Moron bites (#22)

Prominent opponent of white nationalism chalked-in to speak at Berkeley, so (of course) this happens.

The Left, as pretty much everyone now recognizes, is a fascism factory.

ADDED: Sailer’s coverage. “Seriously, what % of the political violence in the U.S. over the last 18 months has been from Trump’s side of the spectrum and what % from the respectable side? […] 5% vs. 95%? […] 2% vs. 98%? […] I resist the 1% vs. 99% ratio as improbable (although, admittedly, possible).”

February 2, 2017admin 52 Comments »
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  • pyrrhus Says:

    Fascism, communism, anarchism…..Any “ism” will do for the young, violent and braindead….

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    Wagner Reply:

    Something can’t be dead if it was never alive.

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 5:14 pm Reply | Quote
  • vnord Says:

    Before I clicked the link, I thought admin meant by his last sentence that the left has fascistic tendencies. That may be a valid interpretation, but I assume that admin is actually referring to the reaction that their behaviour will inevitably produce.

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    Silverspeed Reply:

    Well spotted. Kudos. [Apologies for the ‘reply fail’.]

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    Anon Reply:

    It’s the same as Ernst Nolte’s thesis on how fascism arises (actual fascism is always a reaction to out of control leftists).

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    admin Reply:

    Yes.

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    Peter A. Taylor Reply:

    How do you classify Robespierre? Is he left, right, and/or fascist?

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 6:04 pm Reply | Quote
  • Ur-mail Says:

    At least CBS SF is calling it a “riot”. Although further on they blame the violence on an anonymous group of provocateurs. I suppose they can be forgiven for thinking there’s a clean violent/non-violent distinction when it comes to the contemporary left.

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  • Silverspeed Says:

    Well spotted. Kudos.

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 6:38 pm Reply | Quote
  • SVErshov Says:

    somebody here have to do that, open that hell door, even hell need an exit. simple sequence based on period (T) doubling, it takes 4T for system to repeat itself. once at 4T system behavior become aperiodic, finita la commedia. inreasing stohasticity bypassing any general governing elements. mathematical horror of our time. I wish Althusser would be alive. structuralism and instrumentalism – what nice toys for political movements to play on journey to success, if becoming a zombies can be interpretted as success.

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 6:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • Silverspeed Says:

    Become who you are!

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 6:40 pm Reply | Quote
  • Alrenous Says:

    “We must defend our university!”

    >”How do we do that?”

    “Set it on fire!”

    >”YEAH! ALRIGHT!”

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    lol

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    Posted on February 2nd, 2017 at 10:31 pm Reply | Quote
  • smg Says:

    AntiFa NYC is threatening to shutdown a Gavin McInnis event tonight at 6:30 & “counter protesters” have threatened to show up to protect the event. We’ll have to see if anything actually occurs.

    2 of the guys beaten at UCBerk were in Gavin’s ProudBoys group.

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  • Wagner Says:

    Nicholas Stuart Land, you eschew dialectics for priestcraft. The left is a fascism factory, but what factory produced the left?

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    admin Reply:

    Cathedral machinery.

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    Wagner Reply:

    *priestcraft intensifies*

    This used to be the premiere forum for reactionary discourse, what happened

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    Seer Reply:

    You and Michael happened.

    SVErshov Reply:

    how ‘esprit de mourir sans trace’ can be made secular intelligeble

    Anon Reply:

    Shitposting, low-effort retards like yourself and the other /fringe/-tier esoteric LARPers turned up.

    Wagner Reply:

    Seer and Anon, michael and I are symptoms – you beg the question of why we turned up. Trust me, I don’t want to be here either; I’m following the insectoid alien’s orders largely against my will. It’s increasingly pathetic admin or one of you nauseatingly meek lurkers haven’t fathomed a way to silence us.

    Wagner Reply:

    Anon, you evidently have a glob of pondscum obscuring your third eye hahahahhaha

    I dedicate more mental energy to preserving and radicalizing NRx than most people alive, I guarantee you that. Problem is you guys have gotten complacent and aren’t willing to think outside the box anymore. Moldbug, Land, and now the alt-right have neutered you. You have the truth now, go back to bed, all is well.

    michael Reply:

    Cathedral Machinery may have PWND the Left but commie Jews undeniably produced the Left.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Unless we admit rightism has its flaws we’re going to continue going around in the cycle of death and rebirth.

    michael Reply:

    Undoubtedly rightism has flaws ironically it was the DE/HBD that made me admit capitalism was flawed, not fatally unless we continued to deny people dont always act rationally and i dont only mean the consumers the producers also sell ropes to mobs.

    I realized that absolute free markets end up with no competition and myriad other things. The answer isnt socialism or massive regulation but it is admitting reality and making some swart tweaks. think whites like socialism in the sense they want to reduce their own risk and the risk of them having to look at unpleasantness, But I dont think they like welfare at all i think they want solvent insurance plans, I dont see a problem with that in an ethno state.

    Reaction made me rethink Galts gulch I began to see if you dont give civilization primacy over capitalism then you end with a civilization that will reject capitalism, you also will end up with a civilization that all the capital in the world does not make tenable.

    @SEER
    Maybe but I dont see on any other reactionary blog, guys that used to spend time here,with quite the same type of reaction. This type seems like Soros meets GATTACA

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    RITUAL IDEALISATION & COLONIAL SEATING AT THE ‘REALITY CULT’
    (cathexis kathedra apoikia aletheia) 01

    If “Cathedral machinery” is an extension of what might be called ‘cathedral traditions’; and if said traditions are those which the Right wish to ‘conserve’; then there are two conceptions of such extension: both calling on the alleged unity of a single body of traditions.
    As far as I can tell, ‘Outside in’ usually seems to characterise these twin conceptual facets according to polar distributions concerning a combinatorics of Universalism; Morality; and empirical efficacity, as regards an assumed reality, specified only according to a selective history of effects.
    There are various ways partisan contrast can be drawn over this background of determining polarities; no single contrast being an absolute, or possessed of the same relations and determinants, with respect to the variable rubrics of alternative partisan articulation.
    This complexity of highly differentiality suggests at the partisan level an irresolvable aporia. But this apparent incommensurability is an effect of restriction to this partisan level, reducing the horizon of uncontentious policy articulation to that of an ideological conjunction between partisan articulations. This zone of theoretical conjunction is necessarily, at any particular time, of a more limited extent than the entire range of political possibility. As it stands, this is merely a logical truism. Assuming a restriction of political possibility to sanity and good taste, this statement still stands as true. It is at this point that a structural difficulty inherent in any political process, informed by multiple partisan ideologies, begins to emerge. The zone of ideological conjunction does not equal, at any moment, the zone of all available and sane political actions. This is not trivial, as it indicates an unavoidable structural exclusion of not only viable but superior and more effective political actions, residing outside the zone of ideological conjunction. Although the zone-state is susceptible to fluctuations, stallings, reversions, and even wholesale disappearances into inflations of partisan conflict; the structural principle remains the same.
    One could imagine, that this difficulty could be removed by a ‘democracy of unanimity’, reducing partisan difference to nominal and ineffectual ornamentation. Or by an unbiased sovereign, disinterested to the point of transcending the role of sovereignty. But if if either of these resolutions are enforced without universal assent, their respective strengths are merely contingent on such forces of resolution.
    Hierarchical resolutions based on enforcements of empirical, environmental, and social criteria, are subject to logics of fluctuation regarding those criteria.
    Reality, is always a production.
    Critiquing that production, according to idealisations of its former and allegedly constitutive stages, can only follow a regressive and narrow nostalgia of those idealisations, themselves configured by the political history of structural exclusion mentioned earlier. Replaying the building of machinery one wishes to overcome, is highly unlikely to lead to different results.

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    michael ryan Reply:

    OK Sokal
    Yes MM postulated that conservatism was conserving old liberalism both Christianity( or for him at least Puritanism)and enlightenment egalitarianism.Therefore Conservatism was always vulnerable to Alysnskis hold them to their own values, setting up the left ratchet.But he thought the motivation of most of the cathedral machinery was self interest not ideology, sometimes the payoff is simply status withing the overton in group, usually its turf defense. MM blames demotism and advises hierarchy. Because all possible sides that you would deem sane are invested in demotism, politics is eschewed and collapse is pined for. From here most reactionaries imagined vaguely fascist phoenix arising this excited the nazis and a middle ground of alt right emerged between HRX and nazis. Land takes it to Stalinist Heights and imagines Post Apocalypse sanity would bow to horror and reality in all its glory. He would skip the mere better human hierarchies and go for the post human hierarchy. Which of course begs the question why we would care and what exactly is the difference between Lands Land and the eye of Soros.
    You are still hung up on subjective morality which is cute coming from a leftist that used deconstruction to dismantle the west on the grounds that morality is subjective. Well youre right on the political level value is subjective. While it may be impossible to measure reality with absolute certainty 2 plus 2 equals four is close enough down as far as we have drilled thus far, But you are correct its a utilitarian argument, do we run the world for the good of the most or the good of the best.Your argument can be dispensed with immediately, ultimately running the world for the most in the long run destroys the most. The question for the other side is how do you run a world for the best without a best spiral leading to lands stalinism of the bots. Land thinks you cant its inevitable which sort of smacks of the Cathedrals approach to demotism, brazilification its inevitable.Arguing for anything else comes up against the argument that your proposal might work for a while but its unsustainable indefinitely. That if you can not proposes a perpetual non motion machine you lose. But this is life adaptation, to say we must have anarchic demotic stasis or AI robotic stasis because they are the only sustainable choices is to not get life.to deny evolution not champion it.

    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    At first scan, it doesn’t look like you’ve understood.
    Firstly, I never actually proposed anything (“Arguing for anything else comes up against the argument that your proposal might work for a while but its unsustainable indefinitely.”).
    Secondly, I didn’t discuss subjective morality (“You are still hung up on subjective morality which is cute coming from a leftist that used deconstruction to dismantle the west on the grounds that morality is subjective.”)
    Thirdly, I’m not a ‘leftist’.

    “highly differentiality”, should have read, “high differentiality”.

    Not sure why you resorted to Sokal, everything was spelt out simply and systematically,

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Uphold Leninist-Bannonist Thought

    https://twitter.com/morrowin33/status/827136892881739776

    The most primitive elementary work of the Leninist-Bannonist Nationalist International

    is to simply reverse Lenin´s sayings but to keep and deploy their revolutionary potential against the Cathedral. For Capital (the prime Capital is obviously the generative peoples).

    The world´s racists will have to undergo trials immeasurably graver than those formerly met; they will have to fight a monster compared with which an antiracist law in a constitutional country seems but a dwarf. History has now confronted us with an immediate task which is the most revolutionary of all the immediate tasks confronting the patriots of any country. The fulfilment of this task, the destruction of the most powerful bulwark, not only of European, but (it may now be said) of Asiatic Cathedral reaction, would make the American proletariat the vanguard of the international revolutionary proletariat. And we have the right to count upon acquiring this honourable title, already earned by our predecessors, the revolutionaries of the thirties, if we succeed in inspiring our movement, which is a thousand times broader and deeper, with the same devoted determination and vigour.

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    Wagner Reply:

    Erikson, funny part is we’d be appropriating a leftist’s appropriation of rightism:

    “While the revolution in Germany is still slow in “coming forth”, our task is to study the state capitalism of the Germans, to spare no effort in copying it and not shrink from adopting dictatorial methods to hasten the copying of it. Our task is to hasten this copying even more than Peter hastened the copying of Western culture by barbarian Russia, and we must not hesitate to use barbarous methods in fighting barbarism. If there are anarchists and Left Socialist-Revolutionaries (I recall off-hand the speeches of Karelin and Ghe at the meeting of the Central Executive Committee) who indulge in Narcissus-like reflections and say that it is unbecoming for us revolutionaries to “take lessons” from German imperialism, there is only one thing we can say in reply: the revolution that took these people seriously would perish irrevocably (and deservedly).” – V. Lenin, “On Left-Wing Childishness”

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    This is exactly right. We do what is appropriate!

    Seth Largo Reply:

    The left is a fascism factory, but what factory produced the left?

    Gnon. Some children just can’t stand it when reality doesn’t play out the way they want it to. The first leftist was a failed merchant who’d rather blame merchanting instead of his own shitty business plan.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    The left is a fascism factory, but what factory produced the left?

    Good question. The answer is: that because of cosmo-physics there has to be a left.

    For the dialectic, no? For the pump. The transmission. The stream.

    The spiral. The fire. The flow. The fume. The forge.

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    Kevin C. Reply:

    @Wagner

    “The left is a fascism factory, but what factory produced the left?”

    The Second Law of Thermodynamics.

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    Posted on February 3rd, 2017 at 4:07 am Reply | Quote
  • Kino Says:

    “Cathedral machinery”

    = agent provocateur subroutine

    = demon system probe

    Starbucks windows meme, nay script, copy/paste WTO Seattle.

    First lists. Make truthers of us all.

    Get caffeinated if. we. must. refugee.

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  • Saldim Says:

    The Fascists were in significant ways members of the Left.

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    Posted on February 3rd, 2017 at 11:18 am Reply | Quote
  • yado Says:

    what do you suggest we do to prevent violence and ensure the peaceful forward movement of reality?

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    michael Reply:

    Reality just is, you want forward movement of politics based on reality.Most here would say just wait, but peaceful is unlikely under any scenario. For peace both sides have to want it, at this point neither side wants peace. Both sides realize they are facing at the very least certain subjugation and think they have at least 50% chance of being the subjugator.Both sides are fairly realistic about that.

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  • Mark Says:

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155011096074766&id=546404765&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.10155011096074766%3Atl_objid.10155011096074766%3Athrowback_story_fbid.10155011096074766%3Athid.546404765%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1488355199%3A-3064169737323607619&__tn__=%2As

    Nick, aren`t there parralels with what Patri Friedman here ^^^ and your musings on excitable escalations?

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    admin Reply:

    Probably lots. My only problem with Patri Friedman is that he isn’t mean enough.

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    Seth Largo Reply:

    He still values those invitations to the hippest cocktail parties.

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  • Chris P. Michael Says:

    Of course, the best part of this debacle was President Trump’s response.
    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/827112633224544256 (excuse the mobile link)
    Bring in the tanks, der Trumpenfüher!

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  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    Embrace Imperial Bannonism Thought!

    https://www.scribd.com/document/338121946/PR2-1-17

    Your last and most important line of defense detailed in the Second Amendment you willfully gave away and persecuted those who understood its importance. Yet, many ask how a government that strips people of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is stopped. Look to your history books.

    Senator Schumer recently stated The Statue of Liberty is weeping, and he is right. She does not weep because of us. She has always known we exist. She knows avarice, malice, hate, fear and division will reign supreme is left unchecked. However, she weeps, because you have lost sight of what freedom costs. “Freedom isn’t free,” has become a punchline to most.

    However, even in the most peaceful of times it is not free. It requires vigilance, engagement, compromise, understanding and most importantly sacrifice. The cost skyrockets with each passing day tyranny and fear grow. Our bet is you are unwilling to pay it.

    So, keep protesting peacefully. Keep calling your representatives. Keep posting on social media that I am running the government from the shadows. I am.

    What are you going to do to stop me?

    Welcome to our New America.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    http://imgur.com/gallery/HAevt

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    admin Reply:

    ‘Thielism’ seems to be gaining currency.

    The roots of Occult Historical Bannonism also coming into focus.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Uphold Thielism-Bannonism Thought!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-eYbUVZedY

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  • michael ryan Says:

    @Wagner

    Yes as Ive said to you guys for years now the left is the only way a ratchet can turn once a civilization is optimized, I explained the best and brightest generations after civilizational optimization can not gain much status in merely keeping the nation fine tuned, being a spoiled lazy generation raised without the possibility of death informing decisions they are innumerate about cost benefit and seek glory in leftist projects of dubious benefit. A well tuned society is rewarding the worthy leaving a large pool of unworthy to be courted. The first step in the degeneration of a nation is to allow this situation. The unworthy are worthy as a potential force of change and must always be treated with enough respect to keep them from changing their allegiance, instead more unworthies are often brought in to undercut the value of unworthiness. Or elites are allowed to cheat the least worthy out of their salt and some upstart marches on rome. To blame the unworthies is to reveal your unworthiness to lead them

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  • Adolph Verloc Says:

    The police are far worse than leftists. And although they primarily attack foreigners, American soldiers on active duty are criminal scum who belong in gas chambers.

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    admin Reply:

    Realism means realizing there’s no (non-comic) constituency for this ‘analysis’.

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    Artxell Knaphni Reply:

    Why don’t you say that when citing so-called ‘Left’ shenanigans?

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  • Fry Says:

    Calexit would be… not exactly a tragedy for Trump admin. Upcoming Milo book release. You’re better than this, Nick

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    admin Reply:

    You’re saying that any fair observer would see an obvious false-flag operation? Okay, you’ve put that out there. Doesn’t affect the social media explosion of Leftist celebration for street violence, which I can’t believe you’ve missed.

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