Quote note (#157)

From Cixin Liu’s (utterly magnificent) The Three-Body Problem (p.317):

The most surprising aspect of the Earth-Trisolaris Movement was that so many people had abandoned all hope in human civilization, hated and were willing to betray their own species, and even cherished as their highest ideal the elimination of the entire human race, including themselves and their children. […] The ETO was called an organization of spiritual nobles, Most members came from the highly educated classes, and many were elites of the political and financial spheres. The ETO had once tried to develop membership among the common people, but these efforts had all failed. The ETO concluded that the common people did not seem to have the comprehensive and deep understanding of the highly educated about the dark side of humanity. More importantly, because their thoughts were not as deeply influenced by modern science and philosophy, they still felt an overwhelming, instinctual identification with their own species. To betray the human race as a whole was unimaginable for them. …

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  • Quote note (#157) | Neoreactive Says:

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    The Highly Educated have become merely Highly Defective.

    The American Campus is a catalogue of sins in everyone’s book especially their own, they’re preaching Socialism and Social Justice whilst practicing economic Fascism. You have to go to them and you have to pay their grossly inflated fees at every step.

    They’re also running Dens of Vice for Children that would make the Proprietors of Deadwood blush with shame.

    For all this besides the partying and hook ups one gets a shingle and every escalating debt slavery.

    When they get into government or any position of leadership systemic and pervasive looting continues – having been underway now for 20 some years full tilt.

    These are the Highly educated in the year 2015 CE.

    They have no problem betraying anyone, everyone and everything and would have no trouble betraying the Human Species given the opportunity.

    Rather like the Clintons selling their souls to the Devil for worldly success: Does anyone doubt that if that can be done that the Clinton’s would do so instantly?

    These are the Highly Educated that now dream of being an invincible Master Class. Simply more madness and pointing the way for the Commoners-that is to say the Sane-pointing out that we have no choice regarding the Elites.

    As to who’s in charge after: The Victors. I doubt if they’ll be brandishing Ivy League Credentials.

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    Puzzle Privateer (@PuzzlePrivateer) Reply:

    Did you see Interstellar? Matthew McConaughey’s character is what an intellectual should be: smart, educated, shows humanity and grounded in reality. Matt Damon’s character & Anne Hathaway’s are close to the opposite: smart, educated, cowardly, selfish, value ideas more than the facts in front of them. Although Hathaway did seem to humanize the longer the film went on.

    So how to create more Matthew McConaughey’s “Cooper”?

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  • Alex Says:

    Sci-fi soumission.

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  • Hegemonizing Swarm Says:

    Intriguing, I’ve put it on my list of books to read.

    > … including themselves and their children

    That part comes across as unrealistically altruistic.

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    Lesser Bull Reply:

    Unless, of course, they didn’t mean it.

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    Hegemonizing Swarm Reply:

    Yes, that thought popped into my head too.

    (In)voluntary Human Extinction alike, the idea is always “you first.”

    Or, through some freak accident a nihilistic meme became virulent, that nothing in the universe is inherently compelling and it might as well end here. Quoting from Thomas Ligotti’s The Conspiracy Against the Human Race:

    “Also worthy of mention is a clique among the suicidal for whom the meaning of their act is a darker thing. Frustrated as perpetrators of an all-inclusive extermination, they would kill themselves only because killing it all is closed off to them. They hate having been delivered into a world only to be told, by and by, “This way to the abattoir, Ladies and Gentlemen.” They despise the conspiracy of Lies for Life almost as much as they despise themselves for being a party to it. If they could unmake the world by pushing a button, they would do so without a second thought. There is no satisfaction in a lonesome suicide. The phenomenon of “suicide euphoria” aside, there is only fear, bitterness, or depression beforehand, then the troublesomeness of the method, and nothingness afterward. But to push that button, to depopulate this earth and arrest its rotation as well—what satisfaction, as of a job prettily done. This would be for the good of all, for even those who know nothing about the conspiracy against the human race are among its injured parties.”

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    ivvenalis Reply:

    In reality, they would have no children to betray. I’m still going to check this out.

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  • Athrelon Says:

    Compare: “The most surprising aspect of the Neoreactionary Movement was that so many people had abandoned all hope in their civilization, hated and were willing to betray their own countries, and even cherished as their highest ideal the elimination of the entire political establishment…The Neoreactionaries had once tried to develop membership among the common conservatives, but these efforts had all failed. They concluded that the common people did not seem to have the comprehensive and deep understanding of the highly educated about the dark side of humanity. More importantly, because their thoughts were not as deeply influenced by modern science and philosophy, they still felt an overwhelming, instinctual identification with their own country….”

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    Chatwin Reply:

    OK I’ve compared it. And?

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  • Erebus Says:

    Definitely one of the better sci-fi novels of the past year. The fact that much of the action took place in an immersive virtual reality simulation actually reminded me of your Phyl-Undhu — especially as one could draw certain parallels, in atmosphere if nothing else, between the two simulations themselves.

    I thought that the ending to The Three-Body Problem was interesting. I still don’t know what to make of it. I don’t know if I agree with the implication that all meaningful advances in science are due to advances in particle physics (the “deep structure of matter”, as they put it) — but, then again, I suppose there’s some truth to it…

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  • spandrell Says:

    Swell, at least some good Chinese fiction to read. Much appreciated.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    Children and self are an extension of ancestors, thus genetic interests. Wouldn’t consider that altruism if an action by those whose children they are.

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  • gervais Says:

    What about pre or non human ancestors? People have those ancestors as well.

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    Exfernal Reply:

    Consider the degree of separation.

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  • Hattori Says:

    I started on this book some days ago and got to the part where they build a functioning computer inside the video game using 30 million soldiers (NPCs I assume).

    People have actually doing that with the game minecraft.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/virtual-computers-built-inside-minecraft-2015-2?op=1

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