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		<title>By: Xoth</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-98220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xoth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2014 19:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does America have Democracy today, or mere Cathedral? Let us ask the permanent bureaucracy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does America have Democracy today, or mere Cathedral? Let us ask the permanent bureaucracy.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97701</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well what you are calling culture I&#039;m calling right and wrong.

Look there was no system that was going to withstand the Boomers.  They should have simply been killed. 

And they still should, and I warrant will. 

NOTHING can be given to Evil humans, especially spoilt selfish fantastically self absorbed still evil children, and expect it to turn out well.  

There was no system save the camps that would have saved civilization from the Boomers.  

I really think we should fix the problem of removing the Evil and Insane from Power - now that&#039;s many lives work there [I mean many will &lt;b&gt; DIE &lt;/b&gt;, not that we can take our time] and the first duty again is to remove the Evil and Insane from Power. 

To prevent it from happening again is you know the work of the next generation.  

There are no systems or Cultures where Evil meets Cowardice and Good prevails. 

If you want to know how Evil was matched against Cowardice:  Intellectuals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well what you are calling culture I&#8217;m calling right and wrong.</p>
<p>Look there was no system that was going to withstand the Boomers.  They should have simply been killed. </p>
<p>And they still should, and I warrant will. </p>
<p>NOTHING can be given to Evil humans, especially spoilt selfish fantastically self absorbed still evil children, and expect it to turn out well.  </p>
<p>There was no system save the camps that would have saved civilization from the Boomers.  </p>
<p>I really think we should fix the problem of removing the Evil and Insane from Power &#8211; now that&#8217;s many lives work there [I mean many will <b> DIE </b>, not that we can take our time] and the first duty again is to remove the Evil and Insane from Power. </p>
<p>To prevent it from happening again is you know the work of the next generation.  </p>
<p>There are no systems or Cultures where Evil meets Cowardice and Good prevails. </p>
<p>If you want to know how Evil was matched against Cowardice:  Intellectuals.</p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97696</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can&#039;t have government over men by pretending they and their basic wants and aspirations don&#039;t exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t have government over men by pretending they and their basic wants and aspirations don&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzle Privateer (@PuzzlePrivateer)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97670</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 17:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There’s no group of men who will stop being MEN simply because of a change of stationary.

CEO government is simply demotist government for the few, and at present the next quarter bonuses no matter what the long term ruin of the corpus [body]. Somehow we are to believe that demotism for the select few is better than demotism for the many.&quot;

There&#039;s something going on unsaid here in #NRx that I think needs to be part of the analysis: Culture Matters.

Culture, like other forms of social cohesion (religion), binds us in a different way that law does but also restricts our behaviors in ways laws can&#039;t.  A guilt culture for example will make you do the right thing even while no one is watching while a shame culture / formal law can only punish you when someone is watching &amp; you can&#039;t weasel your way out of it.  Regulation &amp; formal law isn&#039;t enough you need a culture that supports things like high-trust, honestly, anti-cheating etc.

Law can only do so much, formal structures can only do so much.  A guilt culture that limits your behavior even when no one is watching would help to keep CEO&#039;s in 2014 honest even when the law isn&#039;t watching.

Yes I know Japan is a shame culture and they have low crime etc. but I&#039;m not trying to create a Grand Theory of Culture here, I&#039;m just giving quick examples of familiar scenarios in the West.

If the Amish ran Wall Street (assuming their IQ&#039;s were boosted &amp; the learned how) would you have the problems we have now?  Probably not, actually it would probably create a different set of problems but that&#039;s because with grand complex structures often there are no solutions only trade-offs.  For example, Scott Alexander made good points about race-to-the-bottom problems such as companies maximizing for profit will do better and the less they are constrained by law the better for them.  So if slavery came back in fashion, companies that used slaves should have higher profits (I&#039;m sure there are cases where this is not true). 

&quot;Mao himself made his Long March in a Litter, beheading 10,000 communists along the way.&quot;

So he wasn&#039;t all bad after all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There’s no group of men who will stop being MEN simply because of a change of stationary.</p>
<p>CEO government is simply demotist government for the few, and at present the next quarter bonuses no matter what the long term ruin of the corpus [body]. Somehow we are to believe that demotism for the select few is better than demotism for the many.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something going on unsaid here in #NRx that I think needs to be part of the analysis: Culture Matters.</p>
<p>Culture, like other forms of social cohesion (religion), binds us in a different way that law does but also restricts our behaviors in ways laws can&#8217;t.  A guilt culture for example will make you do the right thing even while no one is watching while a shame culture / formal law can only punish you when someone is watching &amp; you can&#8217;t weasel your way out of it.  Regulation &amp; formal law isn&#8217;t enough you need a culture that supports things like high-trust, honestly, anti-cheating etc.</p>
<p>Law can only do so much, formal structures can only do so much.  A guilt culture that limits your behavior even when no one is watching would help to keep CEO&#8217;s in 2014 honest even when the law isn&#8217;t watching.</p>
<p>Yes I know Japan is a shame culture and they have low crime etc. but I&#8217;m not trying to create a Grand Theory of Culture here, I&#8217;m just giving quick examples of familiar scenarios in the West.</p>
<p>If the Amish ran Wall Street (assuming their IQ&#8217;s were boosted &amp; the learned how) would you have the problems we have now?  Probably not, actually it would probably create a different set of problems but that&#8217;s because with grand complex structures often there are no solutions only trade-offs.  For example, Scott Alexander made good points about race-to-the-bottom problems such as companies maximizing for profit will do better and the less they are constrained by law the better for them.  So if slavery came back in fashion, companies that used slaves should have higher profits (I&#8217;m sure there are cases where this is not true). </p>
<p>&#8220;Mao himself made his Long March in a Litter, beheading 10,000 communists along the way.&#8221;</p>
<p>So he wasn&#8217;t all bad after all!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97620</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoo boy! That guy wasn&#039;t supposed to be allowed off the reservation!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoo boy! That guy wasn&#8217;t supposed to be allowed off the reservation!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, but he surely gets some credit for turning economic policy over to the Chicago boys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, but he surely gets some credit for turning economic policy over to the Chicago boys.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a discussion with a libertarian, so only positive constraints are relevant. If it had been an argument with a socialist, then the negative (and apolitical) stuff would have had to come in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a discussion with a libertarian, so only positive constraints are relevant. If it had been an argument with a socialist, then the negative (and apolitical) stuff would have had to come in.</p>
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		<title>By: Funeral Mongoloid</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Funeral Mongoloid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The direction of many NR’s makes more sense as religious conversion/missionaries.&quot;

Yes indeed. 

http://youtu.be/Y6LqZOfnngg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The direction of many NR’s makes more sense as religious conversion/missionaries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes indeed. </p>
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		<title>By: VXXC</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97605</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Different T nails it cold. 

&quot;They are too weak to say “This is what I want for me and mine” and are forced into arguing “This is better because of reason x, y, z, etc” with those who are not similar.”

Yes.  

I&#039;m also right that many in NRxn including some leading lights desire the Cathedral for themselves, and that this conversation takes place because as the stock of elites is WEAK, including the WASP&#039;s putative successors [who can&#039;t run anything of course and never could, other than trade and criminal enterprises] the stock is WEAK and they have completely lost control of their increasingly bizarre collection of feral or damaged pets.   

 [not admin, who has walked the talk of Exit and done just that, of course he wants to Transhumanize to Victory as well] .

God&#039;s Blood, Gnon&#039;s hammer. Say what you want. Can&#039;t? Don&#039;t think of rule and don&#039;t offer advice. 

Criticism of Progress welcome, Red Pill welcome, infecting Right-Overton and Libertarianism welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Different T nails it cold. </p>
<p>&#8220;They are too weak to say “This is what I want for me and mine” and are forced into arguing “This is better because of reason x, y, z, etc” with those who are not similar.”</p>
<p>Yes.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also right that many in NRxn including some leading lights desire the Cathedral for themselves, and that this conversation takes place because as the stock of elites is WEAK, including the WASP&#8217;s putative successors [who can&#8217;t run anything of course and never could, other than trade and criminal enterprises] the stock is WEAK and they have completely lost control of their increasingly bizarre collection of feral or damaged pets.   </p>
<p> [not admin, who has walked the talk of Exit and done just that, of course he wants to Transhumanize to Victory as well] .</p>
<p>God&#8217;s Blood, Gnon&#8217;s hammer. Say what you want. Can&#8217;t? Don&#8217;t think of rule and don&#8217;t offer advice. </p>
<p>Criticism of Progress welcome, Red Pill welcome, infecting Right-Overton and Libertarianism welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Different T</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/non-democracy/#comment-97595</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Different T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;How could, to take the most fundamental example, the development of a welfare state be realistically considered an inevitable product of the “economic and demographic” zeitgeist? It was a policy decision, and if constrained, it was politically constrained.&lt;/i&gt;

Can Liberia be a &quot;welfare state&quot; if their leaders muster the political will?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How could, to take the most fundamental example, the development of a welfare state be realistically considered an inevitable product of the “economic and demographic” zeitgeist? It was a policy decision, and if constrained, it was politically constrained.</i></p>
<p>Can Liberia be a &#8220;welfare state&#8221; if their leaders muster the political will?</p>
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