Quote note (#261)

Brexit in context:

As soon as the focus returns to why the UK bailed in the first place the proper sympathy will shift from the poor Britons in a flimsy rowboat to Europeans still trapped on the Titanic. […] As Ross Douthat observed in Twitter: “the actual disaster isn’t the vote, it’s the eight years of policy that made it thinkable.” Brexit is not the disaster. The disaster is what they’re rowing from.

This (from the same Fernandez piece) also stands out:

Brexit, for all its drama, was merely a warning. The basic demand is for a moderation of the centralizing tendencies, unchecked immigration, runaway political correctness and metastatic government that have characterized the West in these last decades. That’s the bottom line.

Douthat’s follow up tweet was my favorite in the series.

ADDED: Classic comedy elsewhere on PJM: “In 2005, Mark Leonard published a book called Why Europe Will Run the 21st Century.”

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    In other words, the Great Leftist Progress Project has turned into the dark side of human control yet again, and people want out.

    Brexit was just the string being pulled on the petty tyrants from Brussels. Now watch the rest pull out and the tent collapse.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I hope the Commucrats get fucking exiled to islands like Napoleon & this leftist garbage is vomited into the sea so that Burgundy can get back to being the best part of Europe again. Brussels EU is a great, blood-sucking tick on the mighty Lion of Lotharingia.

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    Posted on June 25th, 2016 at 1:33 pm Reply | Quote
  • Eldrick Says:

    Eagerly awaiting assessment of Brexit’s impact on Reality Compensation.

    Conflicting signals abound.

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    Posted on June 25th, 2016 at 2:01 pm Reply | Quote
  • Barnabas Says:

    Dugin on Brexit. http://katehon.com/article/brexit-europe-falling-abyss

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Dugin wants to extend the Russian sovereignty to USSR ends, that Francis Parker Yockey shit he and Richard Spencer spin is so fucking gay and retarded, they’re just racist EU fanatics.

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    Posted on June 25th, 2016 at 2:20 pm Reply | Quote
  • grey enlightenment Says:

    why the EU was created https://www.quora.com/Why-was-the-EU-formed-Was-it-more-of-a-political-project-or-an-economic-project

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    holipopiloh Reply:

    That’s smoke and mirrors. The EU was created to breed the last men.

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  • Erebus Says:

    From the Fernandez piece:

    >”Jean Claude Juncker went so far as to assure the press the EU was not headed for the boneyard.
    >Juncker insisted that the Brexit would not be the beginning of the end for the bloc.
    Responding to a question from a reporter about whether it was the end, Mr Juncker replied quietly, “No.” He then turned and walked out of the news conference to applause from EU officials in the room.”

    Fernandez is absolutely right in his bottom line, that “Brexit, for all its drama, was merely a warning. The basic demand is for a moderation of the centralizing tendencies, unchecked immigration, runaway political correctness and metastatic government that have characterized the West in these last decades.” … And, just a couple of months ago, Juncker himself admitted as much!

    >”We were wrong to over-regulate and interfere too much in the lives of our citizens,” [Juncker] said.
    >”It is true we’re not very popular when we advocate for Europe. We’re no longer respected in our countries when we emphasise the need to give priority to the European Union.”

    The trouble is that those petty tyrants in Brussels can’t help themselves. They can’t help but push absurd and patronizing laws which insult the dignity of “their” citizenry; can’t help but import millions of third-world subhumans on flimsy to non-existent pretexts; can’t help but attempt to dictate and micromanage economic policy. I’d bet that Juncker is not at all surprised that the British voted the way they did — and knows that so many others, from Italy to Holland to Greece, would gladly do the same should they be granted the opportunity. (David Cameron, for all of his faults, has to be commended for calling the vote.) Juncker knows that the end is near. His “no” rings hollow.

    …The EU is, if nothing else, a particularly good example of the Iron Law of Bureaucracy. With things as they are right now, it doesn’t stand a chance. Europeans need to get ready for its gradual disintegration over the coming decade.

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  • Alrenous Says:

    Will Britain be allowed to meaningfully leave, though? E.g. will EU ‘refugees’ be stopped at the border? Will their parliament roll back EU dictates?

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    If not I hope they have an extremely violent civil vvar, since their population clearly needs purging on a genetic lvel.

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  • Asher Says:

    https://www.amazon.com/United-States-Europe-Superpower-Supremacy/dp/0143036084/ref=pd_bxgy_14_img_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=432N5V11FG44PTQND5GT

    additional fun

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  • S.C. Hickman Says:

    I love it. The Cathedral is neither Left nor Right, but rather its own stupidity using both Left and Right against each other in a bid for command and control, conquer and divide. Problem is as admin (Land) has been iterating over and over the space ship never existed, it was all stage craft, a illogical lie that has been attributed to every ghost available. What we’re seeing now is the failure of their hyperstitional matrix: the closure of the Cathedral into collapsing digressions, the punctured vessel has no stop-gaps, the global vision is cracking and sinking into its own myth-craft, and as you’ve suspected all along the reaction is rising to finish the corpse off, everywhere. But don’t get too overconfident and assume it doesn’t still have a violent alternative in the offing: it want let its hold on the planet go down so easily. Stay tuned, the best or worst is coming. They’ll throw us a loop, short-circuit the revolution with a fabricated war that will bleed the world… So think through your options carefully, you have Intelligence against all those idiot sons of voluntarism (volunte) to battle. Will you win? How smart are you, that is the real question? Intelligence must make its move…

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    Grif Rutledge Reply:

    Pray to Gnon that the burning fire shines a light onto a path out of hell.

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    Ahote Reply:

    Cathedral isn’t Left-wing? Next you’ll tell us Lev Davidovich Bronstein and Mao Tse-tung weren’t Left-wing.

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    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    Mao? He was just a psychopathic serial killer who found the perfect job. And, Lev? Who gives a fuck… The Cathedral… I see it has you snookered!

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    Ahote Reply:

    >He was just a psychopathic serial killer who found the perfect job.

    Of course, psychopathic serial killing is the raw essence of the Left, for only in death are all equal. Heat death of the Universe would be the ultimate victory of the Left… the Cosmic Communism!

    S.C. Hickman Reply:

    You don’t know the half of it, ever hear of Nikolai Federov? Mao’s world was wrapped up in it…

    …Mao’s speculations closely echo the so-called “bio-cosmism,” the strange combination of vulgar materialism and Gnostic spirituality which formed occult shadow-ideology, the obscene secret teaching, of the Soviet Marxism. Repressed out of the public sight in the central period of the Soviet state, bio-cosmism was openly propagated only in the first and in the last two decades of the Soviet rule; its main theses are: the goals of religion (collective paradise, overcoming of all suffering, full individual immortality, resurrection of the dead, victory over time and death, conquest of space far beyond the solar system) can be realized in terrestrial life through the development of modern science and technology. In the future, not only will sexual difference be abolished, with the rise of chaste post-humans reproducing themselves through direct bio-technical reproduction; it will also be possible to resurrect all the dead of the past (establishing their biological formula through their remains and then re-engendering them – at that time, DNA was not yet known…), thus even erasing all past injustices, “undoing” past suffering and destruction. In this bright bio-political Communist future, not only humans, but also animals, all living being, will participate in a directly collectivized Reason of the cosmos… Whatever one can hold against Lenin’s ruthless critique of Maxim Gorky’s the “construction of God (bogograditelk’stvo),” the direct deification of man, one should bear in mind that Gorky himself collaborated with bio-cosmists. It is interesting to note resemblances between this “bio-cosmism” and today’s techno-gnosis. – Second, this “cosmic perspective” is for Mao not just an irrelevant philosophical caveat; it has precise ethico-political consequences. When Mao high-handedly dismisses the threat of the atomic bomb, he is not down-playing the scope of the danger – he is fully aware that nuclear war may led to the extinction of humanity as such, so, to justify his defiance, he has to adopt the “cosmic perspective” from which the end of life on Earth “would hardly mean anything to the universe as a whole”:

    The United States cannot annihilate the Chinese nation with its small stack of atom bombs. Even if the U.S. atom bombs were so powerful that, when dropped on China, they would make a hole right through the earth, or even blow it up, that would hardly mean anything to the universe as a whole, though it might be a major event for the solar system.

    http://www.lacan.com/zizmaozedong.htm

    Krietzsche Reply:

    Mao was a Skynet agent.

    ‘One thing destroys another, things emerge, develop, and are destroyed, everywhere is like this. If things are not destroyed by others, then they destroy themselves. Mankind will also finally meet its doom. We say the end of mankind is something which will produce something more advanced than mankind.’

    Krietzsche Reply:

    I am a Leftist. All Leftists are liars. Am I a Leftist ?

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    The Cathedral is leftist but left/right are artifacts of popular government. I’ve heard Glenn Beck types try to apply left/right to other governments, they end up calling Frederick Barbarossa a leftist – these terms can be applied ONLY to a system in vvhich the underclass is permitted voice & elites can game it. Every leader is a rightist, racist, elitist propertarian outside that paradigm.

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    Krietzsche Reply:

    krietzsche@dead.god

    Cathedral is a liberal project. In other words, it’s about property, not about properties (left and right). How put property under Locke und crypto key, save it from the grabbing hands. But, you need these hands to run your factory, Mr. Liberty Property. So, Mr. Property, you have a problem …

    (Mr. Hitler can solve it for you, whispers voice from the black box. But you must not listen to it …)

    Mr. Property has a split brain: political and economic hemisphere aren’t integrated. Bad legacy code from the Whig split, the old, deep cut from the French revolution. So, let’s install Corpus Callosum 2.0: the Cathedral bridging complex. Democracy and Propriety to will save you, Mr. Property. All is well …

    It isn’t. ‘It has gone cancerous and grown all over my brain’, screams poor Mr. Property.

    Dr. Moldbug notices the split and presents a solution: full lobotomy of the political*. It’ll compile, just like Urbit. But, will it work ?

    It doesn’t. Post-mortem reveals that cancerous growth had a purpose. It covered up scars and terrible memories from the last world war, when the Liberalism became a bootloader for fascism and fascism started to construct itself from liberal resources **, threatening to take over body of Mr. Property. Mr. Propery wanted harsh liberalism, wanted Gnon. It got Gnon.

    * In any case, lobotomy of the political is exactly what the Cathedral is doing already. It’s just doing it as respectable, licenced practice, by scalpel under anesthesia. In contrast, neoreaction is fiction, a horror story involving a rusty knife from grandpa’s grave.

    ** You read this blog, don’t you ?

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    Krietzsche Reply:

    tl;dr Liberalism is bootloader for fascism. Read this blog for QED.

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    Apatheos Reply:

    Chinese colonization project part of a critique of political insiders’ shared principles? I can see it against “working together”. Making knowledge access the problem, assumptions of valuations and order.

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    holipopiloh Reply:

    Yes and no. Yes, the Left is not a vector Disorder, and the Right is not a vector for Eudaimonia. No, the Cathedral is Leftist: it is a den of liberals, a rabbit hutch.

    The ‘Left as Entropy’ meme is a thought trap. Don’t fall into it.

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    We shouldn’t overlook that the British Civil Service might see a glimpse of sunshine in the BREXIT Cloud…. Yes Minister explains.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE

    Do you know I can’t imagine why Yes Minister isn’t in the civics instructions in every English speaking country.

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    michael Reply:

    Id forgotten that thanks I sometimes wonder if Obama isnt actually destroying the mideast on purpose rough triangles but i know better

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Yes, Minister is really great. Fawlty Towers is a pretty good depiction of the EU, too.

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  • michael Says:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/opinion/sunday/artificial-intelligences-white-guy-problem.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&_r=1

    Admin as Ive been saying youre not going anywhere you can check in but your cant check out its fight or die

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    anonyme Reply:

    But I thought you told me not to worry because Admin’s got it covered.

    He’s going to help all of us with Cyborgization on our way to the singularity, or something, right?

    Admin wouldn’t just upload his digitized psych onto stupendously powerful brain chips and leave the rest of us stranded here in our flesh-and-blood selves, surrounded by billions of starving African migrants.

    Would he?

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    michael Reply:

    “Qu’ils mangent de la bananas” were his last words

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    holipopiloh Reply:

    Nothing to see here. It’s the old “everyone is equal therefore any evidence of inequality is evidence that white cis-gendered males are evil”.

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  • Seth Largo Says:

    What’s the likelihood of a London breaking off as its own city state?

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    michael Reply:

    about zero

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    London, like most modern cities, is not a producing hub of urban mercantile elites the way Antwerp used to be – they’re welfare-centric parasites filled with underclass subhumans and communist tyrants. They’re not viable on their own without deporting or shooting 2/3rds of their inhabitants.

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    SVErshov Reply:

    There is posibility for London to become kind of special territory, in a sense it is already. question who is going to formilise it first. for example, for few decades London served as world center for radical islam. with new mayor certanly there is some posibilities in this direction.

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    holipopiloh Reply:

    Zero.

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  • illegal Says:

    words out of my mouth on an old subject:

    This all fits into the pattern of the strong taboo against speaking about Jews at all in connection with anything negative, no matter how justified. Holocaust lore has created a potent taboo against criticizing specifically Jewish political actions. In today’s “post Holocaust” environment, Jews are to be viewed either in a uniformly positive light or as victims. This surely benefits Israel’s ongoing campaign of ethnic cleansing against the non-Jews in Palestine-Israel, not to mention their privileged status here. The fear of the smear of “anti-Semitism” is deliberately intended to diminish all legitimate protest against Zionism and its crimes. Expect to see still more Holocaust Museums, Holocaust classes in both public and private Christian schools, movies, cartoons, artifacts, etc. coming soon to a neighborhood near you!

    http://www.rense.com/general50/pro.htm

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  • SVErshov Says:

    ‘Brexit is not the disaster. The disaster is what they’re rowing from.’

    and where they’re rowing to. disasters is only what we’ve got for now, there is no alternative to it and no turn to some illusional prosperous world. they vote to have their own British disaster, insteade of been choked by EU.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    That may happen, but smaller countries tend to be less communist than larger ones, and also have less ability to inflict their retardation on others. Decentralization, at least politically, is alvvays good. At least, if nothing else, you get the commies out of your country into their personal shithole.

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    SVErshov Reply:

    absolutely, same time, there is nothing to be euphoric about, because there is same shit load of issues to deal with, and increased polarisation, what is going to contribute for further degeration and disfunction. path dependent vioĺence trap.

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  • anonyme Says:

    @

    @ R. J. Moore II

    > “I hope the Commucrats get fucking exiled to islands like Napoleon & this leftist garbage is vomited into the sea > so that Burgundy can get back to being the best part of Europe again.”

    I’ll drink to that!

    Vomit them all into the sea and I’ll celebrate by splurging on the best upper echelon Burgundy I can afford.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    No country exemplifies the destructive capacity of modernist lefty-globalist nonsense like the situation in the Beneloux region, a region that previously had been the most advanced military and economy (for size) and maintained it for centuries.

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  • Outliers (#11) Says:

    […] Frankenstein. Voter ignorance. Punditocalypse. Anti-globalism. […]

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  • jack arcalon Says:

    Wonder if Scotland and maybe London can remain in the EU, while also remaining in the UK.

    The whole island of Britain would then have to remain in the Schengen zone for the purpose of international travel and tourism, while abolishing freedom of migration.

    Maybe the UK could also make the Euro legal tender alongside the pound as a sweetener, using electronic payment processors so currency fluctuations could be ameliorated.
    Paying in Euros would be a few percent more expensive than in pounds due to transaction costs.

    Would be some support for this, due to the close vote and the voters regrets.

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  • Dick Wagner Says:

    The recent vote reminds me of what Nietzsche said of the philosophy of Schopenhauer, that it is merely a popular prejudice exaggerated. And we all thought Neoreaction was untimely. All aboard for the Neo-Gleichheit movement!

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