Quote note (#124)

Spandrell (here) reproduced in response to overwhelming demand:

I find interesting that when one sees Erasmus or Servetus, it’s clear that the growth of classical knowledge and the advancement of science had created a situation in which large parts of the intelligentsia in Europe had realized that Christianity was bogus.

They probably thought that rationality would prevail and that the Church would lose its power to science or something. But what happened is that screaming demagogues came out of nowhere in droves and soon dominated the ideological vacuum that incipient science had created. And what they sold was not rationality or heliocentrism, but something 10 times wackier and more violent than the Roman Church had ever been.

Fast forward to the late 18th century, and the further advances of science and history produce a new cohort of intellectuals convinced that Christianity, this time in 2 flavors is bogus. They probably thought that rationality would prevail …

but something 10 times wackier and more violent than the Puritans had ever been appeared, and won. We call it progressivism.

Fast forward to the early 21st century, and a small group of aspiring intellectuals are starting to notice that Progressivism is bogus. They probably thought …

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    They couldn’t stand still, or know how things will turn out and neither can we.

    It’s a brilliant comment.

    It’s not a plan or course.

    It’s a well taken caution.


    Posted on October 30th, 2014 at 1:14 am Reply | Quote
  • R7 Rocket Says:

    …but something 10 times wackier and more violent than the Progressives have ever been, appeared, and won. We call it The Cult of the Universe-eating Von Neumann Machine-God…


    Aeroguy Reply:

    At least the cult of Pythia never advertised itself as anything but a death cult. Unless we sell FAI utopia to the uninitiated, in which case I never thought evil could feel this good.


    Posted on October 30th, 2014 at 2:11 am Reply | Quote
  • Bryce Laliberte Says:

    Spandrell is always a downer. Gets hard to take him seriously after a point.


    Nyan Sandwich Reply:

    He’s right on this. Konk and I have been worrying about this for a while.


    Bryce Laliberte Reply:

    Butlerian Jihad it is, then.


    Posted on October 30th, 2014 at 3:14 am Reply | Quote
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  • John Says:

    Whatever the next iteration is I’ll bet it’s heavy on trannies, transhuman trannies…


    E. Antony Gray (@RiverC) Reply:

    Machine-plant gods mostly


    Posted on October 30th, 2014 at 1:13 pm Reply | Quote
  • Izak Says:

    The word “violent” is surely metaphorical, right?

    It strikes me as odd that violence would be the basis for cosmic fear (or whatever) in the 21st century when violence is steadily declining and has been for centuries before.

    Other than that, it’s a nice quote. Fun to think about.


    spandrell Reply:

    Pinker made it sound like we’ve evolved our nastiness away, but there’s no good evidence to claim that we may not bounce back into nasty bastards again. The Cheka was plenty nasty and it wasn’t that long ago.

    Given present day armaments and our population levels, a nasty psychopath with an army in case of total breakdown of world order may very well make Zhang Xianzhong look like Gandhi.


    VXXC Reply:

    Pinker take into account nukes save lives, Pax Americana, Bretton Woods at least until 1971, NATO and any number of things the Left and the New Right [formerly and raised Left until Prophet Moldbug] discount with the fervor of the new Iconoclast? Fall of the USSR post 1989 levels of violence?

    We’re going. When we go, his post 1945 statistical fluke goes. Along with all our other statistical flukes, sometimes known as exceptionalism.

    As for our putative newly schooled non-violent tendencies to the extent that’s true it’s the ultimate fluke, the freaks won’t survive. BTW the SWPL is an exclusively 90’s forward phenomenon.

    Yeah pass the popcorn, you and Gawker. Buttered with your own melting fat. Yep. Salted with tears.

    [HEH HEH. I’ve been searching for months on that popcorn snark. BWAAHH]


    Posted on October 30th, 2014 at 5:57 pm Reply | Quote
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