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		<title>By: Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/11/19 &#124; Free Northerner</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-140149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lightning Round &#8211; 2014/11/19 &#124; Free Northerner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2014 06:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] A new East India corporation. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] A new East India corporation. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133530</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 00:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;  Accelerated cultural decadence, decay from within, and (eventual) collapse.

No doubt. I see these things as a precursor to the above mentioned resurgence. The cycle requires death and decay as a prerequisite for re-birth and rejuvenation.

I think in hindsight it will be quite clear that in the year 2014 we were already in full fledged collapse. We haven&#039;t hit bottom yet, but we&#039;re accelerating towards it at breakneck speed.

Once the progs run the West into the ground, they won&#039;t be there to stand in the way of capable people who want to rebuild.

What emerges from that I expect will be yet another mutated hyper-virulent strain of leftism with a techno-commercial bent. The thing to keep in mind is that Capitalism (the Lovecraftian god version) demands leftism in one form or another. How else to generate an ever expanding consumer base in the face of ever more efficient technology? At least until the machines start spending...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;  Accelerated cultural decadence, decay from within, and (eventual) collapse.</p>
<p>No doubt. I see these things as a precursor to the above mentioned resurgence. The cycle requires death and decay as a prerequisite for re-birth and rejuvenation.</p>
<p>I think in hindsight it will be quite clear that in the year 2014 we were already in full fledged collapse. We haven&#8217;t hit bottom yet, but we&#8217;re accelerating towards it at breakneck speed.</p>
<p>Once the progs run the West into the ground, they won&#8217;t be there to stand in the way of capable people who want to rebuild.</p>
<p>What emerges from that I expect will be yet another mutated hyper-virulent strain of leftism with a techno-commercial bent. The thing to keep in mind is that Capitalism (the Lovecraftian god version) demands leftism in one form or another. How else to generate an ever expanding consumer base in the face of ever more efficient technology? At least until the machines start spending&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erebus</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erebus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 17:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with the points you&#039;re trying to make, and I hope you&#039;re correct.  I cannot help but feel, however, that you&#039;re being a bit &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; optimistic.  What you predict is a resurgence of ability and purpose: The scales will drop from people&#039;s eyes, prog policies will be cast aside, and the peoples of the West will become dominant once again.  I&#039;ll grant that it&#039;s possible.  Yet what seems to be playing out in Europe -- and what has been the historic fate of nations and empires in comparable situations -- would suggest the opposite: Accelerated cultural decadence, decay from within, and (eventual) collapse.  

...Time will tell, I suppose.   Again, I hope you&#039;re right!

China is an interesting case.  Needless to say, as our host rightfully pointed out, Mai La Dreapta is correct.  I look forward to seeing how it all plays out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the points you&#8217;re trying to make, and I hope you&#8217;re correct.  I cannot help but feel, however, that you&#8217;re being a bit <i>too</i> optimistic.  What you predict is a resurgence of ability and purpose: The scales will drop from people&#8217;s eyes, prog policies will be cast aside, and the peoples of the West will become dominant once again.  I&#8217;ll grant that it&#8217;s possible.  Yet what seems to be playing out in Europe &#8212; and what has been the historic fate of nations and empires in comparable situations &#8212; would suggest the opposite: Accelerated cultural decadence, decay from within, and (eventual) collapse.  </p>
<p>&#8230;Time will tell, I suppose.   Again, I hope you&#8217;re right!</p>
<p>China is an interesting case.  Needless to say, as our host rightfully pointed out, Mai La Dreapta is correct.  I look forward to seeing how it all plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133359</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; “White” countries are rotting from the inside out.

This is because of prog hegemony and the importation of low quality peoplesl, not the degradation of white capabilities.

&gt; The USA can’t maintain a stable and sensible foreign policy for longer than an election cycle.

Again, prog policies. Not the result of an actual deficit in capability.

&gt; “Colonialism” as a concept is unthinkable to most — they’ve been trained to instinctively associate it with the oppression of underprivileged noble savages. No matter how it’s dressed up, “that’s racist.”

At the moment, yes, but a century ago, the opposite would have been unthinkable. You over estimate the grip of prog values on the collective mind. It grows ever more tenuous and will degrade rapidly once the common folk see that a growing segment of the cognitive uber-elite (NRx) call prog beliefs out as utter horse shit.

People ARE racist by default and will jump at the opportunity to embrace the instincts they&#039;ve been shamed into repressing for so long, especially if said program is disguised in pseudo-prog speak &quot;We colonize to save the peoples of the third world&quot;, which would conveniently also be true.

I agree the operative word must be something other than &quot;colonize&quot;.

&gt; nation-states dissolving 

This is already well underway.

&gt; being replaced by opt-in corporations

Where does one sign up with such an organization?

As others have mentioned, if the Chinese are successful in this, we will see Western strategies quickly change. While the dogmas of leftism deny the glory of Gnon, leftism itself has risen on the wings of Gnon. The current morbidity is temporary. NRx functions as a culling agent for leftist memes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; “White” countries are rotting from the inside out.</p>
<p>This is because of prog hegemony and the importation of low quality peoplesl, not the degradation of white capabilities.</p>
<p>&gt; The USA can’t maintain a stable and sensible foreign policy for longer than an election cycle.</p>
<p>Again, prog policies. Not the result of an actual deficit in capability.</p>
<p>&gt; “Colonialism” as a concept is unthinkable to most — they’ve been trained to instinctively associate it with the oppression of underprivileged noble savages. No matter how it’s dressed up, “that’s racist.”</p>
<p>At the moment, yes, but a century ago, the opposite would have been unthinkable. You over estimate the grip of prog values on the collective mind. It grows ever more tenuous and will degrade rapidly once the common folk see that a growing segment of the cognitive uber-elite (NRx) call prog beliefs out as utter horse shit.</p>
<p>People ARE racist by default and will jump at the opportunity to embrace the instincts they&#8217;ve been shamed into repressing for so long, especially if said program is disguised in pseudo-prog speak &#8220;We colonize to save the peoples of the third world&#8221;, which would conveniently also be true.</p>
<p>I agree the operative word must be something other than &#8220;colonize&#8221;.</p>
<p>&gt; nation-states dissolving </p>
<p>This is already well underway.</p>
<p>&gt; being replaced by opt-in corporations</p>
<p>Where does one sign up with such an organization?</p>
<p>As others have mentioned, if the Chinese are successful in this, we will see Western strategies quickly change. While the dogmas of leftism deny the glory of Gnon, leftism itself has risen on the wings of Gnon. The current morbidity is temporary. NRx functions as a culling agent for leftist memes.</p>
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		<title>By: NRx_N00B</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133347</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding Chinese commercial colonization of the West: Progressive education has thoroughly neutered/predigested “whitey” and will make him that much more pliable and easier to devour. Grit yer’ teeth and bend over boys and girls...

“38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
—Matthew 5:38–5:42 KJV”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Chinese commercial colonization of the West: Progressive education has thoroughly neutered/predigested “whitey” and will make him that much more pliable and easier to devour. Grit yer’ teeth and bend over boys and girls&#8230;</p>
<p>“38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:<br />
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.<br />
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.<br />
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.<br />
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.<br />
—Matthew 5:38–5:42 KJV”</p>
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		<title>By: NRx_N00B</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133339</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mai La Dreapta Said: “I wouldn’t be surprised if China undertook some form of commercial colonization, to vastly greater success than anyone in the West.”

It’s already happening, even in the West. Throwing Han ethnocentrism/clannishness into the mix will make things all that much more interesting. “White” is the new “Black” and “Yellow” is the new “White”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mai La Dreapta Said: “I wouldn’t be surprised if China undertook some form of commercial colonization, to vastly greater success than anyone in the West.”</p>
<p>It’s already happening, even in the West. Throwing Han ethnocentrism/clannishness into the mix will make things all that much more interesting. “White” is the new “Black” and “Yellow” is the new “White”.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133333</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, but there&#039;s also the China factor (see Mai La Dreapta further down).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but there&#8217;s also the China factor (see Mai La Dreapta further down).</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133331</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 14:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed yes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mai La Dreapta</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133319</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mai La Dreapta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 13:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China is the hope of the third world. China is blessed with both untrammeled greed and the total lack of conscience needed for true colonizing, and I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if China undertook some form of commercial colonization, to vastly greater success than anyone in the West. Indeed, they&#039;re already doing it in Africa.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is the hope of the third world. China is blessed with both untrammeled greed and the total lack of conscience needed for true colonizing, and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if China undertook some form of commercial colonization, to vastly greater success than anyone in the West. Indeed, they&#8217;re already doing it in Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Erebus</title>
		<link>http://www.xenosystems.net/quote-note-127/#comment-133301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erebus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;White&quot; countries are rotting from the inside out.  The USA can&#039;t maintain a stable and sensible foreign policy for longer than an election cycle.  &quot;Colonialism&quot; as a concept is unthinkable to most -- they&#039;ve been trained to instinctively associate it with the oppression of underprivileged noble savages.  No matter how it&#039;s dressed up, &quot;that&#039;s racist.&quot;

...A new East India company may be what the third-world needs, but it&#039;s not what it&#039;s going to get.  What it&#039;s going to get is almost certainly going to be much, much worse.  

I&#039;d argue that what&#039;s needed is actually not a new East India Company, for both the Dutch and the British East India companies were beholden to some extent to the governments they served.  Modern governments, chock full &#039;o incompetent and small-minded administrators, will render colonial enterprises ineffectual.  What&#039;s needed is rather the old Cyberpunk trope of &lt;i&gt;nation-states dissolving and being replaced&lt;/i&gt; by opt-in corporations.  Corporations unrestrained by nation-states might be able to accomplish great things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;White&#8221; countries are rotting from the inside out.  The USA can&#8217;t maintain a stable and sensible foreign policy for longer than an election cycle.  &#8220;Colonialism&#8221; as a concept is unthinkable to most &#8212; they&#8217;ve been trained to instinctively associate it with the oppression of underprivileged noble savages.  No matter how it&#8217;s dressed up, &#8220;that&#8217;s racist.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;A new East India company may be what the third-world needs, but it&#8217;s not what it&#8217;s going to get.  What it&#8217;s going to get is almost certainly going to be much, much worse.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue that what&#8217;s needed is actually not a new East India Company, for both the Dutch and the British East India companies were beholden to some extent to the governments they served.  Modern governments, chock full &#8216;o incompetent and small-minded administrators, will render colonial enterprises ineffectual.  What&#8217;s needed is rather the old Cyberpunk trope of <i>nation-states dissolving and being replaced</i> by opt-in corporations.  Corporations unrestrained by nation-states might be able to accomplish great things.</p>
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