Jacobite 3

How sterile modern cities bred the far right.

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  • SVErshov Says:

    When left trying to act as right that is when something ‘agonizingly embarrassing upon close inspection’ happen.

    Regarding infertility yes is it big and growing problem. If previously only women was blamed, now in about 50 ‰ cases it is male who infertile.

    But IQ shredder, a bit too far fetched. Infertility medically covered, completely. Nowadays so many options exist for infertile couples, they can have a tiger son not only human one.

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  • Hegemonizing Swarm Says:

    > “The radically decoded Internet persona – optionally anonymous, fabricated, and self-defining – seems no more than an extrapolation from the emergent norms of urban existence. ”
    > “Burn the cities to the ground”

    If radically decoded Internet identity is the extrapolation of the norms of urban existence,
    Wouldn’t that imply fighting the cities is yesterday’s battle? Sure, the cities are still hotbeds of these norms.
    But seeing how communication, meeting up, association, especially by the younger generations, is mediated by applications on the Internet, the norms of the global city are spreading without heed to geography.

    The new “Maoist” slogan would be “Burn the Internet to the ground”. Good luck with that.

    > “Education expenses alone explain much of this. School fees are by far the most effective contraceptive technology ever conceived. ”

    … on the other hand, the Internet also makes education and information cheaper and more widely available. More generally we can use technology to reduce the overhead of childrearing.

    If the goal (set at a society level) is to get high-IQ women to reproduce, typical leftist policies such as giving paid leave after childbirth, as well as day care centers at workplaces, and encouraging working remotely, start to make sense. This reduces the cost, as well as perceived hassle, of reproduction.

    This is not a new, nor unknown, problem in European countries. You’re not going to convince, for example, my sister, who does neurological research, to have children, with Abrahamic religious rhetoric. If anything that will have the opposite effect. You’d better convince her that smart children have a promising future, instead of just being bullied by neo-Maoists.

    Another valid thing to ask would be, while still at the societal level: Do we need a lot of children? Why?
    Not to fill “jobs” at least: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-chart-spells-out-in-black-and-white-just-how-many-jobs-will-be-lost-to-robots-2017-05-31 is probably an optimistic projection.

    > “How do we make practical and technical sense of social solution searches in general?”

    Do realize you’re getting into the accursed game of trying to engineer a society.
    Instead of chasing solutions to problems, it’d be necessary to define goals.
    Then try to find the extremely non-linear and non-straightforward ways of accomplishing them, and a way to enforce those.

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    Hegemonizing Swarm Reply:

    Also:

    > has tended relentlessly to convert children from productive assets into objects of luxury consumption

    If people, on average, are turning into cost centers instead of profit centers, is that the fault of urbanization? Or is it the result of automation? Farming is increasingly automated too, so it’s not that children outside urban centers are, everything else being equal, more productive assets.

    So is it that bad if children are “objects of luxury consumption? People strive for objects of luxury consumption. Maybe “luxury” is exactly the angle to encourage parents to invest in children.

    As the world is reaching maximum carrying capacity, K-selection starts to dominate instead of r-selection. The expansion phase of humanity is over (unless maybe: colonization of space? given how expensive life support is in space I’d put my doubts into that being any different.)

    I’m trying hard to think why any of this would be bad.

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    Erebus Reply:

    >”Another valid thing to ask would be, while still at the societal level: Do we need a lot of children? Why?”

    It’s not for economic reasons.

    We don’t, in fact, need high birth rates — but the most wretched specimens of humanity are reproducing, and far faster than we are. As has been said many times, “the future belongs to those who show up for it.” Current trends are profoundly dysgenic, and are obviously downright disastrous insofar as Western culture is concerned. There is, therefore, a cultural imperative to support high birth rates. There may even be a moral imperative. How the West handles the next few decades could well determine not just the future of humanity as a species, but even if we are to have a future at all.

    We’re in a conundrum: We either breed, or we destroy competing cultures and societies while we still can, or we resolve to die. At present, it looks like the last option is the one we have collectively selected. As such, men like us can only take solace in technological dei ex machina — the possibility that either we shall soon be able engineer humans out of subhumans, or that the last of us shall be able to take on the rest of the world… and win.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    This is all masking the actual issue: modernity is despair-inducing. The surpassing youth-suicide rates and drug overdose rates all serve to correlate with dropping TFR to indicate that there’s something missing; I suspect just as telecommuting ultimately proved incapable of replacing working in the office, similar challenges happened with replacing human friendships with online mediated ones.

    This is also why the centralization of cities continues. In the end, technology really isn’t the solution; technology is a blind god that if anything, serves to enable short-term impulses and trap us in a variety of forms of addiction. It enables the ultimate death drive.

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    Erebus Reply:

    What you say about modernity may be true, but what can possibly be done about it at this point? And if you think that things are bad now, just wait.

    Technology is, in the end, what one makes of it. For some it is indeed just a distraction. Yet what else can offer solutions to the mess we find ourselves in? Not religion, surely. If we’re being reasonable, and sticking to the realm of the possible, the question “what can be done?” must always be answered with reference to some technology or other.

    Technological maximization has long been, and is increasingly, attractive as a terminal value. We’ll need to engineer ourselves out of this mess.

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    Wagner Reply:

    But think of what Foucault called “technologies of the self”, such as stoicism, askesis, etc. Religion is a technology and man is a spiritual animal. A religion of technology seems to be what you’re proposing, ironically, lol.

    Wagner Reply:

    Oh I guess I will use this as an excuse to tell a joke I’ve been sitting on:

    Foucault was literally pozzed.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Wagner is right, religion properly is technology. The latter literally means logos of skill, or logic of craftiness, if you will. Etymologically that is.

    Roman religio is rites. Technical rites. Esoterics is mathematics. It is the technology of grand Temples and war-machines. All this was profoundly religious.

    ▬» In so far as the Romans had a religion of their own, it was not based on any central belief, but on a mixture of fragmented rituals, taboos, superstitions, and traditions which they collected over the years from a number of sources.
    To the Romans, religion was less a spiritual experience than a contractual relationship between mankind and the forces which were believed to control people’s existence and well-being. »

    Any sufficiently enough understood religion is indistinguishable from technology.

    Erebus Reply:

    Those particular “technologies of the self” you mention have been ingrained for millennia into the psyche of our race. Si monumentum quaeris, circumspice. Where have stocisim and askesis led us?

    Technological maximization, in the sense I spoke of it, is a goal-oriented terminal value which provides a sense of purpose that, in the main, even nonbelievers in the transcendent and those ignorant of philosophical traditions can lose themselves in. I suppose it could be considered a sort of materialist mysticism: Technics as salvation itself; possibly enough to shore up our esprit de corps and combat the crisis of nihilism we now find ourselves in. (Spengler would say that technology is a cruel and unnatural master, which drives us with a whip, as though we were slaves. We should see that our taskmaster is, to the contrary, benevolent under the circumstances, and that the alternative to service is annihilation.)

    I’ve long maintained that the only credible form of transcendentalism, these days, is techno-transcendentalism. Only through it can the empty rites and promises of the old religions be meaningfully fulfilled. Society itself can perhaps be rectified — remember Machiavelli’s basic argument that good laws follow from good arms, which in turn follow from good religion. In this case, it should be clear how good arms would follow a good religion!

    Wagner Reply:

    “Where have stocisim and askesis led us?”

    Scientism is a form of asceticism. Scientists are like monks only stricter (the ideal scientist anyway). They’ve renounced everything, only unlike monks of yore they’ve gone further to include the lies of god the father and judge, and the subordination of the true to the good. This doesn’t come without its disadvantages. Scientists and qualia are not exactly the best of pals, and in qualia lies some of the most fundamental aspects of being human, foremost among them sinfulness or fallenness, and their opposite, redemption or forgiveness. Does technology tell the scientist if he’s been a very bad boy? Or that he doesn’t have to dwell in the mire of guilt for it? Or that he ought to? How can we hope to grow morally if science is our religion strictly speaking? I mean, it’s part of the definition of science that its very definition is open to change, but the way things stand now it would be an equivocation to say that science provides anything remotely similar to a decalogue, and it would be a pure larp to claim that certain thou shalts are total bunkum.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Yes, absolutely, dei ex machina as you say.

    ▬» The original meaning of the term ascesis – from άσλέω, “to train” – was simply “training” and, in a Roman sense, discipline. The corresponding Indo-Aryan term is tapas (tapa or tapo in Pāli) and it has a like significance: except that, from the root tap, which means “to be hot” or “to glow,” it also contains the idea of an intensive concentration, of glowing, almost of fire.
    With the development of Western civilization, however, the term ascesis (or its derivatives) has, as we know, taken on a particular meaning that differs from the original. Not only has it assumed an exclusively religious sense, but from the general tone of the faith that has come to predominate among Western peoples, a asceticism is bound up with ideas of mortification of the flesh and of painful renunciation of the world: it has thus come to represent the method that this faith usually advocates as the most suitable for gaining “salvation” and the reconciliation of man, weighed down by original sin, with his Creator. As early as the beginnings of Christianity the name “ascetic” was applied to those who practiced mortification by flagellation of the body.
    Thus, with the growth of modem civilization. all that asceticism stood for gradu­ally and inevitably became the object of strong dislike. If even Luther, with the resentment of one unable to understand or tolerate monastic disciplines, could refuse to recognize the necessity, value, and usefulness of any ascesis, and could substitute it by exaltation of pure faith, then humanism, immanency, and the new life cult were brought from their standpoint to heap discredit and scorn upon asceticism, broadly associating such tendencies with “medieval obscurantism” and with the aberrations of “historically outdated ages.” And even when asceticism was not dismissed out of hand as pathological or as a kind of sublimated masochism, all sorts of incompatibili­ties to our ways of life were affirmed. The best known and most overworked of these is the antithesis supposed to exist between the ascetic, static, and emasculated Orient, renouncer and enemy of the world, and the dynamic, positive, heroic, and progressive Western civilization.
    Unfortunate prejudices such as these have succeeded in gaining a foothold in people’s minds; even Friedrich Nietzsche sometimes seriously believed that asceti­cism only attracted the “pallid enemies of life,” the weak and disinherited, and those who, in their hatred of themselves and the world, undermine with their ideas the civi­lizations created by a superior humanity. Furthermore, recent attempts have been made to provide “climatic” explanations of asceticism. Thus, according to Gunther, the Indo-Germans, under the influence of an enervating and unaccustomed climate in the Asiatic lands they had conquered, came slowly to regard the world as suffering »

    ▬» Once detachment, viveka, is interpreted mainly in this internal sense, it appears perhaps easier to achieve it today than in a more normal and traditional civilization. One who is still an “Aryan” spirit in a large Eu­ropean or American city, with its skyscrapers and asphalt, with its poli­tics and sport, with its crowds who dance and shout, with its exponents of secular culture and of soulless science and so on-among all this he may feel himself more alone and detached and nomad than he would have done in the rime of the Buddha, in conditions of physical isolation and of actual wandering. »

    Whatever enabled the Roman legions to form and conquer was not empty. Religion for them wasn’t what it was for Christianity or Moderns. Fides, i.e. Faith, was a Roman goddess, of trust. Not a sentimentality and a prostrating before the Other.

    As Numa Denis Fustel de Coulanges describes in his « La cité antique » ▬»
    Religion was the sole factor in the evolution of ancient Greece and Rome, the bonding of family and state was the work of religion, that because of ancestor worship the family, drawn together by the need to engage in the ancestral cults, became the basic unit of ancient societies, expanding to the gens, the Greek phratry, the Roman tribe, to the patrician city state, and that decline in religious belief and authority in the moral crisis provoked by Roman wealth and expansion doomed the republic and resulted in the triumph of Christianity and the death of the ancient city state. [1] »

    Religion is simply a vector.

    A vector for experiences. It can be a vector for merely sentimental experiences, or something more rapturous. Rupturous. Disruptive. Kundalini should work for someone like yourself, Erebus, as we’re supposed to have greater access to currents in the Kali Yuga, and it is already in us all. It’s not a word for hocus pocus, but something that is supposed to describe and does describe flows in the body, related to the libidinal. More than a few of the readers here have experiences with them. This is the chief flow around which religious rites aggregate. The direction of this life or libidinal current. Where doth it channel? You will see that all rites, customs, of all nations, even in modernity, of invididuals too, are around, as it were, regulating this current. People have parties. That’s typically a libidinal expression. Or they channel it into design, manufacturing, war.

    According to Fustel de Coulanges the original Roman and Greek religions were very simple. It was simply a filial cult around fire. Naturally, there were shamanic practices also, and a psychogeography of affects and inspirations around one’s locality. Someone who takes walks outside may know what I am talking about. ☻▬» Psychogeography is an approach to geography that emphasizes playfulness and “drifting” around urban environments. It has links to the Situationist International. Psychogeography was defined in 1955 by Guy Debord as “the study of the precise laws and specific effects of the geographical environment, consciously organized or not, on the emotions and behavior of individuals.”[1] »

    Wagner Reply:

    You don’t think our “antitheological ire” is at all warranted, Erikson? It’s best not to chug the whole jug of the koolaid of decadence, as in the modern world patent signs of high civilization abound. To say it again, the narrative of decadence is a noble lie as much as the narrative of progress. Our adoption of such narratives is an outgrowth of the ascetic spirit itself (and yes even teh “narrative” narrative is). We are the “true progressives” as the progressives are the “true puritans” and we are as unconscious of our heritage as we joke about them being. It’s like Hegel’s idea that the generations of humanity are a single person evolving throughout history. We sneer at religion and its accomplice asceticism and all its baggage of pious fraudulence. We see priestcraft as dripping with the devil. It was inherent in Christianity that it would be overcome, for couldn’t Christianity itself be a “trick of the devil”? (Incipit Descartes’ parable of the demon). Shitlibs and shitlords are fervently obsessed with vanquishing what they take to be the devil, as moved by tapu as Polynesian cannibals; our existential imperatives come from the same Godhead from the beginning of time. But there is nevertheless a hierarchy in the One, and certain aspects of religion we have simply evolved out of. Asceticism has done a good job, and continues to do a good job!

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Separation of theos from cosmos, i.e. the split off into the Spiritual and the Mundane is a wholly Christian (i.e. post-Semitic) invention.

    Pope vs Emperor, pure post-Semitic trash.

    collen ryan Reply:

    existence is despair inducing and suffer causing, thats what culture is for it gives meaning to life it builds a narrative around family nation race religion heros and archetypes stories about whats important and why anything from work to adventure, it creates art in service of all this – yeah sure a certain percentage of the population has always understood deep down in a sense its still all meaningless but for 99% of those people its still enough, Christmas is still mystical and magical to this athiest anti cuck-christian.
    Capitalism and socialism both purposely and accidentally destroy culture because it helps their cause in the short term, it will kill them along with the rest of us in the long term if they are not subordinated to culture to meaning.

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    A.B. Prosper Reply:

    The way to deal with issues like your sister and others like her is not persuasion or rhetoric.

    I know NrX doesn’t generally think in these terms but telling women “no you may not have an education past 18 (or 16 for that matter) when combined with regulation of males and public conduct is highly effective in increasing fertility

    C.F Afghanistan

    People need a place and assumptions they can count on and sometimes, not always to be put into that place

    Little education, no suffrage , few jobs for women and you will have a higher fertility rate if you educate your men to be men and the law backs them.

    I loathe the meme but its basically White Sharia and its a very effective technique as we are seeing.

    The IQ shredder is more than just urban life but capitalism itself, the need for constant growth, surplus production and no logical or sound way to regulate economic activity so that stability is benefited

    The assumption that “The rich are rightly rewarded” is extremely suspect on those grounds and it may be that if we are to survive we’ll have to do something about the way the economy works rather than Ayn Rand Jihad wants it or not

    Markets yes, Capitalism no.

    This of course means basically sod democracy and all that and it also means that it can’t happen in the West until the thoroughly pozzed US is too weak to intervene since we’ll gladly glass the planet for the almighty dollar

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I don’t think capitalism is the problem. We had capitalism for centuries without it leading to such decline. I mean, people used to fuck for babies.

    My parents did, just in the ’90s. All their friends did. They had capitalism still.

    It’s only some years ago since I even noticed Feminism, as a rare thing.

    Cappies were having babies only some decades ago.

    I don’t think capitalism is against genetic reproduction. I think the Cathedral is. Capitalism proper allows for a class of brood-mothers as a business. Why not?

    Who says I can’t hire a dozen blond Ukranian bitches to each produce a few babies with my DNA? I can. I probably will. lol

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    A.B. Prosper Reply:

    That’s dyscivic and should not be tolerated . One man, one wife, period.

    There will always be cheating and mistresses but any time a man is fucking more than one woman, another man is going without

    In the end automation and capitalism together make people into stuff “human resources” rather than employees or people who work for you. No relationship means no value

    This lead to instability, fungibility and contributes heavily to less families and thus to lower birth rates,

    And as for the 90’s no doubt, automation hadn’t come completely into its own yet,

    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Capitalism by itself isn’t; but urbanization = crowding in and of itself discourages reproduction. Capitalism, due to economies of scale, lead to urbanization.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    neo-Christian bs. Even “Christian” Catholic (neo-Roman-Germanic) civilization had concubines for its 2000 years. Rome for its 1000 years. And all of fucking history except recently maybe.

    Marriages were mostly economic-political, until extremely recently.

    They’re still being arranged around the world, even in the West among neo-aristocrats of wealth and power.

    That every beta or lower should have a wife is what erupted out as WW1 & WW2.

    No relationship means no value

    This I agree with. Which is why Personalism is important. It is what truly gives value for those who do not have a massified soul.

    We’re being overridden by brown people who have concubines and warrior strains of mentality & action. “Vigorous,” as the owner of Gornahoor.net calls it, indeed.

    Pseudo-Romanish (what I’ve previously but erroneously called ‘neo-Roman’) has one hope if it is

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  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    If a higher IQ, plus urban opportunity = higher income,
    Then surely, higher income = increased ability to produce and rear offspring?

    If the social conditions and increased pressures of urban environments = decreased fertility; then surely, higher IQ, which should suggest an increased ability to cope with and transcend such social conditions and pressures, is not actually in operation?

    You can’t really have it both ways!
    If the unfortunate urbanite’s reproductive energies are compromised by the ardours of committing to the “finance and marketing rat-race”, then obviously they are not naturally attuned to functioning in that environment, they’re obviously not clever enough to manage, lol! Complaints about increased costs, should be irrelevant in scenarios of high-IQ driven financial success!

    Obviously, the article is literally a Neoreactionary call, for a ‘nanny-state’! lol

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    TheDividualist Reply:

    Yes, todays smart engineer could support 50 kids on the the quality of living and education Tom Sawyer had. He has absolutely a higher ability to do that.

    But that is 1) illegal 2) unpopular 3) the cheap stuff not even available locally, likely he had to move those kids out to redneckland and be a remote dad just sending money 4) he would need to marry 5 low educated and extremely conservative women for that, for which he has no desire.

    The lesson is that this kind of syllogism does not work with moving goalposts, the concept of “to rear offspring” changes. A lot. It moved from “barefoot, sometimes hungry, can sign his name” to “of course he goes to college, hopefulyl ivy league, and phd”

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Art the cost of getting away from niggers (enabling whites the dignity and security both physical and economic they require to form families) in urban environments is much much higher than the increased waged the hipster faggots receive in compensation

    Your little theory presumes High IQ people still understand that the point is to survive and procreate, that is much too common a sense for these eloi the state has invested a lot in brainwashing them to favor more pointless reasons to live , and that the hole in their soul they salve with Soma is coincidental to their pointless existence.

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    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    When I imagine your appearance I think of Steve the Drunk from Deadwood.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    LOL you know that statue of Holger Danske?-Spitting image.

    collen ryan Reply:

    @

    lets say I would love him more if he were also of my clan, I fucked up because back in the 70s i didnt think of sex as being about children let alone what i thought about children so i cast my seed into the belly of a jewess thinking ‘rock n roll’ next thing I know shes telling me shes going to appropriate my oldest son who i wasnt planning on having for another decade or two.I was in no condition to be a father and wasnt. so he suffered the consequences of his parents selfishness, she BTW was a bit older and had decided she wasnt going to be a star and i would make a great donor or something.although i am mostly attracted to my own norther euros NYC is full of southern euros and jews if thats not redundant.
    no art my anti semitism is purely intelectual and quite recent, personally I like jews and quite a few niggers and spics and even a couple wogs and slants. I was mad at her for what I considered stealing but also at myself and the cult that allowed her to.Jewesses like goyboys like me Im kind of the viking type big long hair etc.and theyre sluts so but jews are smart and funny and most dont quite get how much damage they do or what their attitude might seem like to those of us who have been here a couple hundred years and in europe for millennia they like most nigger races just think our countries are free for the taking

    Wagner Reply:

    Yup, you and Land are in a similar plight that neither of you are allowed to discuss with frankness; You are constrained to against, Land to for. Both of you will probably be dead by the time your problem is righted.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [TheDividualist] “Yes, todays smart engineer could support 50 kids on the the quality of living and education Tom Sawyer had. He has absolutely a higher ability to do that.

    But that is 1) illegal 2) unpopular 3) the cheap stuff not even available locally, likely he had to move those kids out to redneckland and be a remote dad just sending money 4) he would need to marry 5 low educated and extremely conservative women for that, for which he has no desire.

    The lesson is that this kind of syllogism does not work with moving goalposts, the concept of “to rear offspring” changes. A lot. It moved from “barefoot, sometimes hungry, can sign his name” to “of course he goes to college, hopefulyl ivy league, and phd””

    {AK}: The given scenario was that of modern city-states, which are assumed to be successful concentrations of productive energies. The logical implications I outlined in the earlier comment, derive from views Neoreaction advocates, they aren’t my theses. Neoreaction advocates high-IQ elitism and techno-commercial citystates, such as Singapore.
    Supporting “50 kids on the the quality of living and education Tom Sawyer had”, on insufficient income, does not seem to be an intelligent strategy, given the complex demands of the urban environment inadequately educated children would have to face. What you call “today’s smart engineer”, has to compete in the “finance and marketing rat-race”. The criteria for such an engineer’s belonging to a techno-commercial citystate, high-IQ elite, would be contingent on their successfully competing in that scenario, perhaps as an innovator, but certainly as among the best of their kind, that’s what ‘elite’ means. Such an individual, usually earns millions, or more.

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    [Erebus] “>”Another valid thing to ask would be, while still at the societal level: Do we need a lot of children? Why?—” etc

    {AK}: All of that, was confused hysteria.

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    [collen ryan] “Art the cost of getting away —

    Your little theory presumes —” etc

    {AK}: As I pointed out above, Neoreaction’s explicit commitments are to high-IQ, techno-commercial, elites; not high-IQ persons, alone. I don’t subscribe to those commitments, so it’s not actually my theory.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Art dont confuse the entryist Nick land with reaction

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    I’m aware there is a lot more to Neoreaction, than Nick Land. But he is its most developed intellectual expression. The so called founder, ‘Moldbug’, I may have read a bit of, some years ago. I found him to be boring, confused, and banal, lacking in intellectual power.

    collen ryan Reply:

    The only one in reaction that thinks land is its founder is maybe nick, nick is an obscure corner of reaction and pretty suspect at that he get more attention than he earned as a reactionary because he was almost famous as an academic when reaction was desperate to noticed. No one founded it but if anyone had to be named it would be moldbug. what really happened was a lot of faR FLUNG THINGS BEGAN TO NOTICE EACH OTHER AND NOTICE And note a commonality. They used moldbugs redpill and matrix as a schelling point. It hasnt actually worked out too well the ideology gets no where forward and is decaying and as many have exited as have “joined”futurism capitalism or even tech are as much in conflict with the rest of it as say the religious part, yeah bet you didnt know religion is the third leg of reactions trichotomy. thats because their were some conservative christians who got modernism sucked imagine that and a few noticed the mens rights stuff and were at odds with feminism so they called it trad/religion. Now explain how a “rationalist realist movement is down with religion? its just like how is a techno futurist capitalist leg also supposed to be conservative -conserving what Lands not even conserving the human race. Its because the rght is knee jerk capitalist because socialism is alleged to be its antithesis, and because so many who spend their lives on the internet are in tech fields and like sci fi. No rhyme or reason except moldbug was also like that and managed to shoehorn it all in. But if you really watch what caused all this it was HBD it was the realization they had been lied to their entire lives about the most important thing in our culture well new culture not my culture Im too old not to know how its a constructed culture.These kids were outraged but still too left too actually get too into that issue so they use the anti democracy thing as a proxy, they are only fooling themselves the left knows whats happened. This thing only makes sense if its core is reason reality truth and that truth is HBD, culture not capitalism race not capitalism we cant get rid of capitalism or socialism entirely they are written into our DNA but we are going to have to confront how they are two sides of the same anti human coin and deal with that forthrightly, and we are going to have to do that in our own nations Nick lands dream state is USG its just not as advanced as he would like to see it.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    [collen ryan] “The only one in reaction that thinks land is its founder is maybe nick,—This thing only makes sense if its core is reason reality truth and that truth is HBD, culture not capitalism race not capitalism we cant get rid of capitalism or socialism entirely they are written into our DNA but we are going to have to confront how they are two sides of the same anti human coin”

    {AK}: NL seems to be both tracking and inhabiting a particular kind of tendency.
    You do realise that you’re claiming your own DNA, and by extension, your genetics, to be anti-human! lol

    I guess being in a war with your own bodily and genetic constitution explains your fevered prose style. lol

    There is a particular kind of irony at work.

    Your exclusive commitment to the ‘reality’ of racialised culture, or of an ethnocentric rationality, is the ‘truth’ you favor, over political and economic arrangements, which you say don’t ‘make sense’. Yet you claim those arrangements to be genetically innate.

    HBD arguments are usually trying to exploit demographics and population genetics; those arguments, such as they are, can only suffer total deflation in the face of your self-admitted, innate anti-humanism! With such self-condemnation, it might prove somewhat difficult to criticise other ethnicities. lol
    I guess, though, if you’re at war with yourself, you’re going to be at war with everyone else, too! Interesting ‘culture’, you’re trying to preserve there!

    Malcer Reply:

    You’re operating under the assumption that those of us who accept Land’s observations belong to the Daily Stormer crowd. I certainly don’t. Any lowering happening to European populations might be regretful, but is unavoidable.

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    Anon Reply:

    >You’re operating under the assumption that those of us who accept Land’s observations belong to the Daily Stormer crowd. I certainly don’t.

    You lack self-awareness. Everyone on the right that isn’t tech-comm NRx don’t see you as ethnat, they see y’all as “bugmen” (as the MPC boys and frogtwitter call it). Land isn’t a visionary, he is the Queen Bee of the Bugmen.

    Malcer Reply:

    >implying I claimed to be ethnat

    >implying European (if not white) ethnats are relevant beyond the likes of Trump and Brexit’s coalitions

    Anon Reply:

    “Look at my in-group signalling with my meme arrows outside an image board”

    This is the dumbest set of non-green text implications using reddit spacing I’ve ever seen. This first one is clearly not an implicature from what I said at all, and the second implicature can’t even been drawn out of the claims being made, since the positions are logical contraries: both have the possibility of being false, especially urban hive “I F&CKING LOVE CITIES” sino-bugmanism.

    Back to reddit with you, small-souled bugman.

    collen ryan Reply:

    “Your exclusive commitment to the ‘reality’ of racialised culture, or of an ethnocentric rationality, is the ‘truth’ you favor, over political and economic arrangements, which you say don’t ‘make sense’. Yet you claim those arrangements to be genetically innate.”

    art racialized culture- seriously? I just coined a new word and Im dedicating it to you ‘biocultural’ there is no unracialized culture when a culture becomes untethered from the race that developed it it becomes toxic and begins to again act on the biologic. This is why you dont get the observation I made about capitalism and socialism both being written into our DNA and being anti human. They are anti human when they become untethered from the race that is deploying them.your “political and economic arrangements” are just another example. Dont you see those are my races political and economics arrangements. my bioculture, all men are created equal didnt mean you stupid fucking wogs. Race is all art. You cant get NRX because you cant imagine yourself except as a camp follower of our race so to you ts a threat, I really dont mean this all as an insult Im trying to make you understand grok something youre not groking. Its Gnon you cant work around fucking gnon he always comes back-race is all all all. This is why fucking land is a moron, hes what the jesuits used to call a sophomore,clever, smart not intelligent.He actually helped birth the fucking Gnon concept but he keeps thinking bitcoin is going to nullify it, incredible hubris. Moldbug never really got quite as far being early and being a fucking kike he didnt do race much, but enough and like fake news was meant to sink the right his red pill matrix memeplex ironically rebounded on his jew scheme because the time was just right.Kind of like national socialism rebounded on his grandparents huh?
    all thats really important about capitalism is socialism is a lie and capitalism kinda sorta resembles evolution but so does democracy and they dont care about that.Capitalism is a tool all apes have it to some extent but euro apes really weaponized it- oh thats important too because eventually they will stop be stopped from using it against whites as a weapon and it will be turned exclusively against woggish types already happening MAGA.But there you see how your capitalism gets physical.- Nah Im sure you see none of it youre a nigger a slave mind you want socialism and you want leftism because it flatters you that youre human.Youre not human art.Only euros are human. But heres the thing youre a wog well thats my word. you wogs have your own name and you have your own destiny good luck with it maybe we can exchange recipes or something, you just cant be one of us its fucking physically impossible.I have a half jewish son love him to death hes not of my people though hes not a euro hes a wog. I cant change it, I can pretend to myself but reality is hes a mutt i fucked up.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Race is best understood as ancestry

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    ARGUING WITH AN [ANTISEMITE] AND [RAYCYST]

    [CR]: “art racialized culture- seriously? I just coined a new word and Im dedicating it to you ‘biocultural’ there is no unracialized culture when a culture becomes untethered from the race that developed it it becomes toxic and begins to again act on the biologic.”

    {AK}: Given that argument, both modern logic and the number system, created by my ancestors, was untethered by Occidental appropriation, thus resulting in ‘toxic’ Occidental cultures.
    Incidentally, ‘biocultural’ or ‘bio-cultural’, is a common word.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [CR]:”This is why you dont get the observation I made about capitalism and socialism both being written into our DNA and being anti human. They are anti human when they become untethered from the race that is deploying them.your “political and economic arrangements” are just another example.”

    {AK}: Capitalism and Socialism are European developments, but the ideas out of which they are constructed are not uniquely European, nor of European origination. However, insofar as they are informed by, and adapted to, European cultural styles, the argument could be made that the sheer export of these European-styled developments, with no further adaptations, could prove problematic due to the conflict of ethno-cultural styles.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [CR]: “Dont you see those are my races political and economics arrangements. my bioculture, all men are created equal didnt mean you stupid fucking wogs. Race is all art. You cant get NRX because you cant imagine yourself except as a camp follower of our race so to you ts a threat, I really dont mean this all as an insult Im trying to make you understand grok something youre not groking.”

    {AK}: To be honest, I understand it better than you, NL, and Moldbug, its founder. It’s the desperate hunt for an exceptionalist essentialism, or essentialised exceptionalism. It’s European panic, Euro-peon panic.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [CR]: “Its Gnon you cant work around fucking gnon he always comes back-race is all all all. This is why fucking land is a moron, hes what the jesuits used to call a sophomore,clever, smart not intelligent.He actually helped birth the fucking Gnon concept but he keeps thinking bitcoin is going to nullify it, incredible hubris. ”

    {AK}: The so-called ‘Gnon’ concept, is a perspective, from which can be seen only European panic, Euro-peon panic.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [CR]: “Nah Im sure you see none of it youre a nigger a slave mind you want socialism and you want leftism because it flatters you that youre human.Youre not human art.Only euros are human.”

    {AK}: That’s fine by me, it’s an incompetent, shitty concept, anyway, lol. I’ve been saying that, for years. Far better, to be more than human.

    “It is easier to secede from such exploitative forms of unanimity, not lend one’s ‘name’ to such systematised hipocrisy – we are not all the same. While the Occident plays out its trilemma, its contest of impoverished illusions, Religion contra Science contra Humanism, it is well to remember that the word ‘human’ is of Latin derivation, it has a delimited history, and is not indispensable to non-European cultures.” from “Responses 2” (2012)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [CR]: “But heres the thing youre a wog well thats my word. you wogs have your own name and you have your own destiny good luck with it maybe we can exchange recipes or something, you just cant be one of us its fucking physically impossible.I have a half jewish son love him to death hes not of my people though hes not a euro hes a wog. I cant change it, I can pretend to myself but reality is hes a mutt i fucked up.”

    {AK}: Sounds like your antisemitism might have derived from a conflict with the child’s mother, or perhaps caused the conflict.

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    I don’t get it, so you love him or you don’t love him?

    The introduction of a Half-Jewish son is what they would call in screenwriting an Inciting Incident.

    Would love to hear more about this. Why did you fuck ‘up’? Why did you fuck in a way that caused you to fuck up?

    Dramaturgia sexualis.

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  • TheDividualist Says:

    Just a thought… if heredity > parenting, we may as well pay 140 IQ people for their sperm/eggs and raise the kids en masse in state orphanages. Or it could be a private foundation.

    It goes against my instincts as I am all for traditional families… but if all we want is more people with good genes, we can figure a streamlined production process for that, and this is that.

    Technological modernity professionalizes everything, taking them out from the home e.g. wives sew clothes at home -> clothes are made in factories. Thinking we could also make kids this way sounds disgusting, as obviously we love our kids far more than we love our clothes, but it would be in a way logical. Brave New World etc.

    We could even give those kids something like a family upbringing. The EU is doing this, except for the genetics part, there is plan to close orphanages and just put 2 teachers with 10 orphan kids into a house each, effectivly simulating large families. Not a replacement for true families but far better than the orphanage. One could imagine a high IQ breeding programme this way…

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    collen ryan Reply:

    First I want to see the proof we really even need so many people, let alone other people.to make up our deficit. How is it we are simultaneously worried about population collapse and robots eating jobs?One of the things I like about 1900 is there were less people overall not just less niggers.If tech is all that we ought to be able to maintain hegemony with less whites. Certainly we can do without niggers entirely. Its worth mentioning the likeliest cause of less children after feminism (HBD again nick) is overcrowding and its effects, overcrowding with niggers just exacerbates the effects.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Imagine families of seven
    It’s easy if you try
    Gazelle-like instincts to breed
    No one asking why
    Imagine all the white people if we took care of the gays… wu uh uh uh

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Could it be this socialist /capitalist dichotomy is like the democrat republican ruse? I cant help noticing I never see leftism where their is no capitalism. Maybe CapSoc vs Humanism is the better way of seeing this?

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Its worth noting the aristocrats the NRX admires were anti capitalist landed aristocracy displaced by jews and a few turncoats. As Land mentions the Church and they saw that Capitalism was anti conservative. Could it be – of course it could, That Land the commie professor and Moldbug the capitalist Jew understand they are on the same team, and wish to head off any conservative reaction with this nonsense that not only conserves nothing but locks us into SocCap slaves. Its interesting how they both claim resistance is futile just enjoy the veiw while they strap you into the matrix

    Michael Rothblatt Reply:

    Paradoxically, the so-called “traditional families” are anything but. They are bourgeois invention, the product of classical liberalism. The traditionalist, Tory soultion would actually be state orphanages…

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    collen ryan Reply:

    I make this point at Jims when he goes on about his plans to put a bitch in every betas bed. Beta mating at these high rates is how we got so many betas we cant defend ourselves.Sure it was probably the only way to get at the human capital locked in in those beta faggots but Gnon will have his laugh. We might now supply a alpha genome to betas wives, but will have a different problem in a generation or three.I suppose we could then have really draconian laws without fear of beta selecting, and of course designer babies female version could be stepford wives, and such an alpha high IQ race would naturally conquer and kill the competition till that ran out.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    I make this point at Jims when he goes on about his plans to put a bitch in every betas bed. Beta mating at these high rates is how we got so many betas we cant defend ourselves

    Agreed.

    ▬» This opinion is the consequence of a deficiency in our judgement. In fact, we are all in the same boat. Even though men are different, for each one of us the total algebraic sum of our qualities and of our defects is nearly the same. We must not be under false illusions: the amount of this sum is not large. It is an infinitesimal and as such tends towards zero, which is death. »

    Said a Christian writer. He’s wrong. We’ve never been on the same boat. We’ve been on the same sea, and the same earth, but never all on the same boat.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    When I examined PRC up really close like with an xray machine inspecting welds, I found they lie about the specifications they claim for their products, and a nuclear power plant had to be ripped out by the roots.
    I find corruption is much more rife there and has to be tempered with extrajudicial kidnappings torture and execution. However Im fairly competent when their system is as old as ours an equilibrium of corruption will emerge that makes these executions easily solvable with an “arrangement” Authority, checks and balances etc are attempts to solve the underlying problem human self interest getting the upper hand over human social interest.power and wealth are so interchangeable its risible to suggest if we swap one for the other rulers will suddenly become better rulers.
    And while we are critiquing china the same objection that one has about living under AI robotic rule, its unpleasant. Even if I were to accept your claim to have solved self interest I dont want to live in an alien culture, I am a human being whats more a conservative human being I actually value the things you are eliminating.
    IQ shredding is but an example of how these ideas dehumanize us and well, supports nihilism. Nothing quenches nihilism like children.But who are we kidding these smart wogs were not going to have smart children anyway, they were going to revert to the wog mean. If anything draining the outside of its smart niggers while preventing them from reproducing is a great idea for nations of high IQ peoples. It destroys any chance of the competition races while as long as you limit your people from miscegenation and get them to reproduce at least replacement rate you are gaining ground at a good rate.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Unless of course Nick your goal is a multicultural elite rather than an elite race, but that would be so much more complex a goal a smart guy like you would first explain how you were going to accomplish that, you could probably get a job with the clinton soros machine if you had such a solution

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  • Lucian of Samosata Says:

    Thus completes the circle with “Kant, Capital…”

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  • collen ryan Says:

    “Modernity has a fertility problem. When elevated to the zenith of savage irony, the formulation runs: At the demographic level, modernity selects systematically against modern populations. The people it prefers, it consumes. Without gross exaggeration, this endogenous tendency can be seen as an existential risk to the modern world. It threatens to bring the entire global order crashing down around it.

    Modernity thats the period marked by the rise of capitalism and socialism, Isnt that the same period of the rising tide of color. so which side of “Modernism” the capitalistic or the socialistic thats causing this fertility problem? And where are the resources coming from thats caused the correlative baby boom in niggers?

    You say its somehow tied in with urbanization? was that the socialists or the capitalists idea? so people had to leave the natural way of supporting themselves on the earth and become part of the machine and since this was not such a perfect swap they demand capitalists fill the gaps. Ok capitalism increases productivity and will require less children to sustain, urbanization helps this but legacy people need to be pensioned out.except stupid fucking capitalists decide to instead breed niggers, at least the fucking commies can cowboy up and genocide when its called for.

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  • spandrell Says:

    An actual link would have been nice.

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    Xoth Reply:

    So close.

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  • collen ryan Says:

    Great article Nick you realize of course you just destroyed neo reaction?No? try reading your article replacing the word Modernity with Capitalism. Capitalism gives rise to socialism feminism urbanism a breakdown of all social bonds that make civilization possible worthwhile religiosity, family culture etc.It attempts to keep the ponzi scheme going by expanding and ultimately according to you it will do away with humans -problem solved? but whose problem that wasn’t the problem I was trying to solve. I was trying to solve the problems capitalism gave rise to and youve just convinced me its futile by making me realize its not leftism thats the problem leftism is a symptom of capitalism.its anothers attempt to solve the mess capitalism makes.
    Could it be that living like human which means recognizing being flawed and incapable of perfection is the answer? Not throwing out capitalism but not letting it rule us, not throwing out any of it but clumsily using culture to regulate as things become unbalanced. Could it be that little things like keeping women under mens authority and keeping other people out of your civilizational projects, countenancing a little superstition for the sake of a less violent populace etc works as well as we can hope given we were actyually monkeys not long agao and some races are pretty much still monkeys.Youre not a conservative nick youre just another meddling monomaniac like staln that just replaces communism with capitalism on your pamphlets.You and stalin both want modernize FUCK FUCKING YOU WE PEOPLE JUST WANT TO LIVE HAVE FAMILIES GROW THINGS MAKE THINGS

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    Nick is the Doom Prophet. Are you actually expecting him to promote anything that ends with human survival? His entire point is that we will end, and we’ve done this to ourselves, and isn’t that kinda funny?

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Well its kind of semantics to say we did it to ourselves, since some people are getting it done to them and others are doing it.WHO WHOM? And part of what he they is doing is saying stop struggling, when in fact we ought to be murdering those that are doing this to us. He/they flatters a lot of you to think you are going to be a winner, but Danny as you point out hes also at times clear no human will win if you follow his plan so danny why are you following his plan? -Oh because he told you it was inevitable but if you cooperated it would go easier for you. We have a name for people like that -collaborator.

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    Daniel Chieh Reply:

    I don’t actually advocate his position. I’m not a huge fan of extinction, not even for wallabies or koalas, let alone humanity. But I do try to understand it and I think that understanding is the first step to tackling it. The only winners from his process, if taken to its extreme, are those who seek to essentially destroy all that is human as we understand it.

    That’s, of course, assuming that we don’t run out of resources.

    collen ryan Reply:

    I know where you are coming from Dan I have read your comments elsewhere. Im not sure where land is coming from anymore I used to think I got it but I think hes an entryist now. I think perhaps we were flattered back when he showed up and we didnt vet him properly. sure there are tie ins lots of things can tie in thats how entry is done. Hes not conserving anything, not even humans WTF. The capitalist talk is how NRO keeps the cucks in line too. .

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    John Hannon Reply:

    “Nick is the Doom Prophet.”

    Since 1992 –

    “It might still be a few decades before artificial intelligences surpass the horizon of biological ones, but it is utterly superstitious to imagine that the human dominion of terrestrial culture is still marked out in centuries, let alone in some metaphysical perpetuity. The high road to thinking no longer passes through a deepening of human cognition, but rather through a becoming inhuman of human cognition, a migration of cognition out into the emerging planetary technosntience reservoir, where human culture will be dissolved. … Intelligence will be transplanted into the purring data zones of new software worlds in order to be abstracted from an increasingly obsolescent anthropoid particularity.
    Life is being phased-out into something new, and if we think this can be stopped we are even more stupid than we seem.

    – Circuitries

    Still, not to worry, as Adi Da pointed out –

    “No matter what arises, or does not arise, you are only Consciousness Itself. Not the ego, not the separate ‘self,’ but Consciousness Itself.
    It is commonly presumed that the apparently individual conscious ‘self’ is doing the thinking. You presume you are the source and cause and doer of thinking. You presume that the contents and problems of your thinking are ‘yours’ – but this is only a presumption, or a mere idea.
    That presumption is not inspected – and, indeed, that presumption is not true.
    You are not the thinking mind. Rather, you are simply the formless mere witness of whatever is arising.
    No matter what happens to the body-mind-‘self’ while you live, you are always only awareness, and awareness itself never changes. The daily-ordinary ego-mind is constantly identifying pure awareness with the changes that are peripheral to it, but if you inspect awareness itself, if you enter into it most profoundly, you will clearly see that awareness itself does not change, but is simply and only the in-depth mere witness of changes.”

    Does anyone find this kind of impersonal dissociation in any way reassuring?

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    Anon Reply:

    Tech comm NRx is a bugman ideology: small-souled-bugmen.info

    John Hannon Reply:

    First time I ever met Nick in the early 90s I asked him how he would sum-up his philosophy: “Antihuman,” he replied without hesitation.
    Can’t say he hasn’t been consistent.

    Wagner Reply:

    How many times can you little marmots parrot the word bugman before you finally put a gun into your mouths? MPC/frogtwitter, basically the right-wing version of the left, if we define the left by its quality of stinking like flies.

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  • Rick Sean Says:

    The problem is not so much that cities make its inhabitants infertile, but that muslims seems to be immune from that effect.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Own.

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  • Mike in Boston Says:

    In the penultimate sentence, “Out great cities pose an ultimate political problem” seems like a typo.

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  • August Hurtel Says:

    There are hints at answers. Integrating agriculture and city. Not as crazy as one might think.
    The permacultural/ regenerative agricultural models.
    Then Christopher Alexander’s work- right now I am thinking of his ‘city fingers’ pattern where the city looks a bit like a hand; the core in the palm, with most of the residential areas looking like fingers coming off the palm. Agricultural land between the fingers.
    Montessori asserted that the early teen/high school years should be on farm. Seems likely. Also fits as a solution because then they are experiencing puberty while doing this farming activity. Seems to me the more popular guys would be the ones demonstrating competency. Thug tats would drop in popularity because they generally don’t contribute to bringing in the harvest.

    Family formation kind of has to happen next. At the same time, many forms of higher education/ specialization does too. This should not be insurmountable, to as a society that won’t be retarded like my state and insist on sending stupid people to college while being massively in debt.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Rurban.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    When left trying to act as right that is when something ‘agonizingly embarrassing upon close inspection’ happen.

    +1

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  • collen ryan Says:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

    This is interesting the atlantic blaming capitalists among others for immigration and making the case by describing in detail left ratchet and how the cathedral operates

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  • Zardoz Says:

    Seems that cities are more than an IQ Shredder. They’re a Race Shredder. A Religion Shredder. What makes it out of a city alive? Only Capital.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    smile
    and degenerate art and thought

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Ok capitalism increases productivity and will require less children to sustain, urbanization helps this but legacy people need to be pensioned out.except stupid fucking capitalists decide to instead breed niggers, at least the fucking commies can cowboy up and genocide when its called for.

    LOL

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  • collen ryan Says:

    “If anything draining the outside of its smart niggers while preventing them from reproducing is a great idea for nations of high IQ peoples. It destroys any chance of the competition races (from stabilizing the IQ of their cog elites ) while as long as you limit your people from miscegenation and get them to reproduce at least replacement rate, you are gaining ground at a good rate.”

    come on guys thas some dark shit Dark, maybe the cathedral has a p;lan

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    Wagner Reply:

    Nah Mike you dunno dark. Dark involves some degree of self-parody, and that I’ve never seen from you. For example, it could be a sublimation of wypipo-pity to be a reactionary. We pity our brethren for having fallen into error and this is all an elaborate attempt to “help the weak”.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    LOL my entire act is parody

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  • Friedrich von Uxküll Says:

    @Wagner: You should read Peter Sloterdijk’s “You Must Change Your Life”, in it he expands on Foucault’s lectures on “The Care of the Self”. He creates a general theory of ‘anthropotechnics’ and analyzes religions from Christianity to Scientology using his methodology. It’s a fascinating read, although 500+ pages.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Hmm, didn’t know it expanded on those lectures. One of the least pozzed Nietzscheans writing today, Laurence Lampert, holds that Sloterdijk book in high esteem. Erebus et al might want to take a peek at these printscreens:

    http://imgur.com/a/gy1ez

    http://imgur.com/a/lgp2g

    There’s no denying that Sloterdijk has a Zizek-esque fluidity in his faculty for inversion but like Zizek there’s something about him that strikes me as “company man”… Anyway, speaking of: Land, when are you going to publicly debate Zizek and get it over with already FFS?

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Christ is definitely a model for a real experience for one with the imagination. It’s not unreal like thinking of Utopia, which is typically a social arrangement.

    Christ’s social message is secondary. His experiental message is primary.

    This is what makes him different from Marx, primarily.

    Those who take his social message as primary are misunderstanding the whole thing. It’s the same in Buddhism. Buddhism is just more clear on this. It says the pro-social morality is just a raft to get over a river. I.e. that it’s just a tool to simplify one’s life, to no accrue more karma (reactions to one’s actions). I.e. so that you don’t have to deal with drama and all the social complications of typical human life, you simply forgive everybody and focus on the task at hand which is ascetic practices.

    Ascetic practises are properly not hocus pocus, but very mundane. In Buddhism they say they start with the samsaric vessel, which means your chaotic life. You try to see the arrangements in your life. Why are you bothered? Why is your mind an ongoing monkey? You may not get a “why” answer, but you’ll witness a how. Christianity proper does this. It’s a monastic creed. It gave hope to slaves in the Roman empire that they could be rid of their suffering through believing in those who’ve mastered such practices. You can get a purpose in life by hanging out with other people who are into that. You can try out the shit and it will work but for the most unfortunate.

    Marx should have had all his frustration spanked out of him.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    F.W. Nietzsche said

    ▬» I grant all honor to the ascetic ideal, insofar as it is honest! So long as it believes in itself and does not play games with us! »

    Deep , I keep channelling Mastah Níít.

    https://youtu.be/c3UTzZv8z0Y

    Wagner Reply:

    I decided to overcome my misanthropy the other day and sat next to this guy underneath a bridge. A white rapper. Pure garbage came out of his mouth, and it was better than the garbage in that vid.

    Wagner Reply:

    It doesn’t matter if whites breed with blacks, the black-soul is creeping into the white. This is the telos of America. Stoop down to let the monkey on your back, it covers your eyes and oots what direction to go.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Yeah, it was a reference to the Chistian slave ethos; but come on, that lyric isn’t at all incoherent.

    Lotus Reply:

    You want them to perform in front of a crowd of hooting apes? Just read their books and make up your own mind like a good Protestant.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Do I want to to what why?

    Lotus Reply:

    Replying to Wagner raising the possibility of a Žižek-Land debate.

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  • Malcer Says:

    Capital always hunts for the most productivity with least humans. There is no reliable counter to this short of armageddon.

    Religion is no use. Most Muslim countries outside of Nigger Africa (which is the only continent left on the planet that Capital can still overhaul), even in the Arabian Peninsula, only have about two children, maybe three if they’re lucky. So does India. The Far East is lower than that.

    Neither does “Patriarchy.” Muslim women have, at most, a status on par with Western and Far Eastern women.

    It looks like the world is evolving towards learning to do more with less. I wouldn’t be surprised if we had fortresses with means to exterminate feral negroes or other Deplorables for the super wealthy to comfortable Middle Class to rule the world from while everybody else just dealt with it.

    I expect neither the hardcore Left or Reaction would be pleased with it.

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    collen ryan Reply:

    Bullshit capital can do its thing we can do ours, culture before capital simple heres the hierarchy biology culture things in culture like capital are to serve culture which serves biology. when theres a conflict the hierarchy prevails. If capital wants to survive it will find a way to not destroy humans and their culture by humans of course we means whites i dont give a fuck what capital does to niggers not my problem but capital should not expect me to make it my problem. Capital has found ways to work with communism it ought to be able to adapt to humans. We tolerate support it because it serves us we dont serve it, that shit has to stop.perhaps like china we need to shoot some capitalists occasionally to straighten them out on the hierarchy. Doing more with less is not a problem for humans its the capitalists that are shooting themselves in the foot. put the women back in the kitchen and eliminate the niggers races Voila -less ! Capitalism is always short sighted so it allowed its evil twin (commies) to start wrecking.get capitalism under control and let culture do its job. Captalism can not be “free” its stupid like that AI paper clipper it doesnt care about anything but profits.I shouldnt have to remind conservatives- but youre not your sperg nerds doing your own paperclipping;its not the profits we like about capitalism thats the carrot we offer them to do our work, the stick is the market, the point of the operation to us is the innovation and productivity gains- but not for themselves because they make human life more – lets just say more good.Capitalism will try to distort human good in all sorts of ways because it doesnt give a shit about it thats fine but humans must or lands theory proves right, its not inevitable its simply capital and its comrades want you to believe you must submit of course they do. If capital can tell you what your choices are it makes their job easier, if they can co opt the state to tell you just as good.

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    1] Man up
    2] Bow to God and pray even if silently
    3] Kill our enemies which are your enemies
    4] As soon as the gunsmoke and shock clear you’re gonna wanna fuck that’s biology

    So Man, Pray, Fuck/Reproduce, Eat, Sleep.
    Wake fuck eat pray leave camp/house – kill again – eat/fuck sleep.

    Be sure and get some rest. Catches up with you. You may be too wired after a bit to sleep.
    Just fuck again.
    Then pray for sleep and God will grant it.

    Helps with the fucking/killing part if God Blesses it. Real marriage…

    Let God be your gunny sack “I put it all in a gunny sack. In the trunk of a brand new Cadillac.”
    Here’s your real competition. Their eyes are Blue but not their Blood – except they pray/kill/fuck.
    They/We quiet about prayer but it happens.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD1Lfnmi0mQ

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    John Hannon Reply:

    You intrigue me, Vxxc2014.

    Though very familiar with blood and gore from my years sent working in hospital operating theatres, the nearest I’ve ever cone to a war zone is a Napalm Death moshpit.

    So how many people have you killed?

    My dad actually killed Jews. Blasted them to death at close range with a machine gun.
    He was serving in the Parachute Regiment in Palestine when his patrol was ambushed by the Stern Gang. Had to fight his way out in a gun battle that left some of his best mates dead. But this was never something he ever glorified or bragged about. In fact he never talked about it at all unless me and my brother interrogated him about it. He as just a quiet, teetotal, hard-working, dutiful father. Best dad I ever had.

    I really enjoy your comments here Vxxc2014, if only for your distinctive clipped and terse prose style.
    But my dad would have just seen you as a ridiculous braggart.

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    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    John Hannon,

    So you are into metal?

    I think Meshuggah invented Nietzschean/extropian Accelerationism several years before Land.

    Haha, that’s funny about the Napalm Death show.

    I feel like that closest I’ve ever been to a war zone is when I saw my uncle’s band Toxik play a reunion show at Saint Vitus.

    I saw people rag-doll in the air. Physics was defied during that show.

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    Rohme Reply:

    I’m not sure if you’re into jazz but check out this old band I used to be a part of. It’s got some post-rock influences.

    https://troikasounds.bandcamp.com/album/two-worlds

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    Great writing and playing, Rohme! I listened to it all the way through, without losing interest. I like the quiet intensity, it brought to mind the following tracks:

    Caldera (1978 USA) – 02. Mosaico (with Jorge Strunz, gtr)

    Return to Forever – The Romantic Warrior 1976 (with Al Di Meola, gtr)

    For various reasons, I always associate the above two tracks together. I slightly prefer the Caldera track, though, because of its ‘quiet intensity’. I like the oboe, too.

    There is more ‘quiet intensity’ on this track by Aziza Mustafa Zadeh, brilliance and beauty.

    Aziza Mustafa Zadeh – Dance of Fire (with Al Di Meola, gtr)

    Live Version

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Good shit, Knaphni.

    Rohme Giuliano Reply:

    Thank you Artxell and you have superb tastes my friend!

    I’m unfamiliar with the Caldera and Aziza Mustafa Zadeh tracks, so really wonderful recommendations, particularly the Zadeh, it has great movement.

    I love fluid, rhythmic lines. Have you heard ‘Remember Shakti’ – John McLaughlin and Zakir Hussain’s project?

    RTF band is one of my earliest music memories. I remember thinking to my adolescent self, wow, I didn’t know music could like this, this is so different from Britney Spears, one of my other earliest musical memories. Don’t get me wrong, I loved Britney Spears when I was little. Lol.

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    post-Landian post-nihilist Reply:

    Britney Spears? Then you must be about my age. Thought you were at least a decade older

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Hegemonizing Swarm said on June 20th, 2017:

    If radically decoded Internet identity is the extrapolation of the norms of urban existence,
    Wouldn’t that imply fighting the cities is yesterday’s battle? Sure, the cities are still hotbeds of these norms.
    But seeing how communication, meeting up, association, especially by the younger generations, is mediated by applications on the Internet, the norms of the global city are spreading without heed to geography.

    The new “Maoist” slogan would be “Burn the Internet to the ground”. Good luck with that.

    Brilliant.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    ▬» The Roman Empire reached its greatest geographical extent under Trajan (emperor 98–117), who ruled a prosperous state that stretched from Mesopotamia to the Atlantic. The Empire had large numbers of trained, supplied, and disciplined soldiers, as well as a comprehensive civil administration based in thriving cities with effective control over public finances. Among its literate elite it had ideological legitimacy as the only worthwhile form of civilization and a cultural unity based on comprehensive familiarity with Greek and Roman literature and rhetoric. The Empire’s power allowed it to maintain extreme differences of wealth and status (including slavery on a large scale),[13] and its wide-ranging trade networks permitted even modest households to use goods made by professionals far away.[14]

    Its financial system allowed it to raise significant taxes which, despite endemic corruption, supported a large regular army with logistics and training. The cursus honorum, a standardized series of military and civil posts organised for ambitious aristocratic men, ensured that powerful noblemen became familiar with military and civil command and administration. At a lower level within the army, connecting the aristocrats at the top with the private soldiers, a large number of centurions were well-rewarded, literate, and responsible for training, discipline, administration, and leadership in battle.[15] City governments with their own properties and revenues functioned effectively at local level; membership of city councils involved lucrative opportunities for independent decision-making, and, despite its obligations, became seen as a privilege. Under a series of emperors who each adopted a mature and capable successor, the Empire did not require civil wars to regulate the imperial succession. Requests could be submitted directly to the better emperors, and the answers had the force of law, putting the imperial power directly in touch with even humble subjects.[16] The cults of polytheist religion were hugely varied, but none claimed that theirs was the only truth, and their followers displayed mutual tolerance, producing a polyphonous religious harmony.[17] Religious strife was rare after the suppression of the Bar Kokhba revolt in 136 (after which the devastated Judaea ceased to be a major centre for Jewish unrest). Heavy mortality in 165-180 from the Antonine Plague seriously impaired attempts to repel Germanic invaders, but the legions generally held or at least speedily re-instated the borders of the Empire.[18] »

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    “WE PEOPLE JUST WANT TO LIVE HAVE FAMILIES GROW THINGS MAKE THINGS”

    It would be wise to let them do so in peace or they’ll take it by war.

    Rest is dreaming, nonsense.

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  • Seth Largo Says:

    At the end of the article, all I heard was Anissimov and Spencer laughing maniacally from their rural breeding outposts.

    I do wish Admin had flirted with the offensive observations that a) as long as the world has more high-IQ rural peasants for the cities to pull in, the cities might continue the game forever, but that b) certain parts of the world seem to be running out of high-IQ rural peasants, leaving the cities to test the waters with demographic groups who have not been selected by modernity but selected for it by an overly sanguine elite.

    Less offensively, certain cities are now having to drag in peoples who have successfully rejected Western modernity for centuries. They might monkeywrench the whole system.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This comment nails it. China might succumb to the same fates soon enough

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    collen ryan Reply:

    In the white population average IQ proles produce half the incoming class of high IQ children, Because they so out number cog elites and their smart fraction is what it is.
    None of these are stabilized at these high IQs and not all of them enter the elite institutions. But as per Murray et al most do indeed marry within a few IQ points whether in their own class or off at university.They also bring new blood to the cog elite gene pool thats been isolated.
    There are also high IQ prole families that have been throwing high IQ prole children for generations, some stay in their class, most probably leave per murray. .Opportunities for high IQ proles both stabilized and new entrants within their own class have been shrinking for decades, of course opportunities have been shrinking above their class as well both because immigration etc.The prole class at least always had children family being one of the incentives for them not to leave their class.
    Non white population wont be able to produce new high IQ entrants at the same replacement rates.

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    Malcer Reply:

    > Less offensively, certain cities are now having to drag in peoples who have successfully rejected Western modernity for centuries

    The world outside of Nigger Africa and some abnormalities only have about 2 kids, maybe 3 if lucky.

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  • Claire Colebrook Says:

    Chateau Heartiste:

    “The open borders project forced by a (((0.1%er elite))) on an unwilling citizenry can be viewed in the context of this post as a poisoned ameliorative for the negatives of big city life, specifically the fertility depression and the spiritual depression brought on by social atomization. It’s no wonder elections are more and more shaping up into existential battles between the working and middle classes in the countryside and the dregs and upper classes in the cities. Rome fell under similar strains. Barring a Trumpian reversal, we will too.”

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  • Claire Colebrook Says:

    Rothsteinberg here

    Support Trans Muslim youth

    Visit your nearest woman-centered mosque and get on social media to say nice things about LGBTQIA+ Muslims.

    Reach out to a Muslim friend and ask how you can support her this Ramadan.

    If you hear something or see something Islamophobic, say something, report it to the SPLC

    Become a pen pal with an incarcerated LGBTQ Muslim!

    Let this summer be a time where you can uplift and learn from one another.

    As this Ramadan comes to an end, Masjid al-Rabia and Everyone is Gay are joining up for the Longest Days, Sacred Nights campaign, a month-long program of support and celebration for LGBTQ Muslim youth.

    For more information, contact me at the ADL (or SPLC) to ask how you can get involved too!

    rothsteinberg@adl.com

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  • collen ryan Says:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Jeffers

    This guys new to me but I like him.

    Decaying Lambskins

    After all, we also stand on a height. Our blood and our culture
    have passed the flood-marks of any world
    Up to this time. Our engineers have nothing to learn from Rome’s,
    Egypt’s, China’s, and could teach them more
    Than ever their myth-makers imagined. Our science, however
    confused, personal and fabulous, can hardly
    Lean low enough, sun-blinded eagle, to laugh at the strange
    astronomies of Babylon, or at Lucretius
    His childish dreams of origins, or Plato’s
    Lunatic swan. While as for our means and mastery of warfare, at
    sea, on land, in the air …
    So boastful?
    Because we are not proud but wearily ashamed of this peak of
    time. What is noble in us, to kindle
    The imagination of a future age? We shall seem a race of cheap
    Fausts, vulgar magicians.
    What men have we to show them? but inventions and appliances.
    Not men but populations, mass-men; not life
    But amusements; not health but medicines. And the odor: what
    is that odor? Decaying lambskins: the Christian
    Ideals that for protection and warmth our naked ancestors . . .
    but naturally, after nineteen centuries . . .

    O Mort, vieux capitaine, est-il temps, nous levons l’ancre? It is perhaps
    Time, almost time, to let our supreme inventions begin to work.
    The exact intelligent guns
    Can almost wheel themselves into action of their own accord, and
    almost calculate their own trajectories.
    The clever battleships know their objectives; the huge bombing-planes
    and meteor pursuit-planes are all poised for … what?
    Vanity. This also is vanity; horrible too, but a vain dream.
    Our civilization, the worst it can do, cannot yet destroy itself;
    but only deep-wounded drag on for centuries.

    We Are Those People

    I have abhorred the wars and despised the liars, laughed at the frightened
    And forecast victory; never one moment’s doubt.
    But now not far, over the backs of some crawling years, the next
    Great war’s column of dust and fire writhes
    Up the sides of the sky: it becomes clear that we too may suffer
    What others have, the brutal horror of defeat—
    Or if not in the next, then in the next—therefore watch Germany
    And read the future. We wish, of course, that our women
    Would die like biting rats in the cellars, our men like wolves on the mountain:
    It will not be so. Our men will curse, cringe, obey;
    Our women uncover themselves to the grinning victors for bits of chocolate.

    an eagles beak

    An eagle’s nest on the head of an old redwood on one of the
    precipice-footed ridges
    Above Ventana Creek, that jagged country which nothing but a
    falling meteor will ever plow; no horseman
    Will ever ride there, no hunter cross this ridge but the winged
    ones, no one will steal the eggs from this fortress.
    The she-eagle is old, her mate was shot long ago, she is now mated
    with a son of hers.
    When lightning blasted her nest she built it again on the same
    tree, in the splinters of the thunderbolt.
    The she-eagle is older than I; she was here when the fires of
    eighty-five raged on these ridges,
    She was lately fledged and dared not hunt ahead of them but ate
    scorched meat. The world has changed in her time;
    Humanity has multiplied, but not here; men’s hopes and thoughts
    and customs have changed, their powers are enlarged,
    Their powers and their follies have become fantastic,
    The unstable animal never has been changed so rapidly. The
    motor and the plane and the great war have gone over him,
    And Lenin has lived and Jehovah died: while the mother-eagle
    Hunts her same hills, crying the same beautiful and lonely cry and
    is never tired; dreams the same dreams,
    And hears at night the rock-slides rattle and thunder in the throats
    of these living mountains.
    It is good for man
    To try all changes, progress and corruption, powers, peace and
    anguish, not to go down the dinosaur’s way
    Until all his capacities have been explored: and it is good for him
    To know that his needs and nature are no more changed in fact
    in ten thousand years than the beaks of eagles.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    10/10

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    The Dividualist sayeth

    Just a thought… if heredity > parenting, we may as well pay 140 IQ people for their sperm/eggs and raise the kids en masse in state orphanages. Or it could be a private foundation.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Productivity as a corporate resource

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Re-product

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  • collen ryan Says:

    @

    race it is used at many scales, and in a sense my jewish son is my most definitive race in another sense he has less of “my” DNA than my daughter whose mother is probably a 4th cousin several times over. He probably has less of “my” DNA than even my nephews cousins etc. Obviously its been a long time since grade school biology and the good fathers pea plants so forgive my ignorance if i have the math wrong.But this is the thing about the larger grains of race we really are family we marry strangers that turn out to be related already on all sorts of levels. these pairings are not really random they are redundant we are inbred, we occasionally outbreed then revert back to inbreeding and culture helps that return.That son can never take my place as head of the clan, I dont know what to do about the inheritance its a mess. i wouldn’t let the nazis have him but i wouldn’t vote for him as president either.hes innocent I should have been prosecuted for the situation.Another cheston fence

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  • Claire Colebrook Says:

    Rothsteinberg here

    Make no mistake about it: we intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as “the white race” is destroyed—not “deconstructed” but destroyed

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  • Claire Colebrook Says:

    Rothsteinberg here

    After all, what’s going to be left when there is no more category of whiteness?

    Yes, there will still be people with white skin who can trace their genetic ancestry to Europe but who have lost all sense of belonging to a racial category.

    And there will still be people who categorize themselves as Jews and Blacks and Asians and various subdivisions of Asians. These people will continue to have a sense of racial/ethnic identity and they will continue to act on the basis of this identity.

    But once our work is completed, ONLY Whites will be left without an identity and hence without weapons in the racial/ethnic struggle. …

    When only Whites are left without an identity and hence without weapons in the racial/ethnic struggle, it doesn’t take much imagination to suppose that actual genocide of Whites is the next step.

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  • Rickaby33 Says:

    Nice stuff, Land. Looking forward to more of these, you old genius.

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Zardoz, june 20th

    What makes it out of a city alive? Only Capital.

    Hehe. Capital too will temporally die down if what maintains and invigorates it will die.

    There’s nothing to say that if the Anglos (in the widest sense) die out that Capitalism won’t die out. Why won’t the “auto”Chtonous genes not revert back to their old ways without the Viking impetus of the Angels?

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    Malcer Reply:

    There literally isn’t any major human habitable area free of Capital outside of Nigger Africa (at most). And that will change once the China are done with it.

    Accept it or not, Capital has spread well beyond Europe.

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    post-Landian post-nihilist Reply:

    Capital is older than europe. Wikipedia defines Capitalism as “Capitalism is an economic system and an ideology based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.[1][2][3].”

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