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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/07/09 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/end-of-the-ratchet/#comment-78295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/07/09 &#124; Free Northerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2014 04:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] already lost. Related: The  solution to civilizational collapse. Related: The  end of the left-ward ratchet? Related: Outprogressing the [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] already lost. Related: The  solution to civilizational collapse. Related: The  end of the left-ward ratchet? Related: Outprogressing the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: JPOutlook</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/end-of-the-ratchet/#comment-75681</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 02:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Land is just running his blog. No need to get worked up over it. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Land is just running his blog. No need to get worked up over it. <img src="http://www.xenosystems.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: JPOutlook</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/end-of-the-ratchet/#comment-75679</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thumbs up to &quot;Peppermint&quot;. Thumbs down to &quot;V.X.X.C.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumbs up to &#8220;Peppermint&#8221;. Thumbs down to &#8220;V.X.X.C.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: R7 Rocket</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 04:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree.

When I saw the map detailing the structure of Pax Americana on this blog, the security forces were missing. It&#039;s foolish to leave them out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>When I saw the map detailing the structure of Pax Americana on this blog, the security forces were missing. It&#8217;s foolish to leave them out.</p>
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		<title>By: R7 Rocket</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 04:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crackdowns cost money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crackdowns cost money.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/end-of-the-ratchet/#comment-75327</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 03:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[unfortunately living through NYC in the early 90s Id have to disagree there seems to be no limit if done incrementally. and white lefties are almost uniformly high IQ and believe the most absurd things imaginable. 
Im not even sure its democracy that&#039;s the problem what we seem to have learned since ww2 is if you own the media and academia and civil service you can pretty much make people believe and do  anything.so can they be retaken maybe the media is susceptible to market forces. the civil service is only interested in job security and academia will fold like a cheap suit as soon as some thugs occupy the faculty lounge. another approach is to make them irrelevant, so again media is susceptible to market forces and may collapse under new medias assaults.If government debt flushes civil servants into the real world be ready to occupy the universities.
the problem wit  democracy might recur but i cant think how that wont happen under the restoration as well, the left has solved this for now with the permanent revolution but its such a bore to those of us of a certain age but to younger people its groundhog day]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unfortunately living through NYC in the early 90s Id have to disagree there seems to be no limit if done incrementally. and white lefties are almost uniformly high IQ and believe the most absurd things imaginable.<br />
Im not even sure its democracy that&#8217;s the problem what we seem to have learned since ww2 is if you own the media and academia and civil service you can pretty much make people believe and do  anything.so can they be retaken maybe the media is susceptible to market forces. the civil service is only interested in job security and academia will fold like a cheap suit as soon as some thugs occupy the faculty lounge. another approach is to make them irrelevant, so again media is susceptible to market forces and may collapse under new medias assaults.If government debt flushes civil servants into the real world be ready to occupy the universities.<br />
the problem wit  democracy might recur but i cant think how that wont happen under the restoration as well, the left has solved this for now with the permanent revolution but its such a bore to those of us of a certain age but to younger people its groundhog day</p>
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		<title>By: peppermint</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 01:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ruling democratic Brazil is a good deal as long as the lights stay on and there are shiny new iPhones every few years.  That requires other things that require other things, and eventually you realize that democracy must die so civilization can live.

Don&#039;t think the people in control of the government are thinking about their futures by importing diversities, except in the narrow sense of who&#039;s going to vote for them in ten years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruling democratic Brazil is a good deal as long as the lights stay on and there are shiny new iPhones every few years.  That requires other things that require other things, and eventually you realize that democracy must die so civilization can live.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think the people in control of the government are thinking about their futures by importing diversities, except in the narrow sense of who&#8217;s going to vote for them in ten years.</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The people seem to be taking their fate into their hands, we&#039;ll see where it leads. They have the right of self defense like every creature on this earth. 

And I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll check with their intellectual betters first.

The women leading continues, the SoCal stop the bus was organized by a nurse who had worked with immigrants and was concerned about disease.

Some people here must live in a different united states.  I&#039;ll bet there&#039;s more than 40 million meso americans afoot, I&#039;m in NJ.

As to massacres/crackdowns hmm.  I don&#039;t know about the former and the latter would be problematic. You can crack down on a few knuckleheads not legions.  Esp when the head crackers are from the people&#039;s own thede.

The nurse who flash mobbed the residents out to defend their town had help from &quot;former border patrol agents&quot; which means current border patrol agents [that&#039;s how things work]. 

It&#039;s completely safe to say Obama has lost the Border Patrol, Fast and Furious killed a young agent a couple of years ago and he&#039;s been a martyr since.  It would be like partying with the Saudis after 9/11 wouldn&#039;t go down well with NYFF/NYPD etc...oh...wait.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people seem to be taking their fate into their hands, we&#8217;ll see where it leads. They have the right of self defense like every creature on this earth. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll check with their intellectual betters first.</p>
<p>The women leading continues, the SoCal stop the bus was organized by a nurse who had worked with immigrants and was concerned about disease.</p>
<p>Some people here must live in a different united states.  I&#8217;ll bet there&#8217;s more than 40 million meso americans afoot, I&#8217;m in NJ.</p>
<p>As to massacres/crackdowns hmm.  I don&#8217;t know about the former and the latter would be problematic. You can crack down on a few knuckleheads not legions.  Esp when the head crackers are from the people&#8217;s own thede.</p>
<p>The nurse who flash mobbed the residents out to defend their town had help from &#8220;former border patrol agents&#8221; which means current border patrol agents [that&#8217;s how things work]. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s completely safe to say Obama has lost the Border Patrol, Fast and Furious killed a young agent a couple of years ago and he&#8217;s been a martyr since.  It would be like partying with the Saudis after 9/11 wouldn&#8217;t go down well with NYFF/NYPD etc&#8230;oh&#8230;wait.</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/end-of-the-ratchet/#comment-75198</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Peppermint,

&quot;There is exactly one way forward – we must change the assumptions of our future leaders, convince them that ruling a functioning civilization&quot;

Nonsense. There&#039;s many ways forward.  And more still to keep moving at all.

Which is ruled out with the future leaders if they come - and they will - from the current leaders unless something changes.

Now if one doesn&#039;t want to face hard truths and their implications, then one can kick the can down the road as far as one&#039;s own choices.  Not to choose for instance.

BTW neither the favelastanis or the future leaders have a problem with Brazil, each gets exactly what  they want in that case.

The middle class stands there knowing the ruin as they pay for it and try to manage above it but are leaderless.

No more Future anything, we live Now.  We do or do not Now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peppermint,</p>
<p>&#8220;There is exactly one way forward – we must change the assumptions of our future leaders, convince them that ruling a functioning civilization&#8221;</p>
<p>Nonsense. There&#8217;s many ways forward.  And more still to keep moving at all.</p>
<p>Which is ruled out with the future leaders if they come &#8211; and they will &#8211; from the current leaders unless something changes.</p>
<p>Now if one doesn&#8217;t want to face hard truths and their implications, then one can kick the can down the road as far as one&#8217;s own choices.  Not to choose for instance.</p>
<p>BTW neither the favelastanis or the future leaders have a problem with Brazil, each gets exactly what  they want in that case.</p>
<p>The middle class stands there knowing the ruin as they pay for it and try to manage above it but are leaderless.</p>
<p>No more Future anything, we live Now.  We do or do not Now.</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/end-of-the-ratchet/#comment-75195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vxxc2014]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s irritating to be correct and foresee it before others, indeed before it&#039;s happened.

Truly thought is more pain than use. 

No projection of consequences seems to stop narrow and immediate self-interest. Even to doom the love of position, power, money and status NOW seems to trump every consideration  other than immediate threats to survival - when it&#039;s too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s irritating to be correct and foresee it before others, indeed before it&#8217;s happened.</p>
<p>Truly thought is more pain than use. </p>
<p>No projection of consequences seems to stop narrow and immediate self-interest. Even to doom the love of position, power, money and status NOW seems to trump every consideration  other than immediate threats to survival &#8211; when it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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