Quote note (#303)

Trump is unintelligible, in an interesting way:

[President Elect Donald J. Trump is] tapping into a broad resistance to contemporary moral beliefs, beliefs that have become increasingly institutionalised over the past fifty years. […] The problem is that these are precisely the beliefs that are held above inquiry in the social sciences.

Not just a political crisis, then, but an epistmeological crisis (precisely because it will be so difficult for the dominant social organs of knowledge to accept the fact).

November 14, 2016admin 29 Comments »
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  • SVErshov Says:

    disaster is nemesis of stupidity

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    Posted on November 14th, 2016 at 4:01 pm Reply | Quote
  • G. Eiríksson Says:

    https://vid.me/nClF

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    Chris P. Michael Reply:

    00:50 uses admin’s favorite picture

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    Wagner Reply:

    This is stir up the passions of the demos tier propaganda. NB: http://68.media.tumblr.com/0bb6d3235fc631cf8a467e9595d9ef5e/tumblr_obx3umxZ1S1rjwablo1_500.png

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    Posted on November 14th, 2016 at 5:09 pm Reply | Quote
  • Mariani Says:

    “Above inquiry” is probably the best way to put it

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    Posted on November 14th, 2016 at 10:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • Eldrick Says:

    So basically, Inquisition, Reformation or Kek is birthed into the world.

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    Xoth Reply:

    Kek is the dark herald of Gnon.

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    Posted on November 15th, 2016 at 12:07 am Reply | Quote
  • R. J. Moore II Says:

    Trump’s positions are the Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle in politics. Contrary to what the AltRight and Scott Sumner ( http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2016/11/hitler-bothers-me-as-much-as-a-3-second-violation.html ) project onto Trump, I believe that Keith Preston is correct in assessing Trump as the most leftist and even post-identarian candidate. Something NRx has misjudged its the degree to which the Establishment is leftist – is not, it’s Puritanical. The ultra-left area not moral prigs or institutional elites but the Black Panthers, Sovereign Citizens and Communists who oppose stop-and-frisk because they want to fight a civil war. Contrary to NRx and Establishment assessments, the gun nuts who shoot at cops for speeding tickets are not ‘right wing extremists’ but ultra-individualists and anti-authoritarians just this side of Max Stirner. In taking up national sovereignty, fair treatment for the shrinking plurality of whites, State’s Rights candidates and anti-war Trump is the most liberal candidate in decades. As little respect as I have for democracy, this is fat preferable to the neoliberal imperialist model of Clinton, which is more right-wing and moralizing on every level.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Leviathan was not co-opted by the left – the left was the neutered by Leviathan.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    That´s what Kojéve was saying in the 50´s. He said that Ford was the greatest Marxist, and that the worker had it better in Capitalist America. Later the Jap guy Fukushima or w.e. said that´s the end of history.

    No nigger is never wrong, the question is which degree of right.

    But the Left now stands for bad accounting.

    And over-sensitized morals.

    Sensus communis

    is done.

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    Funny, after inserting this comment here, I open up Youtube.com and this video is suggested: Death of Social Justice Special.
    https://youtu.be/Q8TE_QMa3fw

    » The death of social justice culture. The Left is routed. We have won. »

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    That use of the term left is not really useful – first of all, the real left still exists in pockets, and in hordes outside of the West. Secondly, it leads to change conflating the Viper Militia and Fascists as both ‘right wing’, which can’t possibly be right. I think the analytically useful (as opposed to rhetorical) right and left divide is between elites of various kinds and egalitarianism, and the states rights types and Christian Reconstructionists are both on the left compared to the institutionalized bigots of academia and genuine monarchists. As Moldbug well knew, Presbyterianism is a flea’s hair away from outright AntiClericalism and Jacobin Republicans.
    The popular usage of these terms is useless, and meaningless, and should be ignored. It’s what Rand would call an anti-concept. The analytical use has to do with anti-oligarchic and egalitarian sentiments on the left versus anyone who has something to lose, from Zuckerberg to aristocracy, depending on the situation.
    I have no belief in metaphysical or physical equality, and I admit that many of the criticisms of Kuehnelt-Leddihn and de Maistre are not unfoubded; but when it comes down to it I have more in common with the Nation of Islam and the Shining Path than I do with Elon Musk or the Prince of Nepal. Even standard issue NRx microstates are hard to qualitatively differentiate from Anarcho-Syndicalism. Remember, Fascism started as a Posse movement of anti- establishment community safety committees and all its art is cribbed from Wobblies.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    As a student of the Soviet Union, the concept of a real left vs. the diversity of lefts now is confusing.

    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    ▬>>I have more in common with the Nation of Islam and the Shining Path than I do with Elon Musk

    nigga, what are you on about?

    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    The Nation of Islam are secessionists, segregationists, anti-police, anti-imperialism, and in favor of direct action and self defense. They’re also not fond of Yids, which is at least tactically positive.
    Shining Path, while absurdly violent, were also opposed to every tenet of NeoLiberalism and were willing to shoot government agents over it.
    But Republicans? Republicans are fucking useless twats. Worse than useless.
    I much prefer Farrakhan to McCain.
    And the Soviet state was not leftist, though some of its originators and dissenters were.

    Posted on November 15th, 2016 at 9:35 am Reply | Quote
  • S.C. Hickman Says:

    Watching the meltdown of the democrat elite is like watching Platus played by H.P. Lovecraft in ‘Truculentus’; an affair of prostitutes and politicians, without plot or telos.

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  • vxxc2014 Says:

    Right now Trump’s enemies and frenemies are very comfortable.

    They were upset but now they’re comfortable….the Left isn’t but they never are…congenital.

    Trump’s real enemies are Established.

    Remember that Trump’s mentor was Roy Cohn.

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  • Melanie L'Heuremaudit Says:

    Federal Spy Guy @FederalSpyGuy

    Podesta told Hillary she had to address her followers
    she (drunk as a skunk) (allegedly) said: “fuck them – you do it”

    FUCK THEM – YOU DO IT!

    #NoFlyZone #DraftOurDaughters #NuclearWarWithRussia

    http://www.northcrane.com/2016/11/15/cnn-reporter-states-hillary-became-physically-violent-towards-john-podesta-at-midnight-had-to-be-restrained/

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    @Melanie L’Heuremaudit An interesting question is whether this is the truth, or if the Establishment has just decided to throw Clinton under the bus as she’s becoming a liability. Of course, both could be true.

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    Xoth Reply:

    Among her many virtues, Hillary has such a stable temperament; too bad she lost.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    She’s entrenched disease and only represents stable progress of the pathology. Better for the Empire to destroy itself than persist. She already lost and I still hope she dies, subhuman cunt.

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    Posted on November 15th, 2016 at 6:51 pm Reply | Quote
  • Melanie L'Heuremaudit Says:

    @ R.J. Moore II

    Unless someone produces an audio recording, there’s probably no way to be sure

    “In a world that has REALLY been turned on its head, truth is a moment of falsehood. ” (Guy Debord)

    (and yeah, yeah, I know, all you reformists out there, I’m quoting a Marxist on an NRx blog)

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  • R. J. Moore II Says:

    @ R.J. Moore II
    Unless someone produces an audio recording, there’s probably no way to be sure
    “In a world that has REALLY been turned on its head, truth is a moment of falsehood. ” (Guy Debord)
    (and yeah, yeah, I know, all you reformists out there, I’m quoting a Marxist on an NRx blog)
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    I am not a communist, but Marxists are better social theorists and economists than Neoliberals are. The same is true of reactionaries. I don’t really buy into the reductionistic analysis of the right and left that NRx seems to take for granted, it looks too much like religious narrative to me. The real world is insanely complicated.
    Karl Marx used to complain about social democrat intervention in the economy because it just made things less efficient and became a tool by which plutocracy could avoid confrontation with the masses. I don’t know any informed libertarian who would disagree.

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    Xoth Reply:

    You should be more of a Hayek man in that case. Marx is for the lolz.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    Hayek is a reformist and his epistemic and legal theories are largely garbage. I vastly prefer Mises.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    His explanation of economic calculation as a knowledge problem is just wrong. Fuck Hayek.

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    Posted on November 15th, 2016 at 9:50 pm Reply | Quote
  • Melanie L'Heuremaudit Says:

    @ R.J. Moore II

    Today I was searching for a comment you made in the last few weeks where you mentioned burning the Universities and sending all the professors to Gulags.

    When I read it, my first thought was, after all the damage these professors have done, why not just execute them instead? But after reconsidering, I decided a Gulag isn’t such a bad idea after all. Make them work 12 – 14 hours a day, every day, and feed them one watery bowl of soup per day with a few grains of rice thrown in.

    This reminded me of one of the mottos of the Khmer Rouge in reference to the New People (usually urban civilians):

    “To keep you is no benefit. To destroy you is no loss”

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    G. Eiríksson Reply:

    ▬ And since the modern view of life in its materialism has taken away from the single individual any possibility of bestowing on his destiny a transfiguring element and seeing in it a sign and a symbol, contemporary “slavery” should therefore be reckoned as one of the gloomiest and most desperate kinds of all times. It is not a surprise that in the masses of modern slaves the obscure forces of world subversion have found an easy, obtuse instrument to pursue their goals; while in the places where it has already triumphed, the vast Stalinist “work camps” testify to how the physical and moral subjection of man to the goals of collectivization and of the uprooting of every value of the personality is employed in a methodical and even satanic way.

    ▬▬▬ G. Evola, 1934.

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    R. J. Moore II Reply:

    I am all for libertarian revanchism. I’d throw American soldiers in Guamtanumo.

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    Posted on November 16th, 2016 at 6:01 am Reply | Quote

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