In reality I imagine a lot of HBD race realism is about justifying or supporting pre-existing emotional inclinations or feelings towards ethno-nationalism.[Reply]

I think that could be said for a lot of things. “Antiracism”, for instance, is basically ethnomasochist whites shilling for nonwhite nationalism (and of course, the nonwhite “antiracists” are just nationalists), and nonwhites utilize the “antiracism” as a way to advance their racial nationalism (when I say “nationalism” in this sense, I’m referring to them looking out for thier own group’s best interests).

I don’t think WN is necessarily statist (though, that depends on our definitions of “state”). I know of antistatist WNs (or close enough to WNs), and libertarianism itself is de facto WN (considering the supporters of libertarianism, I imagine a country full of libertarians would be mostly white).

Anyone here read Rothbard’s review of The Bell Curve? http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/ir/Ch75.html

Cathedralites think the only reason anyone would ever speak of racial hereditarianism is to justify some sort of oppression, but racial hereditarianism could just as easily be used as a defense against race hatred (“that group isn’t wildy successful because of any sort of oppression/exploitation”) and a defense of free market economics (Rothbard mentions this in his review). I mention this due to some of Mr. Warburton’s comments.

Something else to keep in mind: racial hereditarianism is a descriptiion, whereas WN is a prescription. Racial hereditarianism describes what is, whereas WN prescribes what ought to be.

“The deep structure of Western social authority is driven into a perpetual frenzy by the idea that anyone is thinking about race incorrectly — which matters particularly because thinking about it correctly is a logical impossibility — so how have we earned the luxury of yawns?”

Yes, even people who are otherwise smart can’t think when it comes to race. I suspect they have a meme implanted in their mind (rabid adherents of the Cathedral declare everyone a sponge and absorbent of “white supremacy”, “patriarchy”, and whatever this week’s system of oppression may be, yet I think it is they who are like a fish in water). I like to call these sort of Cathedral-implanted memes “mullmuzzlers” (“mull” = to think, so a mullmuzzler is a meme which restricts and stifles thought…I read about a band once with the name Mullmuzzler and thought that it made for a good name for this sort of meme). Mullmuzzlers are roadblocks of the mind. They prevent their hosts from advancing further from what might logically follow. You could also think of them as mental stop signs or “leaving city limits” signs (such as a city limits sign that says “LEAVING RESPECTABLE TERRITORY NOW” or “ENTERING RACIST TERRITORY NOW”) . Someone under the influence of a mullmuzzler would refuse to even entertain the heresy of racial hereditarianism because “THAT’S RACIST!”, and of course, “racists” are bad (and probably inbred, ugly, and a member of the right wing extremist Republican party, and you obviously don’t want to be any of [i]that[/i]..that’s not cool).

It does appear that many white liberals reveal a preference for segregation and for political control in the hands of white liberals.