Comments on: Neoreactionary Problems

By: Lesser Bull

Lesser Bull — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:11:37 +0000

At certain levels of income and at certain levels of lack of family ties and other commitments.

So, yes, if you’re single, rootless, and make a lot of money, its easy to avoid any serious issues with communities being destroyed.

By: Prudence

Prudence — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 04:06:54 +0000

Let me rephrase the question. What does a competent statistical model of IQ inheritance look like? If “revert to the mean” means what I think it does, there is some information about a child’s genetic endowment that comes from knowing its grandparents IQs, which is not captured through knowing the parents’ IQs. Something like:

Childs_IQ = weight_1 * parents_IQ + weight_2 * grandparents_IQ + random

Is this even close?

By: Antisthenes

Antisthenes — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 03:12:15 +0000

The problem you’re referring to, to my mind, is only relevant if you’re participating in Voice rather than Exit. Say what you will about the greying trajectory of race as miscegenation becomes more and more common, but the well-defined correlations between racial heritage, aggression, and IQ are very useful for those of us that have to exist in the same social space as the Tyrones and Jahvariuses.

By: Antisthenes

Antisthenes — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 03:06:56 +0000

I’ve never heard of bad genes ‘cancelling each other out’ in some sort of analogy with mathematics. It’s likely that a +10 IQ point increase is genetic, although having seen a number of IQ tests it wouldn’t surprise me if training in formal logic (environmental) boosted one’s IQ score. I can’t see that childhood reading would vastly improve IQ score beyond conferring the basic linguistic resources needed to comprehend the test itself.

If Suzy’s IQ is 110 and the mean is 100, she’s not a true outlier, just on the brighter side of the population (‘outliers’ are 2 sds from the mean if I remember correctly).

By: Prudence

Prudence — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:57:41 +0000

Is “environmental” something like reading to your children, which is a cultural trait that is likely to be passed from parent to child? Or is it a euphemism for random fetal development events that are not likely to be repeated? Does Suzy’s 10 IQ points above the population average mean that she is an outlier with good genes, or that two kinds of bad genes happened to randomly and freakishly cancel each other out on that particular roll of the dice?

By: Kgaard

Kgaard — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 02:10:02 +0000

Handle, that’s actually a pretty low bar. If the goal is just to be left alone, that’s easy. You almost have to go out of your way to find trouble in the US. A few inner city neighborhoods are problematic and that’s about it. (And nobody goes there anyway — I’ve lived around DC the last 8 years and never ONCE went to Anacostia, except maybe driving past it to go out to Rehoboth Beach.) The other 500 million square miles of the US are fine.

I guess ultimately this is part of my point: There isn’t enough stress on the system yet to get people up in arms. That Richard Florida article Nick linked to seems interesting. Basically the elites are starting to look at this and say, “Okay, we’ve got all these foreigners here. Now we need to think about maintaining high-toned community for me and my kids. How do I do that without causing too much fuss?” It ain’t that hard, really. Just make sure you don’t support the really crazy policies like forced integration of NEIGHBORHOODS or school busing. People will just sort by wealth and problems will be largely contained. We can continue on as we are for a long time.

And, anyway, there is always Europe and Asia. Lots of nice places in the world. The amount of global landmass that actively suffers from white/minority conflict is so small as to be almost infinitesimal.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:57:53 +0000

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By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:56:22 +0000

well i think you a solution you find palatable or think politically expedient if we check our premises we might have to recalculate.Is the status quo sustainable is that really an option?
Theres a race war underway so far whites are not fighting back,As Derbyshire argues in a speech he gave at 2012CPAC that might change , I dont mean prole whites which is another possibility but he means elite whites might turn against multiculturalism, they might even swing hard the other way as these things sometimes go.But another thing that might make status quo unsustainable is cost;its massive and our war dividend is long gone.
Consider the real total costs of diversity, not just Lincolns transforming a Union of states into a Leviathan, or even the trillion a year in welfare and another trillion in crime courts police prisons ,the constant shakedowns like mortgages for welfare cases and AA jobs, the corporate shakedowns by poverty pimps are massive see Vdare,,the degradation of our education system, the destruction of our once great and beautiful cities, The immense cost of medicine for highly violent low future time oriented promiscuous hunter gatherers. The rape and murder of our people. think about how every right in the bill of rights has been twisted and torn to shreds to accommodate barbarity. Now Imagine for a moment a country that didn’t have those costs, didn’t have to apologize and wipe out its culture and heritage but rather it flourished, imagine if Hip Hop didn’t rule the world, Imagine if all the white apologists in the media academia government civil service art social and hard sciences were instead doing honest productive work. Imagine if all the Affirmative action jobs and college places were filled with honest intelligent diligent people how much lower the cost of government the productivity of our country would be.
In other words We are spending at least a trillion a year in hard borrowed cash for minorities and another trillion in the five fingered discount. The other western nations are in the same boat and our credit lines are tapped and the money printing has created a situation where all the major banks in the world have about 75TRILLION in credit default swaps on interest rates and forex bets they are planning for bail ins thats where you wake up and all your accounts have been swapped for worthless shares in the Cathedral. This just might not be sustainable.
Another thing to consider is all these mexicans could as easily head south as they did north if the situation changed, if the economy got bad enough the natives no longer so hospitable law enforcement started enforcing laws. under the right government yes you could pass a law saying anyone who citizenship was gained fraudulently is rescinded along with all children born since thats a lot of caribeans africans mexicans depending on the interpreter all of them.
So while I agree from the here and now its hard to imagine it happening voluntarily but if push came to shove even whites might put self preservation first now we are too fat and happy.
Austrailia new zealand, greece france and england seem to be developing a significant anti immigrant trend.We live in interesting times

By: Handle

Handle — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:54:22 +0000

Start something new. Separate, secede, exit, go Galt, whatever you want to call it. New entrance is by invitation only. You set up any selection criteria you want. Maybe you let Linda in, maybe you don’t, maybe she couldn’t care less.

You don’t have to ‘do’ anything to anybody. You don’t have to get everybody to sign on to your plan. You just have to find a way to defend your desire to be left alone in peaceful coexistence with the wrecked nations so you can watch from afar, instead of within.

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:29:50 +0000

im not expert or even amatuer on this but roughly if you get into sites like gene expression human varieties HBDchick Jayman west hunter the mendelian formulas from biology class will come back or not. Even then intelligence isnt a single gene so really we only have the statistical results to work back from for now. And keep in mind [since your question implies it] one thing that seems to me unresolved is the question of admixture, black in africa are another SD lower than black in western countries. Some have thought its the white admixture, I suspect it is nutrient iodine in fact i think that may be the flynn effect cause. hybrid vigour is another possibility, or even rapid evolution. so you mix marriage question makes a complicated question something omly moldbug could compute.
It seems to me the 50% environment thats bandied about is more political cover or propaganda, when its really discussed technically its more like 80% at least genetic.after basic nutritional needs are met.
So again roughly if you and you mate were from the same population but say a standard deviation higher yourselves your children will revert to their mean about half way and grandchildren the rest of the way but it might be more like you have one very one pretty smart kid and one average. as the bell curve argues cognitive elites are meeting and mating at harvard but it will take a long time for that to show results and in that time the players change so really as i said the future Einsteins will statistically come from the random outliers of average people who are so numerous they will have some long shots.
The really depressing thing in my mind what makes us all dark is the reverse. The AA Huxtables who meet at harvard will have kids that revert to a really low mean a mean below our average so for instance and roughly if they had 100 IQs their kids would probably turn out dumber than the kids of two white parents with 85 IQS.
now to the mixed race couple I think it help if you have a white parent-BUT non african blacks average about 20% white but this doesnt help them so if having a white parent help you it wont help the grandkids.at all.
Now considering blacks have a lot of other genetically determined not so great social skills, do you really want them with enhanced intelligence? . Sounds mean but if we are to be a minority among violent low future time oriented promiscuous high self esteemed faster individuals do you really want to find a way to make them smarter?