Quote note (#327)

Urbit perspective on the Chinese century:

The closest thing to a general-purpose personal server today is probably the Chinese service WeChat. If you don’t know much about WeChat, you should really watch this NYT video.

Catch-up would be sensible. (Abandoning the bizarre Western prejudice that the Internet is primarily for political expression would be a start.)

Pointed criticism follows. If Urbit delivers, we could actually see some geographically-distributed competition, which is otherwise looking increasingly unlikely. 2017 should tell, apparently.

February 3, 2017admin 15 Comments »


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  • cyborg_nomade Says:

    I heard Yarvin is tending to a more Federalist stance lately. maybe he’s been reading you


    NatashaRostova Reply:

    Where did you hear this?


    cyborg_nomade Reply:

    CCRU group on Facebook


    Posted on February 3rd, 2017 at 7:53 pm Reply | Quote
  • Cryptogenic Says:

    OT: Did anyone notice the cap worn by the macing victim at Berkeley? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwzffeICkP8



    Posted on February 3rd, 2017 at 8:28 pm Reply | Quote
  • Kwisatz Haderach Says:

    Sandstorm.io is trying to be a similar thing as well.


    Posted on February 3rd, 2017 at 11:50 pm Reply | Quote
  • NatashaRostova Says:

    I’d make fun of Nick for being so interested in what Yarvin thinks that he goes to Urbit on the off chance he finds something cool; but I do the same.


    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 1:23 am Reply | Quote
  • Erebus Says:

    It’s worth pointing out that Moldbug has been very active on Scott Aaronson’s blog of late. He’s in top form, though he doesn’t succeed in reaching Aaronson, who seems to be beyond all help and reason.


    michael ryan Reply:

    (A fun question to ask yourself next time you’re reading the Economist: what, exactly, is the difference between “global leadership” and “world domination”? The mere English words sure make them sound pretty similar…)

    -Or while reading Outsidein what exactly is the difference either phrase Lands SKYNET? In know i know but theyre reactionary robots instead of cathedral robots that rule you, the fact that your lived experience is just the same is evidence you need to be enslaved.


    Wagner Reply:

    *Land on his knees in tattered rags and crypto-lock handcuffs*

    “So are you going to confess, good doctor? Or shall we put you back in the cell with 8 Jew SJWs for another two years?”



    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 2:56 am Reply | Quote
  • pangbianr Says:

    i think something about the Chinese political system & functional administration of “cyber sovereignty” allows new tech to be massively adopted in a way impossible in the West. there’s WeChat obviously, and also something like Mobike, which landed in Beijing last October or so (after a 2015 initial launch in Shanghai), and now is in 9 cities and counting. watch Baidu leapfrog Tesla/Google in getting a huge fleet of driverless cars on the road within the year. same holds on a macro infrastructure level w/ high-speed rail. (the California HSR is an ongoing clusterfuck, i expect Musk will build his Futurama hyperloop for tech commuters before it has a single functional line).. maybe Urbit will create a distributed international competitor to WeChat as platform, or maybe it’ll remain a well-funded idea that never reaches escape velocity/actual users (or if it does, will never be used outside California), like so much of this other tech.. the strongest case for CalExit is to make California competitive w/ China by cutting the rest of the pork-barreling US off…


    Posted on February 4th, 2017 at 3:06 am Reply | Quote
  • AugustusPugin Says:

    The Ether Review had a great podcast a few months ago on Urbit featuring Curtis and Galen:


    which is completely worth it for the metaphor of Eternal September being the digital version of the Fall of Rome at ~59:20


    Posted on February 5th, 2017 at 3:22 pm Reply | Quote
  • Henk Says:

    “If Urbit delivers”

    I’m stumped. What do people think… what do you think Urbit could possibly deliver?

    I’m asking because I can’t see anything desirable that Urbit could deliver. To be honest, if anybody were to ask me about Urbit, I’d tell them that Urbit is 1% irrelevant substance dissolved in 99% snake oil.

    Maybe wishful thinking explains most of the allure of Urbit. Or maybe there’s someone here who can explain what Urbit could deliver.


    tsk Reply:

    It’s a bit like Roko’s Basilisk.

    Even if it never delivers a fucking thing, nobody can ever conclusively prove that to be so. And it sounds cool. So, it can forever serve as a fapping object for people who prefer prose to code.


    AugustusPugin Reply:

    It’s just giving everybody a personal server rather than them being a client of a server run by ZuckerCorp. That’s it. It immediately kills the prog monopoly policing on places like twitter/reddit/fb. They will no longer control your data since it’s being served from your Urbit rather than from their huge data silos.


    AMK Reply:

    Thank you. I have been reading all these fucking white papers and now I finally get it. Sometimes simplicity is all you need.


    Posted on February 5th, 2017 at 3:54 pm Reply | Quote

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