Mitochondrial Eve

Without wanting to set off the usual suspects, this research into Ashkenazi ancestry is fascinating. Based on MtDNA analysis, it is evident that: “Overall, at least 80 percent of Ashkenazi maternal ancestry comes from women indigenous to Europe, and 8 percent from the Near East, with the rest uncertain, the researchers estimate.”

Jewish matrilineal cultural descent starts to look extraordinarily odd. Also, a final goodbye to Koestler’s Khazar hypothesis.

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October 9, 2013admin 14 Comments »
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  • VXXC Says:

    The Downfall has always been the Rabbis. Without malice, it’s simply true. The entire package of methods is insane on it’s face, and all they dysfunctional relationships can be traced to the Rabbincal methods.

    Jesus of course was of the Rabbincal school. Christianity is as different as Islam, so no all babies must not be thrown out with all bathwater.

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    Posted on October 9th, 2013 at 11:52 am Reply | Quote
  • fake_username Says:

    Good riddance to Koestler’s logic-defying Khazar hypothesis.

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    Posted on October 9th, 2013 at 12:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    O/T …this may not be the Singularity you’re looking for.. BUT..it’s the one you’re likely to get.

    Eventually the “Manipulating Procedural Outcomes” faction was going to run out the string on playing all ends against all middles.

    If we’re not there, we can see it from here and NOW .

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    James A. Donald Reply:

    “This”? Where is link, or other identifying information?

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    Posted on October 9th, 2013 at 2:20 pm Reply | Quote
  • Matt Olver Says:

    I suspect the real genetic analysis is just getting off the ground and underway these days. Make no mistake about it. You will see competing theories like that NYT article, and from passionate and biased sources just like in the field of climate science. Nobody wants to upset their Jewish mother. I believe more in an amalgamation theory of the Ashkenazi people. There is something to be said about Eran Elhaik, Shlomo Sand, and Arthur Koestler hypothesis.

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    Handle Reply:

    Actually, Cochran says the latest research means there is no longer anything to be said about Koestler and the Khazar theory. It’s simply false – just look at the genes.

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    Matt Olver Reply:

    Right, the Khazars never existed and faded out of civilization.

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    admin Reply:

    I think the point is that there’s no evidence “Khazarian DNA” made a substantial contribution to the Ashkenazi gene pool.

    Posted on October 9th, 2013 at 2:37 pm Reply | Quote
  • VXXC Says:

    If True = Human Nature.

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    Posted on October 9th, 2013 at 6:03 pm Reply | Quote
  • Matt Olver Says:

    Either way this is a fascinating topic to me and I will be keeping tabs on the genetic information being presented. It seems to be a revitalized field of interest given that we now have great genetic technology and methodologies available these days. I’m keeping an open mind about it all.

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    Posted on October 10th, 2013 at 1:13 am Reply | Quote
  • Jacob Says:

    This isn’t really new or controversial. It’s really just confirmation of what was always the most plausible hypothesis: that the Ashkenazi are descended from Middle Eastern men who took local European women as wives and then formed a relatively endogamous community. This sort of gene flow has generally been the pattern between Europe and the Middle East anyway.

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    Posted on October 10th, 2013 at 1:40 am Reply | Quote
  • C. Y. Chen Says:

    Isn’t Jewish descent traditionally matrilineal, anyway?

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    admin Reply:

    Yes.

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    C. Y. Chen Reply:

    Ah, damn, I didn’t see that last part of the original post.

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    Posted on October 10th, 2013 at 8:15 pm Reply | Quote

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