I’m familiar with Jim’s writing on natural law and the writings he hosts on his site, like the essay by Lysander Spooner. I enjoy the writings on the site, both Jim’s and those that he hosts, and I’m actually a big fan of Spooner.

I hope you understand that everything I’ve argued is consistent with natural law. I’m not advocating a positive law view.

I still don’t understand what you or fotrkd are disputing.

The state appropriation of the idea of law is no less preposterous than that of money. In France, which tends to be advanced in such matters, the state is already well on the way to the pretense that it invented and sustains language.

There is a connection between law and money and the state. It’s not accurate to say that it’s simply a modern appropriation.

The French state arguably did invent and does sustain Standard French. Standard French did not develop organically. It’s very much the product of the highly centralized French state.

What exactly do you dispute?

Ownership of anything implies exclusive possession in a territory and that requires an expenditure of force. That exercise of force is either made directly by the individual owner who is sovereign over his territory and governs himself or who is authorized to directly exercise force by the government. Or it’s exercised by the government on behalf of the individual owner.

Government is a social construct of conquest.

Government is a social construct of Bandits [and their wives] who wanted to justify their predations.

Our government is a degenerate priesthood that assumed the role of banditry from the elected bandits.

But both bandits have lost sight of the bedrock of violence and the ability to wield the sword themselves.

Blessedly in America and perhaps elsewhere, ancient codes of duty and honor check the hands of the violent. Who spring nearly entirely not from the same lines as the priesthood, but common stock.

And their families are being stripped bare and they can see it.

Perhaps it’s time for a refresher of social constructs.

“There’s no ownership or possession without government..”

Actually Dax with our government there’s no ownership or possession.

Property Rights like all rights, Liberties is enforced primarily by violence. Before there was government people fought over food and water. Before there was a schoolyard boys fought. And so on.

Dax– government is a social construct of bandits and parasites. And their wives.

Government is a social construct which in America has reverted after a brief interlude of a couple of centuries to it’s natural state of banditry and parasitism. With it’s many, many, many wives; Aka Welfare whores, Baby Mama’s, or The Single Mom — earth mother of all crime and dysfunction. And the Democratic Party’s core voting constituency.
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In the right now sense Plutocrats are only important in terms of extracting money by force [taxes] or by extortion [campaign contributions or donations to Liberal Causes…same big pot of money], or as symbols to rally behind or against.

Admin is making a mistake and reaching for ghosts. The people you want Admin are Dead. And if they were alive their name would be Soros or Buffet. Bezos is Cathedral to core, he doesn’t you know make profit.

He buys things that may make profit and Amazon sells stuff.

Find.One. Who could for an instant withstand the Cathedral. Or would. When Musk has his space colonies, when Thiel has his own Navy that can fend off ours, when Galt’s Cloaking Device hides the Gulch [it required one] then we may speak of these patriarchs. What is needed of course are Nobles and we don’t presently have them nor are the Plutocrats even in consideration for running.
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ye have allies at hand . Too bad you can’t stand them.