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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-120553</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2014 19:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the current Chinese regime falls what is it&#039;s most likely replacement then?

Heh.

Better keep a bug out bag and standby tickets to Heathrow handy, maybe in the boot of the car.

They might be morons in England [or not] but they&#039;re White morons.  They speak the same English you do, unlike for instance myself [American].  

No, a City dependent on the &lt;i&gt; very American system so despised &lt;/i&gt; of International Trade, currency and Global Defense of the Commons [Trade] doesn&#039;t escape the consequences of a fall or even major disruption of said system. 

Bug-Out-Bag

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/essential-preppers-guide-packing-bug-out-bag/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the current Chinese regime falls what is it&#8217;s most likely replacement then?</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>Better keep a bug out bag and standby tickets to Heathrow handy, maybe in the boot of the car.</p>
<p>They might be morons in England [or not] but they&#8217;re White morons.  They speak the same English you do, unlike for instance myself [American].  </p>
<p>No, a City dependent on the <i> very American system so despised </i> of International Trade, currency and Global Defense of the Commons [Trade] doesn&#8217;t escape the consequences of a fall or even major disruption of said system. </p>
<p>Bug-Out-Bag</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/essential-preppers-guide-packing-bug-out-bag/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/essential-preppers-guide-packing-bug-out-bag/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119847</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@Kgaard&lt;/strong&gt;
Otherwise it is something else, no? Decoration, or ritualistic accompaniment. I mean, I guess you could call a 14-year-old&#039;s attempt at classical music (i.e. just somebody learning how to compose, interlocking lines etc) &quot;art&quot; but it&#039;s certainly not GOOD art or effective art. Great art has to move the needle. Good art has to move the reader/listener. 

Maybe my definition is too strict. But if you compose a nice 10-line poem today, isn&#039;t that more like a rural woman making a really nice quilt? More of a craft than an art?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Kgaard</strong><br />
Otherwise it is something else, no? Decoration, or ritualistic accompaniment. I mean, I guess you could call a 14-year-old&#8217;s attempt at classical music (i.e. just somebody learning how to compose, interlocking lines etc) &#8220;art&#8221; but it&#8217;s certainly not GOOD art or effective art. Great art has to move the needle. Good art has to move the reader/listener. </p>
<p>Maybe my definition is too strict. But if you compose a nice 10-line poem today, isn&#8217;t that more like a rural woman making a really nice quilt? More of a craft than an art?</p>
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		<title>By: Izak</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119751</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 02:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How are you seeing originality as necessary to real artwork?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are you seeing originality as necessary to real artwork?</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kgaard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 02:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I had a big epic debate over at Jim&#039;s on this two months ago, so no need to go down that whole road again, but I do disagree. Feel free to compose a classical symphony or do sculpture or paint ... but nobody will care and it won&#039;t be real art. It won&#039;t be able to convey anything new about the human reality and condition because those art forms have been exhausted. Literally everything that can be done has been done. That is why there are no famous classical composers, sculptors are painters post 1960. Instead we have famous rock musicians and movie directors. New technology, new art.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I had a big epic debate over at Jim&#8217;s on this two months ago, so no need to go down that whole road again, but I do disagree. Feel free to compose a classical symphony or do sculpture or paint &#8230; but nobody will care and it won&#8217;t be real art. It won&#8217;t be able to convey anything new about the human reality and condition because those art forms have been exhausted. Literally everything that can be done has been done. That is why there are no famous classical composers, sculptors are painters post 1960. Instead we have famous rock musicians and movie directors. New technology, new art.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119713</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2014 00:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prog thinking.  Whether an art form is &#039;new&#039; or not, or how many people view it/use it, is a fundamentally stupid mode of analysis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prog thinking.  Whether an art form is &#8216;new&#8217; or not, or how many people view it/use it, is a fundamentally stupid mode of analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119615</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 20:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;@&lt;/strong&gt;

I would propose that poetry is a dead art form and all efforts in that direction will be wasted. The essay ... the website ... the music video ... the video game. That is the new art form. Remember those neocameral Call of Duty videos Nick posted a few months ago? That is the art of the future. There is no sense trying to write as well as Pope did if the form itself is kaput ...]]></description>
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<p>I would propose that poetry is a dead art form and all efforts in that direction will be wasted. The essay &#8230; the website &#8230; the music video &#8230; the video game. That is the new art form. Remember those neocameral Call of Duty videos Nick posted a few months ago? That is the art of the future. There is no sense trying to write as well as Pope did if the form itself is kaput &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Psy-Ops</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119285</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 05:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The ideas of a IQ-measured or literacy-based democracy are the stupidest of all, and dangerous insofar as they target the ‘cognitive elite’ with lures of greater privilege. Democracy sells itself to discontented inferiors, as priests prey on the sick, promising a ‘voice’ in accord with a supposedly more powerful self-valuation (the desire for equality rather than inferiority). In this way, it second-guesses natural order, and in its ambitions of revolt is an explicit act of aggression. I trust literate readers will share a knowing smile at the idea that somehow the collectivized command over one’s person and property becomes more enticing when it is a hypothesized community of genius-level machiavels who are scheming for votes and popularity.

Democracy replaces thought with a newly-castrated voice and a body shared by all. Left-singularity is its destination.

(I mistakenly posted this on quote-notes 116 but it belongs here in the diagram)

Oh yes, Hail Hydra!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ideas of a IQ-measured or literacy-based democracy are the stupidest of all, and dangerous insofar as they target the ‘cognitive elite’ with lures of greater privilege. Democracy sells itself to discontented inferiors, as priests prey on the sick, promising a ‘voice’ in accord with a supposedly more powerful self-valuation (the desire for equality rather than inferiority). In this way, it second-guesses natural order, and in its ambitions of revolt is an explicit act of aggression. I trust literate readers will share a knowing smile at the idea that somehow the collectivized command over one’s person and property becomes more enticing when it is a hypothesized community of genius-level machiavels who are scheming for votes and popularity.</p>
<p>Democracy replaces thought with a newly-castrated voice and a body shared by all. Left-singularity is its destination.</p>
<p>(I mistakenly posted this on quote-notes 116 but it belongs here in the diagram)</p>
<p>Oh yes, Hail Hydra!</p>
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		<title>By: E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119261</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 04:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s merely a matter of not abandoning the properties which make poetry powerful for the sake of the political. This is an important counter-revolutionary precept: do not do long term damage to the art for the sake of scoring short-term or medium-term political points.

Satire, of the Juvenalian sort, almost writes itself for Democracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s merely a matter of not abandoning the properties which make poetry powerful for the sake of the political. This is an important counter-revolutionary precept: do not do long term damage to the art for the sake of scoring short-term or medium-term political points.</p>
<p>Satire, of the Juvenalian sort, almost writes itself for Democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: zimriel</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119190</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satirical verse, done right, can net you immortality. Pope, Dryden . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satirical verse, done right, can net you immortality. Pope, Dryden . . .</p>
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		<title>By: EdwardM</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/enthusiasm/#comment-119173</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And then there&#039;s McDonough&#039;s Song: http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/rudyard_kipling/poems/20740]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there&#8217;s McDonough&#8217;s Song: <a href="http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/rudyard_kipling/poems/20740" rel="nofollow">http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/rudyard_kipling/poems/20740</a></p>
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