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		<title>By: Karl F. Boetel</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-43900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl F. Boetel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What would Carlyle do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Carlyle do?</p>
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		<title>By: Artxell Knaphni</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-43897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artxell Knaphni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Different T 

Que? Oh, yw. lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Different T </p>
<p>Que? Oh, yw. lol</p>
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		<title>By: Different T</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-43870</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Different T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2014 01:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: laofmoonster</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-43806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[laofmoonster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Entropy of  content promotes competition; entropy of infrastructure promotes decay. But the distinction is not always clear: one system&#039;s content is another system&#039;s infrastructure. Just hope that creative destruction points upward and not down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entropy of  content promotes competition; entropy of infrastructure promotes decay. But the distinction is not always clear: one system&#8217;s content is another system&#8217;s infrastructure. Just hope that creative destruction points upward and not down.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-43184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[admin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 17:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... what’s now the critique of (populist) democracy?&quot; -- Structurally defective principles of entropy dissipation (in a society that can vote away -- in reality, vote to diffuse -- consequences). 

I&#039;m reluctant to accept that the &quot;telos of order&quot; has been dropped. Moldbug describes spontaneous order as the highest type of order, and spontaneous order is a dynamic relation to chaos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; what’s now the critique of (populist) democracy?&#8221; &#8212; Structurally defective principles of entropy dissipation (in a society that can vote away &#8212; in reality, vote to diffuse &#8212; consequences). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m reluctant to accept that the &#8220;telos of order&#8221; has been dropped. Moldbug describes spontaneous order as the highest type of order, and spontaneous order is a dynamic relation to chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-43162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A maximally order seeking political philosophy practically complements Neocameralism as it obviates the main critique of this model:  its inability to tolerate and readily dissipate internal sociopolitical discord (civil war by other means).  Of course, realizing Neocameralism as sometimes envisioned, where peoples migrate to the Landeshoheit of desire, would mitigate the problem -- but, in practice, this is unworkable.  In light of your tentative revaluation of order&#039;s virtuousness, let us ask:  If chaos + maximum dissipation is good, what&#039;s now the critique of (populist) democracy?  And since (populist) democracy (with no nannying technoelite) is overly destructive, what&#039;s now the principled critique of mediaocracy -- this is, mediaocracy, as such, not its leftwing incarnate (assuming the two can be disentangled)?  More philosophically, can one drop the order telos and still claim to be a Moldbugian neoreactionary?   This needs some meditation..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A maximally order seeking political philosophy practically complements Neocameralism as it obviates the main critique of this model:  its inability to tolerate and readily dissipate internal sociopolitical discord (civil war by other means).  Of course, realizing Neocameralism as sometimes envisioned, where peoples migrate to the Landeshoheit of desire, would mitigate the problem &#8212; but, in practice, this is unworkable.  In light of your tentative revaluation of order&#8217;s virtuousness, let us ask:  If chaos + maximum dissipation is good, what&#8217;s now the critique of (populist) democracy?  And since (populist) democracy (with no nannying technoelite) is overly destructive, what&#8217;s now the principled critique of mediaocracy &#8212; this is, mediaocracy, as such, not its leftwing incarnate (assuming the two can be disentangled)?  More philosophically, can one drop the order telos and still claim to be a Moldbugian neoreactionary?   This needs some meditation..</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-42915</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Handle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2014 00:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Indian&#039;s tell us that the Phoenix can rise
From the smoldering ashes that once were my eyes
And watch beautiful colours from black and from grey
Be formed into wings and take me away
Where evil is darkness and goodness is light
And love is the lightning that cuts through the night
And strikes only once in a dark place in time
And forms a gold stairway that all of us climb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Indian&#8217;s tell us that the Phoenix can rise<br />
From the smoldering ashes that once were my eyes<br />
And watch beautiful colours from black and from grey<br />
Be formed into wings and take me away<br />
Where evil is darkness and goodness is light<br />
And love is the lightning that cuts through the night<br />
And strikes only once in a dark place in time<br />
And forms a gold stairway that all of us climb.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A. Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-42834</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter A. Taylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 20:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Reaction will work out its contradictions and everybody is going to be very upset. But from their salty tears a phoenix will rise.&quot;

This is beautiful.  But now I have Don McLean&#039;s &quot;Chain Lightning&quot; stuck in my head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reaction will work out its contradictions and everybody is going to be very upset. But from their salty tears a phoenix will rise.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is beautiful.  But now I have Don McLean&#8217;s &#8220;Chain Lightning&#8221; stuck in my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-42766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 17:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah then USG told them to name names and they opened the books next]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah then USG told them to name names and they opened the books next</p>
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		<title>By: Piano</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/on-chaos/#comment-42748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Piano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Link?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link?</p>
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