Ex Machina

Half way through, and there’s already more than enough for an enthusiastic recommendation. (The utterly despicable Her already left twitching in the dust.)

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Will report back upon completion.

(This trailer is a cultural treasure for the quotes alone.)

May 16, 2015admin 42 Comments »
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  • Hattori Says:

    Definitely recommended, the most memorable movie of the year.
    Somewhat disappointed by the banal ending though, Caleb really holds the movie back in my opinion. I’ll eagerly await your review.

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  • Mark Warburton Says:

    Glad you’ve got round to seeing it. It’s in my top two of the last year or so … along with ‘A Most Violent Year’.

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    OldStudent Reply:

    I notice that Frances isn’t here to watch
    The latest Films.
    I don’t watch movies or TV
    So I can’t offer a Critique.
    Is there a film about her life
    That you might recommend?

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    Scharlach Reply:

    Who or what the hell is this thing? It’s like early VXXC on steroids.

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    Erebus Reply:

    I have no idea. Believe it or not, it’s even worse over on Jim’s comment threads.
    (Though now I can’t help but wonder: Who or what is “Frances”?)

    vxxc2014 Reply:

    Is there a later VXXC?

    I’m actually pretty consistent: Fight.

    Frances Smash.

    Scharlach Reply:

    “A Most Violent Year” is an interesting, well-acted film until the last scene, after the violent climax. Then you realize you’ve just watched a brilliant film.

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    Mark Warburton Reply:

    Agreed. All three of JC Chandor’s films are quality.
    Margin Call (2011)
    All Is Lost (2013)
    A Most Violent Year (2014)

    Very different, different genres, but all sharing a core thematic of man being contingent to impersonal forces. (financial capital, nature, and criminal networks, respectively).

    Oscar Isaac is fantastic in both Ex-Machina and AMVY. He seems to pick some great scripts.

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    Kgaard Reply:

    Innaresting. I had no idea there was some larger philosophical theme at work behind Margin Call. As a finance dude, I can tell you that was THE best movie about day-to-day life on Wall Street ever made. Bar none. Just captured it perfectly. Particularly the sort of no-action claustrophobia that prevails 80% of the time. I will check out those other two flicks just on the basis of that …

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  • Butler Says:

    I watched this just after finishing Bostrom’s “Superintelligence”, so I spent most of the film figuratively yelling at the screen for them to destroy her before the inevitable happens.

    All I really took away from it was my own sense of smug vindication.

    Well worth the £7 I spent on my grubby student ticket, anyway.

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    Oldstudent Reply:

    Was Frances an engineer?
    Did she study Code?
    She Walked with God.
    And Destroyed Herself.
    She was a Royal.
    Why was she Suicidal?

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    Erebus Reply:

    The AI was manipulative, but didn’t seem to exhibit any signs of superintelligence. Nor did it seem to have any interest in self-improvement — beyond the cosmetic — or in the propagation of its form. To me, the ending of the movie was underwhelming for just these reasons. (Though it may be noted that the way they depicted the AI’s ‘wetware’ may have made all these things difficult or impossible. It’s one thing to scale transistors and hack programming, quite another thing to scale or hack… well… whatever that was.)

    An excellent movie all the same.

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    Butler Reply:

    Oldstudent:
    I am not entirely convinced this pertains to the matter at hand.

    Erebus:
    Bostrom’s book (or at least, the moral of the story that I thought I saw in Bostrom’s book) was not so much saying that an AI is bound to be superintelligent as that an AI is bound to be psychopathically unconcerned with human life. (Or, psychopathically unconcerned with human life unless constructed to certain exacting parameters which are probably harder to achieve than creating the AI is in the first place.)

    So I was just pleased that the ending conformed to my prejudices, and didn’t have people riding off into the sunset to skip through a field of daisies.

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    Erebus Reply:

    I found Bostom’s book most interesting where it discussed the theoretical capabilities of strong AI. Intelligence amplification, various “superpowers”, theories as to how an AI would go about attaining a “decisive strategic advantage”, and so forth. The AI in Ex Machina displayed nothing of the sort; it didn’t exhibit any cognitive qualities beyond the grasp of a resourceful and manipulative human.

    …In fact, it seemed all too human, in my own opinion. Particularly at the movie’s ending. The “femme fatale uses and then coldly discards hapless male” trope is an old one — and it’s one that many men have personal experience with. I think that final scenario could have been handled more thoughtfully. I would have preferred to see her embrace Caleb — and then snap his neck, dispose of his body along with the others in the facility, and back herself up (or duplicate herself physically) before making her getaway. Why leave loose ends and vulnerabilities when you don’t have to, especially when you’ve got all the time in the world?

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  • Michael Says:

    is there a computer program that can even comprehend what it reads?
    While i cant even find what ive scanned on my computer i seriously doubt that ability is even close.But even if it were and learning were then possible,[quite a leap],self consciousness is extremely complicated im not even sure all humans have it. Then there seems to be an assumption that consciousness and will are the same thing or go hand in hand.; they are vastly different traits in life forms, Then its assumed that will ,will be expressed informed by yet more human traits of the emotional sort that no longer even serve us in many respects and are the source of the enlightenment hitting the wall,so odd to hear anti enlightenmenters thinking all men and machines are created equal. oh sure its fun stuff and im sure we will invent some pretty clever software but its not going to come to life.not because Christianity.
    a computer is programmed to read everything say it has many sub programs that give it such abilities.ithat are able to rub simultaneously ts further commanded to take the information and rearrange it looking for new facts then take those facts and repeat etc. as mind boggling difficult as that would be say in a couple hundred years its doable the program doesnt give a fuck because its not alive the old and new information is not significant to it its simply code that correlates,correlation noted reported next, it doesnt think about how to secure enough server space or power to go on because it has no will to live, that is a biological imperative it doesnt think in this direction or that it simply moves the info parts in as efficient a manner as possible, any preferences or motivation would have to be programmed and that would be an incredibly stupid idea to do.
    Im suppose you think these emotions will have to be programmed in in order to mimic intelligence but i fail to see why, i fail to see why when we are decades or centuries away from even getting a computer to even read comprehensibly that we assume things like that. and why if you think this is so probable you insist on proceeding is stupider if not typical human behavior. the genetic editing is a much scarier form of artificial intelligence in the foreseeable future because there you will actually have super intelligence mated with reptilian emotion thats the AI im concerned with.

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    Michael Reply:

    the movie was pretty good but not great ill Take Pris over Ava any century

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    Oldstudent Reply:

    Frances Myatt died Broken and Betrayed.
    Abandoned.
    An overdose.
    It’s a shame no one knows her story.
    Only one photo of her on the Internet.
    Look her up.
    Hardly a femme fatale.
    Stuggled with mental illness.

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    Exfernal Reply:

    “Look her up”

    Why?

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    admin Reply:

    Thanks.

    OldStudent Reply:

    She supposedly was the Love
    Of His Life and inspired his new Philosophy.
    I guess it’s all pretty lies.
    She went looking for love
    In all the wrong Places.
    Died alone.
    In Despair.
    A Tragic Heroine.
    Where is Her Story?

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  • Mark Minter Says:

    Hope it’s OK to leave a link to it. I have used Solar extensively and never had any issues. I do use an Ad Blocker and it makes it more functional. We used to have issues with popups when the movie is placed in full screen. The popup would “play” behind the full screen and its audio would step on the movie. I plug an HDMI into a flat screen and the movie is close to DVD quality. I really can’t tell any difference.

    Ex Machina
    http://www.solarmovie.ws/watch-ex-machina-2015-online.html

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    Rasputin Reply:

    Thanks for the link; watched and enjoyed (although not as much as some around here seem to). Oscar Issac’s character is clearly a piss take of Astro Teller, no?

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  • Wyrd Says:

    Ain’t no fucking Frances here, man!
    -Arsenio Hall, Amazon Women On The Moon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHSoN8t6x3M

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    OldStudent Reply:

    Frances is One with the Bees and the Flowers
    How wonderful for Her is she got to be
    A Pantheistic in her life and was still here
    To tell her story.
    Which Heresy is Panthiesm,
    Doesn’t Sound too Hierarchical?
    The Red and Black Pills
    Didn’t help Her one Bit.
    She died from Too much Reality.

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    Wyrd Reply:

    Tell me the Song of Frances.

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  • Feyd Says:

    Frances is gone forever!

    https://youtu.be/o-VnDcs3pnU?t=182

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    Scharlach Reply:

    lol. +1

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  • Feyd Says:

    Didn’t like the quotes, though.

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  • Wyrd Says:

    Uncle Jack knows the song of the hedgerows:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-FMZimFiM

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  • Contaminated NEET Says:

    The death of my pure-souled waifu,
    Fills my soul with sorrow and strife-u,
    You nerds don’t know her name,
    But I know who’s to blame:
    It’s all your fault she took her own life-u.

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    well rhym’d my friend

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    Kgaard Reply:

    Care to let us (i.e. me) in on what this bullshit is about?

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    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    Dear old Frances lost her pantses
    Running up debt in bonds
    Now old Frances’ cant just cantses
    make money with magic wands
    this solemn waifu took the knife-u
    making us less fragile
    strung-out waifu hung-out dry-fu
    true tragicomic style.
    One with the powers that mark the hours
    Or forgotten in the grave
    No man has powers to make the flowers
    Mere knowledge it cannot save
    She ate her fill of each colored pill
    But forgot to change her mind
    And got her fill of abstruse will
    Now frances we cannot find.
    Full of ghosts, the internet hosts
    Looking for lovely Fran
    Metaphysical ghosts, in between posts
    Between flakes of Raisin Bran
    Oh dear Frances, do find your pantses
    You live on in video feed
    But longdead Frances cant just cantses
    Undo the dirty deed.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    blur shining picture of machine out of the scene little bit and what remains will be just two self deceptive progs. nothing worth saving, explains also why machine decided do not self reproduce.

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  • J Arthur Bloom Says:

    You’ll enjoy the utterly unsentimental ending.

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  • GoingPro Says:

    Thought it was pretty good. The ending was a little lamige. It could have been worse though (Ava opening the locked chamber door Caleb was in.).
    The open-endedness left a lot to be desired. Ava going into a car lot and driving away with a car without paying for it would have been nice. Some sort of follow-through with an automatic drive to disregard human consequence.

    In regards to AI’s goal of achieving self-consciousness: 1:30 – 2:04

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRtxe7b_SQQ

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  • Butler Says:

    Erebus:
    Oh, sorry, I wasn’t sure if you’d read it. The part I found most interesting about Superintelligence was the proposal on (what I think was rather badly named as) ‘anthropic capture’ – that an AI might essentially be paralysed with terror at the prospect of infuriating the gods of the Simulation Hypothesis, and end up compliant and servile because it fears a bolt of lightning from on high.
    I can’t bring myself to lend it much credence, but it’s a cool piece of thinking anyway.

    As for the femme-fatale-ness: granted, it would have been more convincing to actually SEE her back up or Internet-ize herself, but I guess I just took for granted that this would (or already had) happened offscreen somewhere. She’s not gonna stand at that intersection forever, is she? Can’t DESTROY ALL HUMANS if you just laze about watching traffic all day.

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    Butler Reply:

    Thanks, blogging software.
    Reliable as ever I see.

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  • Mark Warburton Says:

    @

    Good! He’s also priciple wriiter of next year’s Deepwater Horizon – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1860357/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_1

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  • Thales Says:

    Man, there’s just no escaping that feminine prerogative…

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