Comments on: Exit notes (#1)

By: Kgaard

Kgaard — Fri, 27 Jun 2014 05:28:04 +0000

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/07/the-great-secession/372288/

Aaaaand … right on cue. This Atlantic author bemoans the desire of fundamentalists to exit-in-place.

By: peppermint

peppermint — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 18:07:08 +0000

And the cost for the pajama boy is even greater when more powerful personal weapons become more common.

this is backwards. more powerful personal weapons equalize – divisions of riflemen vs the bow of ulysses.

And more expensive and even more powerful weapons, tanks and drones, put power in the hands of those who have the ability to procure them.

By: Alrenous

Alrenous — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:44:53 +0000

@admin

Defeat is possible but a bad idea. I would give specifics but it’s not like it matters and it is like my paranoia might not be, because they are out to get me.

By: Alrenous

Alrenous — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 10:29:48 +0000

This is a market economy. You sell your castle. Liquidate. Then buy a new one at your destination. We basically have teleportation already, if you think about it, it’s just slow.

By: Kgaard

Kgaard — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 05:36:59 +0000

Yes this is what I keep thinking about: Where in particular does one exit TO if one is currently in the US? I’d say at this point my main beef with the US is female obesity and the disappearance of smart WASPy women through three generations of super-low fertility (as evidenced in the disappearance of the Episcopal Church as a serious force).

Seems to me the logical place to go is East Europe. But then you’re a foreigner and the languages are rough. Russia would be ideal (much more useful language) but the visa situation there is permanent hassle. Ditto Kazakhstan and Belarus. Plus the winters are bad in Europe. So you’d be in Europe for the summers and someplace in South America for the winters. Could be an exhausting lifestyle.

The problem with Asia is that it just exacerbates the negatives caused by excessive immigration into the US (i.e. too many people with whom one has nothing in common).

The Justine Tunney article was quite good in making the case FOR exit — and she had a great list of the beefs of geeks. I’m not a computer person myself but the points were solid.

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 26 Jun 2014 00:03:03 +0000

what we ought to be thinking about is the window of opportunity is closing for either how to slow down the beast how to freely communicate after the collapse how to enforce exit or voice and avoid compromise these would be things clever fellows would think about technically and politically all non PC thought could be shut down and prosecuted tomorrow whats your fallback
they are using NSA server farms and the IRS and Drones for political use and telling Conservative inc congressional tribunals go fuck yourself my dog ate the emails you think there’s anything they would stop at now?

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 23:53:39 +0000

yeah except for reversion to the IQ mean. we could only let in the over 145 IQs from Somalia and Guatemala and India but their children and grandchildren unto the 10 generation will revert to the low IQ and as you point out Somalia Guatemala and India will suffer which is a two edged sword. This is the problem with DE the throne and alter thing really dont stand up no ones explained a workable Cameralism that leaves the science that dare not speak its name. So sure we are not haters we are scientists but the reality is how does a free economy work with genetically unequal citizens either they drag you down or take you over and who can blame them.

By: fotrkd

fotrkd — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:44:08 +0000

Not if you take it with you.

By: scientism

scientism — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:36:02 +0000

If your castle is under siege and you escape, you’ve surrendered the castle. Seems like a fair use of the term.

By: R7 Rocket

R7 Rocket — Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:33:06 +0000

Except that pajama boys aren’t good soldiers and make for very poor leaders of men at arms. A pajama boy has to pay more to the troops than a natural war leader would. And the cost for the pajama boy is even greater when more powerful personal weapons become more common. A natural war leader, or even better, a tribal leader, is much able to cope with such a situation.

The problem is James Theory singularity style extremism

I wouldn’t call that a problem. I would call that an exploit. And so would 4chan.