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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2013/07/23 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-83037</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Round &#8211; 2013/07/23 &#124; Free Northerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 05:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] On VR and the Oculus Rift. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] On VR and the Oculus Rift. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Xoth</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-81680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xoth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
It was an odd room, a sort of shapeless, plastic-lined cocoon without furnishings. The thing had floated submerged in the fluid. It lay on the floor now, limbs twitching spasmodically.

It was male: the long, white beard was proof of that. It was a pitiful thing, a kind of caricature of humanity, a fantastically hairy gnome curled blindly into a fetal position. It was naked: its skin, where it showed through the matted hair, was grub-white and wrinkled from the long immersion. 

It had floated in this room in its gently moving nest of hair, nourished by the thick, fleshlike cord trailing from a tap protruding through the wall to where it had been grafted to the navel, dreaming the long, slow, happy, fetal dreams.

 ... This was where everybody was. This was the end man had reached.
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(James Gunn, The Joy Makers, 1963)]]></description>
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It was an odd room, a sort of shapeless, plastic-lined cocoon without furnishings. The thing had floated submerged in the fluid. It lay on the floor now, limbs twitching spasmodically.</p>
<p>It was male: the long, white beard was proof of that. It was a pitiful thing, a kind of caricature of humanity, a fantastically hairy gnome curled blindly into a fetal position. It was naked: its skin, where it showed through the matted hair, was grub-white and wrinkled from the long immersion. </p>
<p>It had floated in this room in its gently moving nest of hair, nourished by the thick, fleshlike cord trailing from a tap protruding through the wall to where it had been grafted to the navel, dreaming the long, slow, happy, fetal dreams.</p>
<p> &#8230; This was where everybody was. This was the end man had reached.
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<p>(James Gunn, The Joy Makers, 1963)</p>
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		<title>By: R.</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
In case you weren’t being clear enough for everyone, I’d just like to second how interesting the implications of this potential form for the Great Filter is.
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One could argue that the aliens are all around us but we can&#039;t see them. I&#039;ve seen no good arguments disproving the notion that cognitive processes are inextricably tied to biological materials, nor that they can&#039;t be done with much less material..

There could be alien starships orbiting earth, each inhabited by whole civilizations.. 
Anyone capable of crossing interstellar distances would probably have the technology for very good invisibility all across the el-mag spectrum. 


The universe could be full of intelligent life, and the absence of conspicuous, high energy signalling doesn&#039;t really mean anything.]]></description>
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In case you weren’t being clear enough for everyone, I’d just like to second how interesting the implications of this potential form for the Great Filter is.
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<p>One could argue that the aliens are all around us but we can&#8217;t see them. I&#8217;ve seen no good arguments disproving the notion that cognitive processes are inextricably tied to biological materials, nor that they can&#8217;t be done with much less material..</p>
<p>There could be alien starships orbiting earth, each inhabited by whole civilizations..<br />
Anyone capable of crossing interstellar distances would probably have the technology for very good invisibility all across the el-mag spectrum. </p>
<p>The universe could be full of intelligent life, and the absence of conspicuous, high energy signalling doesn&#8217;t really mean anything.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[CHORUS]

What does he think he&#039;s going to do
A pied piper without a song
Oh, oh he&#039;ll just be all so blue
When they decide not to go along!
But wait - our words have been rescinded
For now the fife has just been winded!]]></description>
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<p>What does he think he&#8217;s going to do<br />
A pied piper without a song<br />
Oh, oh he&#8217;ll just be all so blue<br />
When they decide not to go along!<br />
But wait &#8211; our words have been rescinded<br />
For now the fife has just been winded!</p>
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		<title>By: E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in talking about the Aliens game, he talks about nearly slamming himself against the wall. Some of these advanced gladiatorial (first-person-shooter) virtual games will get bloody.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in talking about the Aliens game, he talks about nearly slamming himself against the wall. Some of these advanced gladiatorial (first-person-shooter) virtual games will get bloody.</p>
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		<title>By: E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. Antony Gray (@RiverC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brain speed limits prevent this. You can only process so fast, so you can only concentrate (or dilute)  time so much.  Thus, unless you were digitized - a process that might cause you to actually consume much more power than you do now - you are stuck in at least &#039;near-meatspace-time&#039;. Whether digitization preserves your nous - that is, the point of your experience of the now - or not, we don&#039;t know and perhaps have no  way to properly test. If it did not, the process would be useless - your mind would still be processing things at an amazing speed, but the simulations would be unnecessary as experience would no longer be direct.

My thought is that the filter, the real filter, is not something the world so much does to us, as we do to ourselves. This is consistent in pattern with the problems man tends to face - &quot;I came not to condemn the world, for the world already stood condemned...&quot; - such as the NSA constructing a panopticon of a size the socialists could only dream of, just by hacking the surveillance devices people willingly brought into their homes.

The logic may be simple that the virtual worlds are better than the real one, and so people incapable of meta-thinking will be trapped and lost. Or, if you will, people who believe this world to already be a simulation may also be lost, choosing the better (more enjoyable) simulation over the worse. 

Anyone play Fallout 3? There was a great - and quite horroristic - part that dealt with the idea of &#039;perfect&#039; virtual simulations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brain speed limits prevent this. You can only process so fast, so you can only concentrate (or dilute)  time so much.  Thus, unless you were digitized &#8211; a process that might cause you to actually consume much more power than you do now &#8211; you are stuck in at least &#8216;near-meatspace-time&#8217;. Whether digitization preserves your nous &#8211; that is, the point of your experience of the now &#8211; or not, we don&#8217;t know and perhaps have no  way to properly test. If it did not, the process would be useless &#8211; your mind would still be processing things at an amazing speed, but the simulations would be unnecessary as experience would no longer be direct.</p>
<p>My thought is that the filter, the real filter, is not something the world so much does to us, as we do to ourselves. This is consistent in pattern with the problems man tends to face &#8211; &#8220;I came not to condemn the world, for the world already stood condemned&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; such as the NSA constructing a panopticon of a size the socialists could only dream of, just by hacking the surveillance devices people willingly brought into their homes.</p>
<p>The logic may be simple that the virtual worlds are better than the real one, and so people incapable of meta-thinking will be trapped and lost. Or, if you will, people who believe this world to already be a simulation may also be lost, choosing the better (more enjoyable) simulation over the worse. </p>
<p>Anyone play Fallout 3? There was a great &#8211; and quite horroristic &#8211; part that dealt with the idea of &#8216;perfect&#8217; virtual simulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80767</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with enjoying these VR exits is that for human civilization it is like a dying patient enjoying the pleasures of a morphine drip. From the inside, it feels good. From the outside, you see it for what it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with enjoying these VR exits is that for human civilization it is like a dying patient enjoying the pleasures of a morphine drip. From the inside, it feels good. From the outside, you see it for what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesser Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The gladiatorial games reached their height as the Roman Republic was breaking down and stayed that way through the early Empire.  Free grain distributions too.  Panem et circenses.

Will some future civilization use &quot;SNAP and VR&quot; as its byword for dole and distraction?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gladiatorial games reached their height as the Roman Republic was breaking down and stayed that way through the early Empire.  Free grain distributions too.  Panem et circenses.</p>
<p>Will some future civilization use &#8220;SNAP and VR&#8221; as its byword for dole and distraction?</p>
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		<title>By: Puzzle Privateer (@PuzzlePrivateer)</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Puzzle Privateer (@PuzzlePrivateer)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 14:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EVE: Valkyrie is one of the first games coming out for it.  Looks pretty.


http://youtu.be/vzOFSSvKfqU

Not sure how to embed videos here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVE: Valkyrie is one of the first games coming out for it.  Looks pretty.</p>
<p><a href="http://youtu.be/vzOFSSvKfqU" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/vzOFSSvKfqU</a></p>
<p>Not sure how to embed videos here.</p>
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		<title>By: Thales</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/oculus/#comment-80749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thales]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2014 13:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to cling bitterly to my cynicism wrt VR. At least with the Google Glass, the user is arguably connected to reality -- perhaps moreso than a tween staring down at her iPhone. Augmetned reality is still augmentation (albeit in a crude, bumbling infancy), continuing the deep heritage of cybernetics, a parallel path of eugenics.

But this O.R. -- well, thatt picture of the kid with darkness consuming his primary sensory organs couldn&#039;t be more apt. All that&#039;s missing is a human-sized vat of gelatin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to cling bitterly to my cynicism wrt VR. At least with the Google Glass, the user is arguably connected to reality &#8212; perhaps moreso than a tween staring down at her iPhone. Augmetned reality is still augmentation (albeit in a crude, bumbling infancy), continuing the deep heritage of cybernetics, a parallel path of eugenics.</p>
<p>But this O.R. &#8212; well, thatt picture of the kid with darkness consuming his primary sensory organs couldn&#8217;t be more apt. All that&#8217;s missing is a human-sized vat of gelatin.</p>
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