of in Antarctica.  Then come talk to me about funding research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, bullshit.  Nobody knows how to build a closed life support system that is smaller than the planet Earth.  Nobody knows how to build practical extra-terrestrial in-situ resource utilization systems beyond extracting oxygen from Martian CO2.  What we have are a bunch of ideas for experiments that people would like to run.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that these experiments haven&#8217;t been funded seriously, but the reason they aren&#8217;t getting funded is because nobody has come up with a way to earn a living in space that makes sense given launch costs of circa $5000/lb., and no one has come up with a convincing story about how they can lower launch costs enough to matter.</p>
<p>First, demonstrate that you can put cargo into orbit for under $100/lb.  Then come up with a business case for building a colony on Mars instead of in Antarctica.  Then come talk to me about funding research.</p>
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		<title>By: soapjackal</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-59447</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2014 06:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Living life in space was technologically feasible at least 20 years ago, it&#039;s just no one funded it.

Probably because it would require neoreactionary style government for these frontier space arcologies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living life in space was technologically feasible at least 20 years ago, it&#8217;s just no one funded it.</p>
<p>Probably because it would require neoreactionary style government for these frontier space arcologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-58532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesser Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The vetting doesn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s the structural incentives for separatism.  Distance, time, gravity, and the rather different material basis for life will all prevent the kind of close cultural and economic integration that we have here below.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vetting doesn&#8217;t matter.  It&#8217;s the structural incentives for separatism.  Distance, time, gravity, and the rather different material basis for life will all prevent the kind of close cultural and economic integration that we have here below.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganesh</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-58528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ganesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 14:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that the tip of society is brilliant and enlightened, but the broader top is decadent.

Take &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwAQwItEjUo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this video&lt;/a&gt;. This is a discussion amongst the top of 21st century American society. Of course, Elizabeth Warren understands Econ 101 and is intelligent. Yes she isn&#039;t very important. But isn&#039;t there still a sense in which, come on, something has gone wrong and you can&#039;t just blame the proletarians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the tip of society is brilliant and enlightened, but the broader top is decadent.</p>
<p>Take <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwAQwItEjUo" rel="nofollow">this video</a>. This is a discussion amongst the top of 21st century American society. Of course, Elizabeth Warren understands Econ 101 and is intelligent. Yes she isn&#8217;t very important. But isn&#8217;t there still a sense in which, come on, something has gone wrong and you can&#8217;t just blame the proletarians.</p>
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		<title>By: SaturnIn</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-58506</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SaturnIn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 14:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you think of as the top... isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you think of as the top&#8230; isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/05/28 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-58311</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/05/28 &#124; Free Northerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2014 05:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] A revealing internet exchange. The communists  won’t let others leave with bloodshed. Related: E &gt; V. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A revealing internet exchange. The communists  won’t let others leave with bloodshed. Related: E &gt; V. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-57794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 01:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One good thing about arguing with the Left is the win-win potential -- both sides come away thinking they ground the other side to pulp and flushed it down the can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One good thing about arguing with the Left is the win-win potential &#8212; both sides come away thinking they ground the other side to pulp and flushed it down the can.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-57611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Johnson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 15:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The people at the top are not stupid.&quot;

Disagree.

They are not selected for intelligence - in fact the opposite - they weed out intelligence whenever they discover it. They are selected for ideological conformity and bureaucratic infighting.

They have huge structural advantages that allow them to be unintelligent and still remain on top and those structural advantages should not be underestimated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The people at the top are not stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>Disagree.</p>
<p>They are not selected for intelligence &#8211; in fact the opposite &#8211; they weed out intelligence whenever they discover it. They are selected for ideological conformity and bureaucratic infighting.</p>
<p>They have huge structural advantages that allow them to be unintelligent and still remain on top and those structural advantages should not be underestimated.</p>
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		<title>By: Scharlach</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-57598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scharlach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 15:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That was an outstanding dialogue. I wish all our opponents could move beyond pointing and sputtering (although I could tell that he really, really wanted to do just that).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was an outstanding dialogue. I wish all our opponents could move beyond pointing and sputtering (although I could tell that he really, really wanted to do just that).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/doctor-gno/#comment-57513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 11:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Just leave, White Man&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Just leave, White Man&#8221;</p>
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