This is a reliable guide to approved thinking within China’s Communist Party:

Blindly copying Western-style democracy can only bring disaster, an influential Chinese Communist Party journal wrote in its latest edition following more than a week of pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong.
Citing enduring violence and turmoil in countries like Afghanistan, Egypt, Iraq and Libya, which have tried to adopt such a system of government, the fortnightly magazine Qiushi said that Western democracy did not suit all countries.
“The West always brags that its own democracy is a ‘universal value’, and denies there is any other form of democracy,” said Qiushi, which means “seeking truth”, in the issue distributed over the weekend.
“Western democracy has innate internal flaws and certainly is not a ‘universal value’; its blind copying can only lead to disaster,” Qiushi added.

It shouldn’t be disappointing to hear such pious invocations of an “other form of democracy”, but only coldly confirming of the worst. It’s all clearly stated.

In the present global order, the Cathedral has no serious external enemies, but only awkward students, who refuse to learn the one and only imaginable lesson in exactly the way, and at exactly the speed, expected of them. The idea that democracy as such, and intrinsically, is fundamentally inconsistent with sustainable social order (as explained by Hoppe, acknowledged by Thiel, and thematized by Moldbug), finds no official representation, anywhere in the world. Even the North Koreans think they’re democrats. At the ideological level, the calamity has already happened, universally.

NRx bores itself by repeating this. It’s a simple and — to ‘us’ — apparently obvious thing. Doubtless it’s correct that mechanical repetition adds vanishingly little at this point, although there’s probably still the need for a succinct statement of the proposition, tightly encapsulated and incandescently lucid, for incessant future reference.

What cannot be long-buried beneath the ennui is the extreme dissident radicality of the counter-revolutionary thesis. To depart from the democratic or evangelical-egalitarian (i.e. Jacobin) faith remains the ultimate heresy against teleo-political modernity. To suggest, even, that there is a question of democracy is countenanced by effectively no one, anywhere. In China, as the narrative goes, the populace is still to be convinced the country is ‘ready yet’ for accelerated democratization (on the Cathedral model — the only one). Look at this, then this, and synthesize. Religious ‘hold outs’ are all that remain. Once the faith moves people, the direction has already been decided — everyone is agreed on that. (OK, not these guys, yet.)

If this topic becomes tedious, it’s all over. Democratization isn’t boring to them. It’s the most exciting thing in the world, and they’re not going to stop doing it.

Our work here has scarcely begun.

Hail Hydra!


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  • E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Says:

    I guess it’s time to write a series of anti-democratic poems. But how to put it clearly? Clarity as a concept in our time seems beguiled by a democratic disease; to ‘be clear’ is interpreted as something similar to ‘comprehensible at X grade reading level’. A concept that cannot be made clear except at a – specialized reading level – is not unclear as such but is indistinguishable from mud to those unable to parse it. On the other hand, to those who venerate the difficult and complex, it is possible to construct mere unclarities as complexities; are they just beyond the reach of your puny understanding? Or is the writer just churning out mud?

    Reading old philosophers gives one an acute sense of this balance; one detects three particular things of note: 1. things which are complex but one understands that they have been made clear by the philosopher; 2. things which the philosopher is saying which one is unable to understand and 3. things which the philosopher says which one recognizes are just unclear mush. (How much of bucket 2 ultimately belongs in 1 or 3 with a greater intelligence or skill? Who knows.)

    Traditionally, height is installed in the poetic diction by use of allusion, that is, reference to works that would be known only by the erudite or particular. These allusions can be fine tuned to be ambiguous or obscure.

    Of course, ‘X grade reading level’ is not determined by complexity of subjects per se as much as complexity of sentence structure and rarity / length of words. Neither guarantees that the work is anything but translated French.


    soapjackal Reply:

    you will probably have more luck making poems that deal with the assumptions of democracies righteousness than straight up beating the thing down.

    Say what you want about moldbug but he has some fantastic sources

    “But how to put it clearly?” I’m not a poet. I think that the style of someone like rudyard kipling translates well enough for many today so its possible to have quality without sacrificing communication.


    Ex-pat in Oz Reply:

    You’re spot on- Gods of the Copybook Headings says it just fine.


    EdwardM Reply:

    And then there’s McDonough’s Song: http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/rudyard_kipling/poems/20740


    Izak Reply:

    Political poetry usually sucks.

    I can appreciate some of Ezra Pound’s economic poems in the Cantos, because he seems like a sort of uniquely rabid madman who has done a ton of seemingly disparate and irrelevant research into a million different directions. His economic poems are like florilegia or miscellanies, but instead of merely collecting different quotations, he collects different literary and written structures, so the actual soil of each flower has to be different.

    But you want to do anti-democracy poems, hmm… and I see your dilemma, you want the form and its readability to follow your own elitist views rather than appeal to democratic ideals….

    Welp, my solution is to not worry about any of that stuff, and just try to write a beautiful poem which is pleasing to the senses. If it’s complicated, let it be complicated. If not, then oh well. All state-funded artwork which wins state-funded prizes is “anti-democratic” in that it seeks to alienate the classes rather than unify them. I think the deliberate goal might actually be class alienation. It’s somewhat ironic. Pre-democracy societies of all races have actually been much better at using artwork and culture to mend the classes and make people feel as one. As a NRx guy, you might find that sort of thing worthless. But I don’t. Poets are in the business of creating illusions and dreams and above all beauty. But much of our society’s survival depends on the manufacture of an ever-increasing amount of beautiful illusions and dreams to keep everyone from killing each other. America is a nation of shadows where no one does anything of importance because they’re constantly being crushed under the weight of artists’ narratives, fables, games, and all other sorts of beautiful demiurgic visions from the corporate media. But as a poet first and foremost (not a politician), you can’t throw away beauty and the way it lulls people into a stupor; you have to creatively exploit that somehow in order to make people see that democracy sucks. If it were me, I would deliberately try to become naive about the question of readability – train myself to avoid thinking about it and become singularly focused on (re?)uniting truth and beauty.


    zimriel Reply:

    Satirical verse, done right, can net you immortality. Pope, Dryden . . .


    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    It’s merely a matter of not abandoning the properties which make poetry powerful for the sake of the political. This is an important counter-revolutionary precept: do not do long term damage to the art for the sake of scoring short-term or medium-term political points.

    Satire, of the Juvenalian sort, almost writes itself for Democracy.

    Posted on October 7th, 2014 at 5:03 pm Reply | Quote
  • whyvert Says:

    Some foreign policy realists have at times whispered that democracy is incompatible with sound and sensible geopolitics — Randall Schweller may perhaps be counted a contemporary one.


    Posted on October 7th, 2014 at 5:08 pm Reply | Quote
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    Posted on October 7th, 2014 at 7:18 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dan Says:

    I think there is an aristocracy in western countries presently, and those aristocrats for their own sakes sing the praises of democracy loudest of all.


    Posted on October 7th, 2014 at 8:51 pm Reply | Quote
  • Dark Psy-Ops Says:

    The ideas of a IQ-measured or literacy-based democracy are the stupidest of all, and dangerous insofar as they target the ‘cognitive elite’ with lures of greater privilege. Democracy sells itself to discontented inferiors, as priests prey on the sick, promising a ‘voice’ in accord with a supposedly more powerful self-valuation (the desire for equality rather than inferiority). In this way, it second-guesses natural order, and in its ambitions of revolt is an explicit act of aggression. I trust literate readers will share a knowing smile at the idea that somehow the collectivized command over one’s person and property becomes more enticing when it is a hypothesized community of genius-level machiavels who are scheming for votes and popularity.

    Democracy replaces thought with a newly-castrated voice and a body shared by all. Left-singularity is its destination.

    (I mistakenly posted this on quote-notes 116 but it belongs here in the diagram)

    Oh yes, Hail Hydra!


    Posted on October 8th, 2014 at 5:38 am Reply | Quote
  • Kgaard Says:


    I would propose that poetry is a dead art form and all efforts in that direction will be wasted. The essay … the website … the music video … the video game. That is the new art form. Remember those neocameral Call of Duty videos Nick posted a few months ago? That is the art of the future. There is no sense trying to write as well as Pope did if the form itself is kaput …


    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Prog thinking. Whether an art form is ‘new’ or not, or how many people view it/use it, is a fundamentally stupid mode of analysis.


    Kgaard Reply:

    Well I had a big epic debate over at Jim’s on this two months ago, so no need to go down that whole road again, but I do disagree. Feel free to compose a classical symphony or do sculpture or paint … but nobody will care and it won’t be real art. It won’t be able to convey anything new about the human reality and condition because those art forms have been exhausted. Literally everything that can be done has been done. That is why there are no famous classical composers, sculptors are painters post 1960. Instead we have famous rock musicians and movie directors. New technology, new art.


    Izak Reply:

    How are you seeing originality as necessary to real artwork?

    Posted on October 8th, 2014 at 8:07 pm Reply | Quote
  • Kgaard Says:

    Otherwise it is something else, no? Decoration, or ritualistic accompaniment. I mean, I guess you could call a 14-year-old’s attempt at classical music (i.e. just somebody learning how to compose, interlocking lines etc) “art” but it’s certainly not GOOD art or effective art. Great art has to move the needle. Good art has to move the reader/listener.

    Maybe my definition is too strict. But if you compose a nice 10-line poem today, isn’t that more like a rural woman making a really nice quilt? More of a craft than an art?


    Posted on October 9th, 2014 at 7:20 am Reply | Quote
  • vxxc2014 Says:

    If the current Chinese regime falls what is it’s most likely replacement then?


    Better keep a bug out bag and standby tickets to Heathrow handy, maybe in the boot of the car.

    They might be morons in England [or not] but they’re White morons. They speak the same English you do, unlike for instance myself [American].

    No, a City dependent on the very American system so despised of International Trade, currency and Global Defense of the Commons [Trade] doesn’t escape the consequences of a fall or even major disruption of said system.




    Posted on October 10th, 2014 at 7:04 pm Reply | Quote

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