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		<title>By: Captain Obvious</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-135232</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 03:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Outside Strategy begins to work, the Republicans could simply field a Mussolini or Restorationist who honestly intends to abolish democracy. The Democrats win the presidency and the Outside Strategy advances. On the off hand the candidate actually wins...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Outside Strategy begins to work, the Republicans could simply field a Mussolini or Restorationist who honestly intends to abolish democracy. The Democrats win the presidency and the Outside Strategy advances. On the off hand the candidate actually wins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Linkage and Fractured Thoughts &#124; The Legionnaire</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-135066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Linkage and Fractured Thoughts &#124; The Legionnaire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] the act of voting (though notably, TRS has a different take). Of particular note is Nick Land, who takes a quick moment to display the kind of evil cunning that American politics is sorely [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the act of voting (though notably, TRS has a different take). Of particular note is Nick Land, who takes a quick moment to display the kind of evil cunning that American politics is sorely [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: C. Y. Chen</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134627</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C. Y. Chen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2014 04:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure how much the Cathedral pays attention to turnout numbers/percentages, seeing as we don&#039;t use a system that factors that in.  Given the lack of alternatives that are pushed in the mainstream, they&#039;ll be satisfied with easy victories, so long as the boat isn&#039;t rocked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how much the Cathedral pays attention to turnout numbers/percentages, seeing as we don&#8217;t use a system that factors that in.  Given the lack of alternatives that are pushed in the mainstream, they&#8217;ll be satisfied with easy victories, so long as the boat isn&#8217;t rocked.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134298</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What would a &quot;political strategy ... to capture the judiciary and at least contain the bureaucracy&quot; even look like? Obviously it sounds good. Beyond contesting left-trending judicial appointments, adamantly, at every opportunity, and defunding anything FedGov does, also at every possible occasion, I&#039;m not seeing the opening (or from you even the bare outlines of a plan). 

Does the Sailer Strategy address this stuff? If so, I&#039;ve never noticed it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would a &#8220;political strategy &#8230; to capture the judiciary and at least contain the bureaucracy&#8221; even look like? Obviously it sounds good. Beyond contesting left-trending judicial appointments, adamantly, at every opportunity, and defunding anything FedGov does, also at every possible occasion, I&#8217;m not seeing the opening (or from you even the bare outlines of a plan). </p>
<p>Does the Sailer Strategy address this stuff? If so, I&#8217;ve never noticed it.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134293</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Gingrich House Republicans made the most fundamental error open from their position, as the Outsideness Strategy understands it: becoming deliberately conspicuous. Subterranean sabotage, not theatrical confrontation, is the key to making this work.

Softly-spoken GOP congressmen should be available to the media, when required, to say: &quot;We&#039;re doing our very best to work with the President, we understand his position is very difficult, and we sincerely want to help him out of the difficulties he&#039;s gotten himself into, even though he is a Liberal extremist of questionable competence.&quot; Then they get back to work, undermining, obstructing, and subverting whatever they can. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gingrich House Republicans made the most fundamental error open from their position, as the Outsideness Strategy understands it: becoming deliberately conspicuous. Subterranean sabotage, not theatrical confrontation, is the key to making this work.</p>
<p>Softly-spoken GOP congressmen should be available to the media, when required, to say: &#8220;We&#8217;re doing our very best to work with the President, we understand his position is very difficult, and we sincerely want to help him out of the difficulties he&#8217;s gotten himself into, even though he is a Liberal extremist of questionable competence.&#8221; Then they get back to work, undermining, obstructing, and subverting whatever they can. </p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134274</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesser Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[**These objections are all branches off the basic argument that any plausible political strategy has to bag the presidency, yes? — With the exception of the second half of #1.**

No, I think the basic argument is that any plausible political strategy has to capture the judiciary and at least contain the bureaucracy.  If the presidency doesn&#039;t have any real control over these gentry, than certainly Congress doesn&#039;t.  In other words, I think the proposition that the President can&#039;t do anything about them, but the Congress can, is an extremely dubious proposition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**These objections are all branches off the basic argument that any plausible political strategy has to bag the presidency, yes? — With the exception of the second half of #1.**</p>
<p>No, I think the basic argument is that any plausible political strategy has to capture the judiciary and at least contain the bureaucracy.  If the presidency doesn&#8217;t have any real control over these gentry, than certainly Congress doesn&#8217;t.  In other words, I think the proposition that the President can&#8217;t do anything about them, but the Congress can, is an extremely dubious proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesser Bull</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lesser Bull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and one more.  The voters generally blame the President, but that&#039;s not an iron-clad rule.  The GOP genuinely got torched in their struggle with Bill Clinton over the budget.  the public did blame the GOP for it, and if I recall the GOP did not do so well in the next election.  On any one issue, judicial appointments for instance, if the GOP pushes too hard, the public can be made to care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and one more.  The voters generally blame the President, but that&#8217;s not an iron-clad rule.  The GOP genuinely got torched in their struggle with Bill Clinton over the budget.  the public did blame the GOP for it, and if I recall the GOP did not do so well in the next election.  On any one issue, judicial appointments for instance, if the GOP pushes too hard, the public can be made to care.</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Admin,

That Dwarf you refer to is currently Ted Cruz.  All of the above, the appearance of Count Chocula or the Count of Sesame Street, also Harvard Lawyer and kept man of Goldman Sachs.   He&#039;s actually Mr. to Mrs. Goldman Sachs [Mrs. Cruz]. 

He will reliably bring up Israel into every security and foreign policy issue and then denounce as Anti-Christian [not Anti-Semite BTW] anyone who doesn&#039;t agree that for instance Americas Arctic Circle policy should have Israel as it&#039;s Keystone.  

He&#039;ll probably be the nominee.  He&#039;s eminently nominate-able and un-electable. 

Who won&#039;t is Chris Christie.  As an Honest pol who took on Unions in NJ [equivalent of I don&#039;t know Glasglow or Barcelona] and former Federal Prosecutor he can&#039;t be allowed near the $9T extraction business of DC.  No way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Admin,</p>
<p>That Dwarf you refer to is currently Ted Cruz.  All of the above, the appearance of Count Chocula or the Count of Sesame Street, also Harvard Lawyer and kept man of Goldman Sachs.   He&#8217;s actually Mr. to Mrs. Goldman Sachs [Mrs. Cruz]. </p>
<p>He will reliably bring up Israel into every security and foreign policy issue and then denounce as Anti-Christian [not Anti-Semite BTW] anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree that for instance Americas Arctic Circle policy should have Israel as it&#8217;s Keystone.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;ll probably be the nominee.  He&#8217;s eminently nominate-able and un-electable. </p>
<p>Who won&#8217;t is Chris Christie.  As an Honest pol who took on Unions in NJ [equivalent of I don&#8217;t know Glasglow or Barcelona] and former Federal Prosecutor he can&#8217;t be allowed near the $9T extraction business of DC.  No way.</p>
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		<title>By: vxxc2014</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134211</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 10:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But the Dems have already accomplished exactly what Mr. Land proposes. 

Phase Plunder well under way, see Housing/Finance/GSE/TARP/Bailout/QE. 

Like any Endemic warfare the outcome is pre-determined and the victims aren&#039;t felled by any actual combat but pre-arrangement. 

More?  Welfare in the USA is actually delivered by Finance -Goldman, JPMC et al deliver the benefits since Clinton - it&#039;s important that the EBT cards work.  They do, and Finance takes a cut.  They deliver it to among many others Walmart, Pathmark [true low end shopping here] and Best Buy Liquors - it&#039;s a chain of Liquor stores.  Not exactly the same as Best Buy electronics.  

More? Past years VA veterans waiting lists &quot;crisis&quot; was resolved by getting a new VA head, a gent named McDonald.  Who&#039;s chief claim to fame prior was he merged Proctor&amp;Gamble with TEVA* Pharma and shortly thereafter was kicked out by the Board.   The VA immediately saw it&#039;s Media stories go nothing but postive then disappear.  The VA will now be outsourced and service delivery will improve for veterans.  If there really was an unlimited amount of money that could be created from nothing this would all be to the good. 

*TEVA has already settled a fraud lawsuit for Medicare Fraud.  Fraud is so endemic to Medicare/Medicaid it&#039;s probably their number one accounting and actuary table at about 30% of the budget.  LIke all such firms when you get caught your lawyers plead guilty and you pay a fine, a pittance of the profits.   The govt gets a [phony] scalp, the prosecutor gets a notch in his gun and line on his resume he&#039;ll use to land a better job with the power lawyer firm he ends up working for [representing the firms he prosecuted].  Like our wars now the Law is Ritual Warfare, or Ritual Prosecutions.  No one actually goes down that matters, the ones that do get a payoff.  Like any Endemic warfare the outcome is pre-determined and the victims aren&#039;t felled by any actual combat but pre-arrangement. 

Look that&#039;s just a couple of examples.  The problem you have is you&#039;d be disturbing an multi-trilliion dollar ruthless extractive enterprise already up and running smoother all the time, it&#039;s chief problem is it requires unlimited money in the form of Fiat, Zero Interest rate monetization of ever increasing debts and on the private side about $500T at any one time in Derivatives Interest rate REPO [that&#039;s what US Corporations have running in the Interest rates derivatives market, source DTCC]. 

Now perhaps Admin is getting at the GOP takes over these rackets effective Tuesday past, and to an extent yes.   

The GOP has no motive to disturb a functioning business of Trillions per year that is their very lives and livelihood, and the Dems already took care of business.

[yes I realize I may be playing a role of the child and the naked Emperor, but duty will always call you know.]

Look this is a great scam. But the problem is it requires endless and increasing money creation from thin air.  Fiat, printing, Central bank MEFO/QE/BOJ 100% bond purchasing and so on.  It means that the Laws of gravity regarding money are exorcised and banished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the Dems have already accomplished exactly what Mr. Land proposes. </p>
<p>Phase Plunder well under way, see Housing/Finance/GSE/TARP/Bailout/QE. </p>
<p>Like any Endemic warfare the outcome is pre-determined and the victims aren&#8217;t felled by any actual combat but pre-arrangement. </p>
<p>More?  Welfare in the USA is actually delivered by Finance -Goldman, JPMC et al deliver the benefits since Clinton &#8211; it&#8217;s important that the EBT cards work.  They do, and Finance takes a cut.  They deliver it to among many others Walmart, Pathmark [true low end shopping here] and Best Buy Liquors &#8211; it&#8217;s a chain of Liquor stores.  Not exactly the same as Best Buy electronics.  </p>
<p>More? Past years VA veterans waiting lists &#8220;crisis&#8221; was resolved by getting a new VA head, a gent named McDonald.  Who&#8217;s chief claim to fame prior was he merged Proctor&amp;Gamble with TEVA* Pharma and shortly thereafter was kicked out by the Board.   The VA immediately saw it&#8217;s Media stories go nothing but postive then disappear.  The VA will now be outsourced and service delivery will improve for veterans.  If there really was an unlimited amount of money that could be created from nothing this would all be to the good. </p>
<p>*TEVA has already settled a fraud lawsuit for Medicare Fraud.  Fraud is so endemic to Medicare/Medicaid it&#8217;s probably their number one accounting and actuary table at about 30% of the budget.  LIke all such firms when you get caught your lawyers plead guilty and you pay a fine, a pittance of the profits.   The govt gets a [phony] scalp, the prosecutor gets a notch in his gun and line on his resume he&#8217;ll use to land a better job with the power lawyer firm he ends up working for [representing the firms he prosecuted].  Like our wars now the Law is Ritual Warfare, or Ritual Prosecutions.  No one actually goes down that matters, the ones that do get a payoff.  Like any Endemic warfare the outcome is pre-determined and the victims aren&#8217;t felled by any actual combat but pre-arrangement. </p>
<p>Look that&#8217;s just a couple of examples.  The problem you have is you&#8217;d be disturbing an multi-trilliion dollar ruthless extractive enterprise already up and running smoother all the time, it&#8217;s chief problem is it requires unlimited money in the form of Fiat, Zero Interest rate monetization of ever increasing debts and on the private side about $500T at any one time in Derivatives Interest rate REPO [that&#8217;s what US Corporations have running in the Interest rates derivatives market, source DTCC]. </p>
<p>Now perhaps Admin is getting at the GOP takes over these rackets effective Tuesday past, and to an extent yes.   </p>
<p>The GOP has no motive to disturb a functioning business of Trillions per year that is their very lives and livelihood, and the Dems already took care of business.</p>
<p>[yes I realize I may be playing a role of the child and the naked Emperor, but duty will always call you know.]</p>
<p>Look this is a great scam. But the problem is it requires endless and increasing money creation from thin air.  Fiat, printing, Central bank MEFO/QE/BOJ 100% bond purchasing and so on.  It means that the Laws of gravity regarding money are exorcised and banished.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/popcorn-activism/#comment-134142</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 06:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These objections are all branches off the basic argument that &lt;em&gt;any plausible political strategy has to bag the presidency&lt;/em&gt;, yes? -- With the exception of the second half of #1. 

I agree that losing the presidency, reliably, is difficult. That&#039;s why it requires concerted (though surreptitious) tactical attention. The GOP already has a fairly impressive skill-set in this regard. Draw up a secret table of electorally-repulsive but credible characteristics (a hellfire-Christian plutocrat dwarf makes a sound candidate), and then surround the election bandwagon with a theater of seriousness. I&#039;m sure the Roves of the world can do this stuff. 

Does a Democrat president advantage the party in congressional and state-wide races? That seems far less of a problem. The whole strategy is based on the weakness of this assumption. If the Presidency is weakened, sytematically undermined by a hostile congress, and subjected to consistent multi-dimensional sabotage, it&#039;s hard to see it accumulating a heap of spare political capital to dish out.

Which leaves he rest of the argument, which seems to presume that the Presidency is needed for leverage against the bureaucracy, judiciary, etc. 
(1) Judicial appointments require congressional approval, no? This would obviously be the front line of the struggle. I don&#039;t see why it&#039;s intrinsically unwinnable.
(2) Is there any evidence at all that the Presidency provides a platform for attacking the permanent bureaucracy? I&#039;m not seeing it. Steadily bankrupting the central government seems the only way forward here, but there&#039;s an argument to be had, for sure.
(3) Most important point though, from my PoV, is that winning the Presidency inevitably perpetuates the system. For the Sailer Strategy, that&#039;s feature, not bug. Clearly, I&#039;m unable to follow him down that road.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These objections are all branches off the basic argument that <em>any plausible political strategy has to bag the presidency</em>, yes? &#8212; With the exception of the second half of #1. </p>
<p>I agree that losing the presidency, reliably, is difficult. That&#8217;s why it requires concerted (though surreptitious) tactical attention. The GOP already has a fairly impressive skill-set in this regard. Draw up a secret table of electorally-repulsive but credible characteristics (a hellfire-Christian plutocrat dwarf makes a sound candidate), and then surround the election bandwagon with a theater of seriousness. I&#8217;m sure the Roves of the world can do this stuff. </p>
<p>Does a Democrat president advantage the party in congressional and state-wide races? That seems far less of a problem. The whole strategy is based on the weakness of this assumption. If the Presidency is weakened, sytematically undermined by a hostile congress, and subjected to consistent multi-dimensional sabotage, it&#8217;s hard to see it accumulating a heap of spare political capital to dish out.</p>
<p>Which leaves he rest of the argument, which seems to presume that the Presidency is needed for leverage against the bureaucracy, judiciary, etc.<br />
(1) Judicial appointments require congressional approval, no? This would obviously be the front line of the struggle. I don&#8217;t see why it&#8217;s intrinsically unwinnable.<br />
(2) Is there any evidence at all that the Presidency provides a platform for attacking the permanent bureaucracy? I&#8217;m not seeing it. Steadily bankrupting the central government seems the only way forward here, but there&#8217;s an argument to be had, for sure.<br />
(3) Most important point though, from my PoV, is that winning the Presidency inevitably perpetuates the system. For the Sailer Strategy, that&#8217;s feature, not bug. Clearly, I&#8217;m unable to follow him down that road.</p>
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