Quote note (#267)

Back to basics:

Are there countries with low average scores that tear up the technological track? Mostly not – generally, fairly high average IQ seems to be a prerequisite for creativity in science and mathematics. Necessary, although not sufficient: bad choices (Communism), having the world kick you in the crotch (Mongols), or toxic intellectual fads can all make smart peoples unproductive. […] The exceptions, such as they are, seem to be a result of strong population substructure. India has a low average IQ, but there are distinct subpopulations (castes) that apparently have much higher IQ – although I’d love to see some decent studies on this. With numbers. …

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July 11, 2016admin 14 Comments »
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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    high average IQ seems to be a prerequisite for creativity in science and mathematics

    Oh noes, life is racist and worst, classist.

    We should all just die now to maintain our purity of ideological intent.

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  • wu-wei Says:

    A society which organizes itself in such a fashion, through which its low-IQ population is essentially relegated into a caste of destructive anti-social thugs and parasites, is itself a society which is probably too stupid to deserve the benefit of survival. Ironically, it’s always the high-IQ subset of the population which does the actual organizing.

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    Brett Stevens Reply:

    which its low-IQ population is essentially relegated into a caste of destructive anti-social thugs and parasites, is itself a society which is probably too stupid to deserve the benefit of survival

    Could you explain more? It seems to me the low-IQ tend to be destructive anti-social thugs and parasites, and formalizing that by putting them in a low-end caste makes sense. The West once did the same thing.

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    wu-wei Reply:

    >formalizing that by putting them in a low-end caste makes sense.

    That’s exactly what I mean to imply should be done. The difference is between a society which productively organizes its low-IQ population into a pro-social working caste as you suggest; versus a society which pretends to treat them as equals, pretends to give them equal “civil rights”, and otherwise destroys them utterly through welfare-culture and subsidized decadence. Obviously, the west has generally chosen the latter, to varying degrees.

    There’s no reason low-IQ populations can’t be productive, pro-social and useful. There’s always a need for landscaping, and one can never have too many ditches being dug. They just need to be formalized and recognized as they truly are, and not what we pretend them to be. Further, they must be aggressively and proactively organized as such by the high-IQ elite population, which is always the caste which organizes society regardless, even if it pretends it does not.

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    michael Reply:

    yes but if they are not of the stock of the nation and their IQ is too high or too low problems arise
    for one their genetics become compartmentalized and outer politics ensue solutions specific to their genotype are taboo as is even noticing
    with in stock low IQ its ttraits rise with the entire population and social trust and bonds ameliorate possible class frictions. The truck driver is ok with having at least paid for the education of his nurse daughter and dr grandchild

    Brett Stevens Reply:

    versus a society which pretends to treat them as equals, pretends to give them equal “civil rights”

    Well-stated. Thank you for clarifying.

    There’s no reason low-IQ populations can’t be productive, pro-social and useful.

    Given a hierarchy that puts the best on top, the rest can reduce the scope of their decision-making to the area where they can do well, and work together to encourage the health of civilization.

    michael Reply:

    No bret you cant have a high IQ productive class without a full range rapoulation and civilization that supports it. Its not that you didnt build that but sort of is. I threw up a little as i wrote that but my point certainly isnt obamas. mine is that 60% of new high IQs come from common stock every year. While this isnt the stablest high IQ stock it soon becomes so as it marries into higher mean stock. Bringing with it fresh blood.
    But its not just that without that huge base population that supplies geographical occupation of territory a military a culture that supports national defense and social cohesion the entire infrastructure transport police courts to say little of the market itself you cant sell your brilliant gadgets that you made.You cant even go out of your house at night. Civilization begins with violence nerds can not transcend that reality.
    But its really beyond that a mixed population of co ethnics is a pleasant place to live its enriching. Shakespeare wrote for the masses whats happened is elites have failed to cultivate the masses and themselves todays elites are illiterate morons and thats coming from a 9th grade dropout who we all know cant write.
    Its not the prole masses clamoring for socialism its coordinated elite propaganda machine the cathedral working for 100 years and still failing whining that the lower classes dont vote their pockets and so turning to mass third world immigration in a devils deal with global capitalists.now we have a lowest class who despite havonf a<85 IQ knows damn well they are going to benefit from a level playing field while the white middle knows institutionally maybe their kids have a shot.
    A fish rots from the head down, a leader takes responsibility

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    Brett Stevens Reply:

    mine is that 60% of new high IQs come from common stock every year.

    Is that so? How high is high?

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  • SVErshov Says:

    not sure if such thing as average IQ has any merits at all. in my place average IQ university graduates departing in search for better life, but people with high IQ already comming back home. Obviously it is disturbing to see increase in IQ inequality, but at least I’m happy to leave in place with eugenic trend.

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    Aristocles Invictvs Reply:

    Someone hasn’t read “Hive Mind”: http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=94BD48BDE7472261CC196D345A265008

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  • grahf Says:

    Won’t be long before that IQ map will need to be updated. See related links.

    The enstupidation of France
    In France, are secular IQ losses biologically caused? A comment on Dutton and Lynn (2015)

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  • grey enlightenment Says:

    unless of course you import IQ, which a lot of dull countries do

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  • michael Says:

    I think many countries have punched above their average IQ weight Some of the measurements miss this, concentrating on nobel prizes and such. But outside the hajinal line we find russia ireland scottland greece and rome byzantium and many others, where would we be without the three ancient empires? The Renaissance /enlightenment were an, outgrowth of those southern europeans we like to deride. Even today Italy perceived as an inbred incompetant backwater is third highest IQ, not bad being across the bay from niggerland.
    Countries like Russia and Ireland have produced great literature, riffed creatively what they have learned. The celts may actually have been the first to develop metalurgy its now thought. Some of these countries have nurtured or reignited civilization.Russia does good science and math chess literature.Many have exported some great minds to other nations that get credit.. I think jay man has a map where the actual genetics of the people in Human Achievement were born, which widens the circle quite a bit.
    I think there will be a first mover advantage, it might be unfair to not understand once certain key discoveries were made which might have been only coincidence that they would set off a chain reaction which would naturally happen locally. Also it may be its not so much avg IQ as other social conditions that were a fertile bed for creativity or were able to squeeze a few percent more IQ out of similar genes.
    And its pretty clear what we think has has helped some of these great achievement zones is now threatening them, faggotry seems to go hand in hand with nerditry and back breeding into more manly european stock may be the answer or at least following their instincts for survival for a while.
    I think this benchmark of euro achievement should be thought of as the potential of european minds generally not of hajinal minds specifically, when you look at non hajinal achievement in places like america with different nutrition culture its not so clear once conditions equalize.etc. Where would euro achievent be if not for guys like Vlad the impaler

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    Brett Stevens Reply:

    I tell you what trumps it all:

    “Wir sind wir”

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