Quote note (#299)

Jim Goad on original racial sin:

According to the modern moral framework as it’s dictated to us by academia’s huddled rodents, the worst possible thing anyone can be is a racist. We are also increasingly lectured that all white people are racist — so racist, they don’t even realize it, even when they’re trying their best not to be racist. Therefore, it’s not a giant leap to assume that under the current moral Reich, the worst possible thing anyone can be is a white person. …

Eventually, under this fanatic onslaught, even a population peculiarly predisposed to self-flagellation cracks. Drastic corrections aren’t typically pretty.

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  • Artxell Knaphni Says:

    “Racist is a code word for anti-white”, if, & only if, the ‘white’ concerned, is actually racist.
    The rest of the so called ‘Social Justice Warrior’ culture wars & ‘Political Correctness’ stuff, that Neoreaction whines about, is just that so-called ‘White’ culture warring with itself, using ethnic others as a pretext. It doesn’t actually change anything, it’s only a smokescreen.
    That smokescreen covers over the vapid mess & hypocrisy of the Social.
    The ‘right wing racists’, such as Neoreaction, are desperate because their ongoing hypocrisy, that never went away, is not so well hidden in the age of internet broadcasting. That’s why they twist everything; they resent being called out on their deceptions.

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    admin Reply:

    Goad: “Modern white people are in thrall to a massive collective guilt complex the likes of which the world may have never known. I’d be fascinated to see historical precedents of entire populations being brainwashed into self-hatred merely for being more successful and technologically advanced than other groups.”
    I’d like to see this BS end before the Chinese are pressured to adopt it. It’s a European psychosis, so Europeans have the responsibility to shut it down. (Yes, yes, Jews too.) It’s the greatest episode of cultural pollution the world has ever known.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It´s an institution akin to War, Violence & Christianity. Population psychosis. Mass hallucination. Grand possession. A grand force of dissolution. Biblical. Terrifying. Tortuous. Torturous. Tectonic. Antiteutonic. In a word, antiracism.

    The scourge of mankind.

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    admin Reply:

    The fact that there are people who can look at this stuff without absolute nausea is the best argument for species disintegration that exists.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Quite so.

    scientism Reply:

    If the following articles are right, China’s demographic crisis has been severely underestimated (TFR stats have been hugely inflated; they’re in a worse state than even Singapore), and China is facing a quite separate existential threat:

    http://english.caixin.com/2015-08-11/100838459.html

    http://english.caixin.com/2016-11-03/101003746.html

    70s population doomsaying, another Western export, might’ve already doomed China.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    The collapse of the Chinese state and its finances would be a good thing. Their existing managerial kleptocracy is purely parasitic.

    michael Reply:

    fuck the gooks cuck

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    Wagner Reply:

    If they’re not contaminated by Cathedralism that may be the only viable ark of non-savage values that can escape the deluge. My two Chinese professors were quite blue-pilled though. One, a neo-Confucian, read anti-sexism, equality, and democracy into Confucius becoming famous thereby and the other is an always-already Rawlsian who nonetheless displayed moments of stunning penetration into teh system. Just knows how to keep his mouth shut because he has a family and needs his job. I like to think many philosophy professors are like this–but who could know? My own impression of the Shanghainese after spending 6 weeks around them was

    “Only the white races endowed with creativity, he reflected… These people are not exactly human. They don the dress but they’re like monkeys dolled up in the circus. They’re clever and can learn, but that is all.” (PKD)

    michael Reply:

    @ wagner
    theyre communists and were arguing whether theyre infected? And what kind of HBDist believes another race is going to give you safe haven? when the idaho farm boys who man the nuclear subs in the china sea are all trannys dikes and apes Nick land will be shown the door, it is currently in their interest to act nice.Unfortunately nick land is not acting

    Wagner Reply:

    From what I gathered they’re going through a death of god there too. Most people I asked their opinion of Mao and they’d say “Mao is the greatest man that ever lived!” but there was also a general sense that they knew Communism failed. That’s farther along than the West, we are so steeped in communism only a few of us are aware of what it is let alone that it’s inconducive to macro-scale flourishment. On the other hand, the alt-right could be a parallel phenomenon in that it is this kind of cultural awareness that communism is bunk. Admin refuses to see anything positive in the alt-right, but it could be a glimmer of hope. What it needs is wise rulers. If more guys from NRx with stratospheric IQs decided to get their hands dirty and take control of the memes of production the alt-right could be forged into a less vulgar movement. Moldbug was an expert on the past not the future.

    Wagner Reply:

    “we are so steeped in communism only a few of us are aware of what it is”

    To clarify:

    “If you haven’t heard a progressive deny that there is any such thing as progressivism, you’ve never talked to one.” (MM)

    michael Reply:

    @ Wagner
    Communism capital c all right im exaggerating no ones very communistic they figured out parasitic socialism and consumer mind control works better, chinas maybe figuring out what cathedral mistakes not to make but is still emulating think they added almost 4 trillion in debt last year alone. frankly i think you might as wel exit to afrika without the USA to steal ideas from and then sell them back junk version they are shit. so no white race no human race.
    never met a progressive or a liberal every time i think i found one they inform me theyre an independent

    admin Reply:

    2016-tier quality commentary.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    >COINTELPRO (a portmanteau derived from COunter INTELligence PROgram) was a series of covert, and at times illegal,[1][2] projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting and disrupting domestic political organizations.[3]

    FBI records show that COINTELPRO resources targeted groups and individuals that the FBI deemed subversive,[4] including anti-Vietnam War organizers, activists of the Civil Rights Movement or Black Power movement (e.g., Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Black Panther Party), feminist organizations, anti-colonial movements (such as Puerto Rican independence groups like the Young Lords), and a variety of organizations that were part of the broader New Left.

    FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover issued directives governing COINTELPRO, ordering FBI agents to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, neutralize or otherwise eliminate” the activities of these movements and especially their leaders.[5][6]

    Unknown128 Reply:

    Suposedly the Green Taiwanese government has allready used similar ideology and declared the Chinese guilty of subjugating and genociding some native savages that were living there before Han colonisation.

    On Japanese universities similar ideology is also thaught. Thats why their government cracks down on social sciense now.

    Concidering how the Han used to treat the native population of the south of China and the brutality of the Qing empire in its conquest of the stepp and desert lands of the west or the Mings brutal campagins in Vietnam or Korea that acording to Ming chronists killed several milions as well as frequent interchinese rebellions and civil wars that propably killed more then all European colonialism put togather Id say there is room for similar guilt culture to rise.

    Thing is the brutality of non whites is usualy similar to that of whites if not greater (if controlled for power levels), while their achievements and the number of lives saved by them is most likly not even 5% that of the west.

    The white man might have killed millions, but he saved billions, often motivated by sheer altruism. The “POC” killed millions but saved just about noone.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    You’re underrating China and Persia a lot here, though I’m not denying that the last four centuries have been a curbstomp victory for Europeans. I think that without Christianity and its secular liberal descendants no large population is likely to adopt European totalitarian humanism. If it became popular in China to denounce their Han imperial history the likely result would be dissolution of the unified state.
    The Taiwanese and other appeals to muhColonialism is directed at Western elites and their proxies more than natives.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    “I’d like to see this BS end before the Chinese are pressured to adopt it. It’s a European psychosis, so Europeans have the responsibility to shut it down. (Yes, yes, Jews too.) It’s the greatest episode of cultural pollution the world has ever known.”

    This is what puts you in the no man’s land where neither liberals nor the alt-right tread. On the one hand it’s unthinkably racist and evil; on the other hand it’s read as crypto-Marxist by those whose white identity politics are mutilates by it.

    Nevertheless, it is the case. And is it really so difficult to grasp?

    Cue meme that says something like, “How INTJ are you?” “Pretty INTJ, my dude.” “You are like a little baby — watch this.”

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    The AltRightards tendency to blame shit that’s clearly of Christian and European origin (like political liberalism and SJWs) on Jews had caused me to no longer pay attention to anything they say. To use their lingo, they’re all narrative – the have no interest in the may details of history and science.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Much truth here. Culture of critique & culture of complaint.

    Might be some hidden use tho.

    (Altreich=/=Altright.)

    Unknown128 Reply:

    R. J. Moore II

    The reasons achievements of the Persians and Chinese seem inmportant is because during a drought every drop of water seems important. All their achievements made between 800 and 1500 AD are compareble with what Europeans spat out every decade or so after 1700 AD. There were drops of water and then a Tsunami came https://65.media.tumblr.com/06ccad39b2840236ace1def4b70c8b3b/tumblr_mk16hgpMqp1s87hito5_r2_1280.jpg

    Unknown128 Reply:

    Also http://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/distribution-of-significant-figures-human-accomplishment.jpg

    The scientific revolution was mostly a change in mentality and atitude towards the new and its systematic exploration. Had the Persians or Chinese developed nothing at all between 800 and 1500 AD all their developments would have been achieved by the europeans in a few years once the scientific revolution had started.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    what a coincidence, i open up Faceberg, and this is the first video: it engages the same point as you.

    Then it mocks that point by showing a picture of Obama! Hugo Chavez! and the Pyramids as counter-“evidence” against that whites invented the majority of inventions.

    It actually starts out well, but this is amazing. Egyptian royalty was white btw, I first learned of that in a mainstream documentary in which a famous negro actor himself narrated and said that they had red beards. I have a red beard.

    https://www.facebook.com/fusionmedianetwork/videos/1631996516826320/

    Devcarrier Reply:

    Remember to use silence at work if you’re unsure:
    https://youtu.be/ZPDpcYEdiOg

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    https://www.facebook.com/lenadunham/videos/1820332834914186/

    Lena Dunham brings us the news.

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    Chris P. Michael Reply:

    I thought admin was INTP…

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    he probably is.

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    Axel Mckibbin Reply:

    He once listed himself as INTJ on twitter. Same as me.

    I am immune to this white guilt stuff. I grew up in a non-christian household and “guilt” as a deontological imperative never reached me.

    Cryptogenic Reply:

    http://www.xenosystems.net/intj/

    The J is crucial.

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    Aristocles Invictvs Reply:

    White or (((White)))

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    are you saying i´m a jew?

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  • darkreformation101 Says:

    Goad: “Modern white people are in thrall to a massive collective guilt complex the likes of which the world may have never known. I’d be fascinated to see historical precedents of entire populations being brainwashed into self-hatred merely for being more successful and technologically advanced than other groups.”

    A Note On Nonsense.

    Is this really true however? Do people really feel guilty? Who is it that feels guilty? Or, rather, who is it that promotes the narrative of guilt?

    Does guilt not imply emotion? The feeling of remorse, and the judgement that one was responsible? So, who feels remorse for XYZ?

    The other hypothesis is that this “white guilt” meme is simply a tactic of power. A ideological veneer for power. The BDH narrative.

    I used to believe in free will (for incoherent emotional reasons). A girl at university challenged me with her determinism. Slowly, over the years, as I studied the issue, what did not make sense to me was the concept of moral responsibility (which justifes guilt, shame and retribution and which depends on free will).

    One day, I read Bruce Waller’s Against Moral Responsibility and I ended up rejecting both free will and moral responsibility.

    I reject MR and FW because it’s A: Incoherent B: Empirically refuted. (A is sufficient.)

    However, we can ask what practical consequences follow.

    One practical consequence is rejecting any appeal to guilt to con people. Out! Out! Out!

    So, if someone says to me “white people did XYZ in ABC” my reply is “so what”. If they persist, I ask them to explain and justify the concept of free will and moral responsibility. I can guarantee, it will not go well for them.

    Over the years, I purposefully avoided reading Nietzsche. I feared that I would end up agreeing with him. Nevethless, I do make brief visits. Nietzsche, alas, concurs. Free will is nonsense.

    Nietzsche, also scourged slave-morality, and FW and MR are intrinsic slave morality devices.

    I suggest that reactionaries purge these concepts from their web of beliefs. There are many benefits, and I only mentioned one here.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    most people misunderstand the concept of free will. even at the peaks of academia they do.

    the idea is not (properly) that there´s an absolutely free will, any more than you have absolutely free movement.

    it simply means that you have choices or desires you can follow, or not, like you are not absolutely free to take any direction at any time, but are typically relatively free to move.

    most material on this, at least Wikipedia and the like, I´m sure, is written by absolute mid-wits.

    are we to say now that because you are not absolutely free to move, that there is no free movement?

    i think people misunderstand even the idea of ‘free’ by now.

    sensus communis, thou art lost.

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    Anonymous Reply:

    Freedom, like probability, is ultimately ignorance of the future.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    it used to mean that you´re not literally enslaved by a slave holder.

    it´s been mumbo-jumboed out of proportion, like many things in modernity.

    nobody is gonna convince me that a drunk on the street who cannot control his daily affairs has as much an amount of free will as me.

    it´s a spectrum. it´s a talent. it can be trained. is what it refers to. i can train myself to have more freedom in responses to people. it means i have more choices and lesser restriction. it isn´t hocus pocus.

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    No, free will its just nonsense and incoherent rationalizations that had no useful definition. What you’ve described is closest to intentionality, ie that people are purposive actors. This has nothing to do with ‘freedom’ of any kind, as Austrian economics can tell you an individual’s choices are determined by his scale of values and the expected magical utility. Nothing about this in any way deviates from strict logical and mechanical determinism.
    Just stop using the term “free will”, it hasn’t been misunderstood, it’s useless crap and theological gobbledygook. Your idiosyncratic rationalization of the term is not the ‘correct’ one, it’s something you’ve cooked up to justify continuing to use a term that is totally meaningless.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    >”This has nothing to do with ‘freedom’ of any kind”

    smh

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    call it “determined will”, next you´ll have to eliminate choice

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    michael Reply:

    I looked up that crap heres what I left on the website course im just a plumber

    people who know they cant swim should make it a firm rule not to enter deep water.the water doesn’t care to know your swimming ability. a society that rewards the stupid and hold the intelligent to harsher standards is dysgenic and will perish.check your premises; that punishment should be based on fairness,responsibility, yad yada gay shit etc.
    Civilizations have rules which we dress up as morals for only one reason survival, you’re weaving a lattice of circular secondary rules and ignoring the first cause. Survival
    -and BTW racism is not something to be punished for its the prime directive

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    John Hannon Reply:

    “… ‘the doer’ is merely a fiction added to the deed – the deed is everything.”

    – Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals

    “Things happen as they happen. Blame or praise are apportioned later, after the sense of doership appears.”

    “… to say ‘I do’ is altogether false, because there is nobody who does; all happens by itself, including the idea of being a doer.”

    – Nisargadatta Maharaj

    “Everything happens spontaneously. On a biological level the concept of a doer arises after something has already occurred. The doer ‘I’ arises after the experience has already taken place.”

    – Stephen Wolinsky

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaVHRRxUpog

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    a_not_so_polite_plea Reply:

    Start typing like michael please, that way it’d be easier to ignore your drivel. Spotting lunatics is easier when they write the part.

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    John Hannon Reply:

    “Start typing like michael please”

    Not necessary. You’ve only got to check my name to know there’s likely to be some stoned drivel ahead.

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  • Brett Stevens Says:

    It’s a subset of the liberal equality argument: when equality is needed, the only bad guys are the competent, wealthy, beautiful or successful, because they are above equal.

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    smg Reply:

    Frequently Jews push white privilege most aggressively, particularly in academia.

    The right response to this is always, “Jews are 2% of the US population but 25% of Harvard and 35% of SCOTUS. It’s time to talk about Jew Privilege.”

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I’m more interested in burning the universities and sending professors to gulags. I don’t care what proportion of them are Yids.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    >”burning the universities and sending professors to gulags”

    How would that happen?

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  • K.L.Anderson Says:

    In every human culture ever honestly studied, real human nature included kin-selection preferences, incest taboos, marriage, hierarchy, division of labor, gender differentiation, and localism, with ethnocentrism as the main unit of successful selection. If a culture proposes to not include these things, the culture does not last long and always returns to these things.

    It is not ethnocentrism that is primitive, barbaric and uncivilized, unless you define real human nature as primitive, barbaric and uncivilized (and some do). The social problems come when one ethnocentric group calls another ethnocentric group “evil” because they are ethnocentric. Undoing this primitive and unsophisticated behavior, which seems unaffected by objective reasoning, is the next stage in civilizing the beast.

    This naturally leads to an ethnopluralism of ethnostates and regions, which can be established legally in the United States due to our constitutional separation of powers and states. It may require a few constitutional amendments to give more power to the states. It will of course not be easy, but it is far preferable to radically destructive civil disruptions, or even civil war, which come naturally with increasing competition between ethnic groups within unworkable multi-ethnic societies.

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  • darkreformation101 Says:

    @GE

    I have no problem with your description. Bee would be better to call it voluntary behaviour. Free will, in its libertarian sense, is what underpins moral responsibility, and it is that type of free will that can and must be rejected.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    right.
    i agree that not all have equally free will.

    watch out for the egalitarianism that rides in through the trojan horse “we´re all equally without free will.” just as much as the trojan horse of “we´re all equally free willed.”

    people are not equally willed, and neither are animals.

    there´s always the great chain of being.

    with the currents of involution

    at the lower rung

    swept

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    catagenesis

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    the woman is the nigger of the world

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  • Lesser Bull Says:

    The telos of whiteness studies is to create what it fears.

    If you stare into what you think is the abyss long enough, eventually it becomes the abyss.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    It´s the same with people who obsess over the inhumanity of other races.

    “Whites are naught but trouble-makers.”

    “Jews are naught but trouble-makers.”

    “Blacks are naught but trouble-makers.”

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  • michael Says:

    They dont simply preach white privilege they back it up with cradle to grave reeducation it all lies but judging by how many intelligent people fall for it I suppose its pretty effective lying.Overtly identifying whites as inherently evil is probably going to be an overreach even marxists like nick land and jews like curtis yarvin became offended, awakening whites to their whiteness was strategic mistake. the old tactic of using secularized legacy Christian values to instill sympathy was much better.But as the decades of squandered reparations and renovations pilled up the eternal sunshine of 69 became difficult to maintain meantime the low IQ had entered the elites and thinking moves ahead became uncontrolled.So they are making a mad dash for the finish line with the camp of saints, they know within a few years its irreversible whites will be doomed to extinction.

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  • Melanie L'Heuremaudit Says:

    “Our French Republic is no more than a great gullet swallowing the negroizing of the French at the command of the Jews. Our governors are a clique of sadistic yids and yellow-bellied masons sworn to swallow us up, to bastardize us further, to boil us down by all the grotesque, primitive means of inter-mixture, part negro, part yellow, part white, part red, part monkey, part Jewish, part everything.

    “To be or not to be” Aryan? That is the question! And nothing more!

    All the doctrines concerning the absence of Race, concerning the vast racial confusion, all the spreading of racial jumbling at full pace, the esperanto-ism of the anus “Romain Rolland style,” resulting in the greatest fornicating Babel are no more than destructive foul tricks, all emerging from the same Talmudic shop: “To the destruction of the Whites.”

    Louis-Ferdinand Céline

    L’Ecole des cadavres (1938)

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    this is the understanding that few have: that race is also something you have or—as he says, in « the absence of Race »—do not have.

    anyone confused?

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